BLM Tears Down 'Blue Lives Matter' billboards

[Frenline Delpha]

Yes, you can. Because see, you can choose to become a cop without approving of every little damn thing the govt does. You can say "Look, I dont want to send potheads to prison, but at the same time I want to get drug dealers off the street and protect my community." You very well can fucking say that.

One could say that. One would be a terrible hypocrite who's sold themselves out, but yes, they could say that.

Sold themselves out. Because wanting to put food on the table by doing something you love is selling out. I love how you have no concept of nuance. Not everybody is the same.

[Lady Scylla]

Honestly, the views people have of cops here are disturbing. Either they're government goons there to take your rights, racist murderers, or both. Its a miracle anyone signs up to do the job anymore. Its like one bad cop comes to paint the force at large anymore.

I wanted to join law enforcement because I wanted to contribute to my community. My neighbourhood is pretty run down, and everything from meth-labs to shoot-outs happen here. After all of this, I've since changed my mind, and not because I think cops are bad, but because I've grown afraid of all of the anti-cop people. Especially ones that seem to be promoting violence, I'd be unable to trust anybody, and probably think "is this person going to shoot me?" constantly.

[Jumalariik]

I got cut on the edge, would it be less disgusting to shoot unarmed white youths?

No, but they sure seem to do that way less in comparison. Coincidence?

But they don't though.
10 unarmed black people were killed by cops this year.
20 unarmed white people were killed by cops this year.

So, maybe you should look at facts before hating institutions that exist to protect you.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i ... s-database

[Jumalariik]

Well then you've never needed a cop. I have had my house broken into and believe me, it's nice to have cops come.
I know that cops can do bad things, but in my experience they have all been really great people trying to help. I have known also really great people who have tried to become cops but didn't meet the cut. It's not easy.

You do know that cops helping you is not an American thing only, right?
There are countries where the police don't even carry weapons, and there too they will come and arrest the crooks if they break into your house.

Just because police is necessary to fight crime doesn't excuse them from extreme and uncalled for police violence.

"The police don't even carry weapons"
Yeah. Great. I'm not saying cops are perfect. I'm just saying that if you hate cops you should expect no protection. I do wonder, out of the people who hate cops on NSG, how many have had their houses or apartments broken into?

[Aethrys]

Come back when you have an argument.

This from someone who rants about BLM all being criminals but remains silent on disparate police profiling and killing of blacks that gave rise to BLM in the first place.

I'd ask you to indicate where I said that, but I'll tell you right now that you cannot.

[Novus America]

You mean like when the Justice Department dug up that the Ferguson, MO police department being systematically racist, or the Chicago PD having its own Black Site?

1. Chicago PD has had a history of being corrupt. Its unfair to use them to paint the rest of cops.

2. I think you are forgetting that the USDoJ also found Officer Darren Wilson innocent of any wrongdoing. But thats ok, hate cops. Clearly every one of them doesn't give a hoot about their communities. No, they just want to shoot black children.

Again, its a miracle anyone wants to do that fucking job anymore.

Well it is more the Cook County Democratic Party is third world corrupt and has ruled Chicago accordingly.

[Galloism]

No, but they sure seem to do that way less in comparison. Coincidence?

But they don't though.
10 unarmed black people were killed by cops this year.
20 unarmed white people were killed by cops this year.

So, maybe you should look at facts before hating institutions that exist to protect you.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i ... s-database

Taking your number at face value, and given black people make up 12.6% of the population, that means it's roughly four times as likely to be killed if walking around unarmed while black.

[Novus America]

But they don't though.
10 unarmed black people were killed by cops this year.
20 unarmed white people were killed by cops this year.

So, maybe you should look at facts before hating institutions that exist to protect you.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-i ... s-database

Taking your number at face value, and given black people make up 12.6% of the population, that means it's roughly four times as likely to be killed if walking around unarmed while black.

However it also needs to be noted.
"ccording to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites, and the victim rate 6 times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of white victims killed by whites, and 93% of black victims killed by blacks.[38][39][40]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_an ... ted_States

And that 10 people is a tiny number. You chance of being killed unarmed is statistically tiny. You are about as likly to be killed by lightning.

[Setgavarius]

You do know that cops helping you is not an American thing only, right?
There are countries where the police don't even carry weapons, and there too they will come and arrest the crooks if they break into your house.

Just because police is necessary to fight crime doesn't excuse them from extreme and uncalled for police violence.

"The police don't even carry weapons"
Yeah. Great. I'm not saying cops are perfect. I'm just saying that if you hate cops you should expect no protection. I do wonder, out of the people who hate cops on NSG, how many have had their houses or apartments broken into?

I have had my house broken into, and I fear the cops more than I do the people around me. And who says that blue and black lives matter is a mutually exclusive thing? It shouldn't. We're all humans, aren't we?

[Gauthier]

This from someone who rants about BLM all being criminals but remains silent on disparate police profiling and killing of blacks that gave rise to BLM in the first place.

I'd ask you to indicate where I said that, but I'll tell you right now that you cannot.

Vandalism and racism are cornerstones of this group, and their base is largely comprised of the "kill all whites" sort.

