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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:27 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I do like how the debate is if criminals who obviously committed a crime that harms people were in the right or in the wrong.

BLM are criminals? And you are a racist!

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They illegally took down a billboard. They did some illegal, i.e., a crime. They are by deffiniton criminals. I'm not saying that every member of BLM, or even most are criminals, but those involved are criminals.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 20, 2016 4:31 pm

Jumalariik wrote:I'm not saying that every member of BLM, or even most are criminals, but those involved are criminals.


Jumalariik wrote:Yes. Actually, a lot of members of Black Lives Matter are criminals.
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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:32 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I'm not saying that every member of BLM, or even most are criminals, but those involved are criminals.


Jumalariik wrote:Yes. Actually, a lot of members of Black Lives Matter are criminals.

I'm glad you agree with facts. :)
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 20, 2016 4:33 pm

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Gauthier wrote:

I'm glad you agree with facts. :)


"I'm not saying they're all criminals, but they're all criminals."
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri May 20, 2016 4:35 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I'm glad you agree with facts. :)


"I'm not saying they're all criminals, but they're all criminals."



That's not what he said, but hey you've only offered shitposts, So i guess expecting an actual honest argument is too much.

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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:37 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I'm glad you agree with facts. :)


"I'm not saying they're all criminals, but they're all criminals."

You might want to look at this:
http://www.learn-english-online.org/Lesson1/Lesson1.htm
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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Fri May 20, 2016 4:43 pm

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Welp, looks like Black Lives Matter is a criminal organization. Time to disband it, and shoot a few more black motorists for good measure. *nod*

Yes. Actually, a lot of members of Black Lives Matter are criminals.

I assume you have numbers to back that up.
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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:46 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:Yes. Actually, a lot of members of Black Lives Matter are criminals.

I assume you have numbers to back that up.

"A lot" is a subjective term.

http://www.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_29 ... lack-lives
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... a-illinois
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoli ... y-protest/
Just a few examples of BLM being criminals.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri May 20, 2016 4:49 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Rhyfelnydd wrote:I assume you have numbers to back that up.

"A lot" is a subjective term.

http://www.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_29 ... lack-lives
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... a-illinois
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoli ... y-protest/
Just a few examples of BLM being criminals.


FYI that second link is about BLM supporters being victims, not BLM committing crimes.

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Postby Destiny Island » Fri May 20, 2016 4:50 pm

Bhikkustan wrote:
54e wrote:BLM are criminals? And you are a racist!

Someone said something negative about an organisation comprised of a race! Total racist!
In other words, Jews are racists for hating the nazis.

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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:50 pm

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FYI that second link is about BLM supporters being victims, not BLM committing crimes.

Oh. Thx for the FYI, I was just doing a cursory search.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 4:52 pm

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Frenline Delpha wrote:I mean, this is Fox News we're talking about.

Ah yes. Clearly you can't trust a news source you sometimes disagree with.

It doesn't have the best reputation. And I do have some, not many, right wing views.
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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 4:53 pm

Frenline Delpha wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:Ah yes. Clearly you can't trust a news source you sometimes disagree with.

It doesn't have the best reputation. And I do have some, not many, right wing views.

Ok, so now mainstream news outlets don't count as information?
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri May 20, 2016 4:55 pm

Frenline Delpha wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:Ah yes. Clearly you can't trust a news source you sometimes disagree with.

It doesn't have the best reputation, IMHO. And I do have some, not many, right wing views.


FTFY, Fox News has about as good a reputation as any other Main Stream News outlet.

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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 4:55 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Frenline Delpha wrote:It doesn't have the best reputation. And I do have some, not many, right wing views.

Ok, so now mainstream news outlets don't count as information?

They do, but do you have any other sources? More than one, at least.
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Postby Jolet » Fri May 20, 2016 4:58 pm

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Theoretically, he shouldn't. Unfortunately, people are so willing to tie causation and correlation together. Just because there are a lot of black people in prison due to committing crimes doesn't mean that their being black caused them to commit the crime. Unfortunately a lot of people mix up correlation and causation, and that's why you have a general suspicion of black people by those in authority. It's not right, but it does make sense as to why it happens. At least, in my eyes. I'm not defending the practice, but I understand why it occurs.

Which then confirms other earlier stated points that cops have a bias towards going against black males.

And speaking of which, crack? Harsher penalties, mostly done by blacks, cops know this, cops crack down on crack, aka cops crack down in the black community, thus tearing it apart by sending thousands of young males to prison.

The law is enforced, sure, but people are hurt, not helped by it.


Pretty sure you're taking me out of context here, mate. Lemme just give you my previous post, to shed some light on what's going on here.

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I personally tie that to a crime demographic that, unfortunately, a disproportionately large amount of black people occupy. This is likely tied to a lack of education and opportunity, as well as a whole slew of environmental factors that I'm not writing here and probably not even privy to. Do I think that black people are disproportionately bad? No. Black people are people, as are white people and any other demographic you can identify. I'd be willing to bet that if the situation were reversed and it