[Aethrys]

I'd ask you to indicate where I said that, but I'll tell you right now that you cannot.

Vandalism and racism are cornerstones of this group, and their base is largely comprised of the "kill all whites" sort.

Right, as I said, you cannot.

Base is largely comprised. Not "All."

I'm sure there's a minority of it's supporters that don't incite attacks on cops, manufacture artificial outrage against cops even for justified shootings with clear evidence showing Law Enforcement is in the right, or celebrate when police die. However, by comparison they are very, very quiet.

[Gauthier]

Right, as I said, you cannot.

Base is largely comprised. Not "All."

I'm sure there's a minority of it's supporters that don't incite attacks on cops, manufacture artificial outrage against cops even for justified shootings with clear evidence showing Law Enforcement is in the right, or celebrate when police die. However, by comparison they are very, very quiet.

"Vandalism and racism are cornerstones of this group." That's painting every single member of the group with the same brush.

That's exactly like Trump saying "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

[Novus America]

Right, as I said, you cannot.

Base is largely comprised. Not "All."

I'm sure there's a minority of it's supporters that don't incite attacks on cops, manufacture artificial outrage against cops even for justified shootings with clear evidence showing Law Enforcement is in the right, or celebrate when police die. However, by comparison they are very, very quiet.

"Vandalism and racism are cornerstones of this group." That's painting every single member of the group with the same brush.

That's exactly like Trump saying "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Strawman again.

[MERIZoC]

One could say that. One would be a terrible hypocrite who's sold themselves out, but yes, they could say that.

Sold themselves out. Because wanting to put food on the table by doing something you love is selling out. I love how you have no concept of nuance. Not everybody is the same.

If you can prove that a significant number of police officers join because they have no other job options, go ahead.

[Novus America]

Sold themselves out. Because wanting to put food on the table by doing something you love is selling out. I love how you have no concept of nuance. Not everybody is the same.

If you can prove that a significant number of police officers join because they have no other job options, go ahead.

Irrelevant. It still feeds their family. And you do not have to agree with your employer all the the time.

[MERIZoC]

If you can prove that a significant number of police officers join because they have no other job options, go ahead.

Irrelevant. It still feeds their family. And you do not have to agree with your employer all the the time.

And you can expect judgement for that.

[Lies and Ignorance]

Considering that the yearly number of civilians killed by police has increased since 2013, and that Black Lives Matter activists have been thoroughly waylayed in the media - while the cops themselves have seen a boost in popularity, even to the tune of million-dollar donations, one would think the dogged defenders of cops had their work cut out for them. And yet, when defending the conduct of one of the most authoritarian institutions in America, pro-cop lobbyists still feel the need to paint their badge-wielding heroes as victims. It's tedious.

[Republic of Canador]

You said they live every day to perpetuate a system that oppresses those who have done nothing wrong. I'm asking a question as to why you think "the system" is inherently oppressive?

The state uses the threat of force to make sure people obey what it says. How is that not oppressive?

Oh darn. What a shame that those poor serial killers, terrorists, and drug dealers are being oppressed.

Honestly, how else is the state supposed to maintain a lawful and peaceful society without striking down on those who decide to commit serious crimes? Otherwise the criminal world would be running amuck.

[MERIZoC]

The state uses the threat of force to make sure people obey what it says. How is that not oppressive?

Oh darn. What a shame that those poor serial killers, terrorists, and drug dealers are being oppressed.

Honestly, how else is the state supposed to maintain a lawful and peaceful society without striking down on those who decide to commit serious crimes? Otherwise the criminal world would be running amuck.

The state can fuck right off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_law

[Republic of Canador]

Oh darn. What a shame that those poor serial killers, terrorists, and drug dealers are being oppressed.

Honestly, how else is the state supposed to maintain a lawful and peaceful society without striking down on those who decide to commit serious crimes? Otherwise the criminal world would be running amuck.

The state can fuck right off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_law

Which would be fine and dandy if it were actually feasible and not some hopeless fairy tale.

[Novus America]

Irrelevant. It still feeds their family. And you do not have to agree with your employer all the the time.

And you can expect judgement for that.

Why? Unless self employed you are not going to agree with your emlpyer 100%.

[MERIZoC]

The state can fuck right off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_law

Which would be fine and dandy if it were actually feasible and not some hopeless fairy tale.

I fail to see how basing a system of law off of preventing coercion and violence is a hopeless fairy tail.

[MERIZoC]

And you can expect judgement for that.

Why? Unless self employed you are not going to agree with your emlpyer 100%.

Because anyone acting as a police officer is actively carrying out an immoral and harmful agenda. If you disagree with locking up druggies, then you should fight that, not facilitate it.

[Novus America]

Why? Unless self employed you are not going to agree with your emlpyer 100%.

Because anyone acting as a police officer is actively carrying out an immoral and harmful agenda. If you disagree with locking up druggies, then you should fight that, not facilitate it.

Umm no, the police do not write drug laws and do a lot more than "locking up druggies".

[Novus America]

Which would be fine and dandy if it were actually feasible and not some hopeless fairy tale.

I fail to see how basing a system of law off of preventing coercion and violence is a hopeless fairy tail.

That is your problem. Your anarchist screeds are not the topic though.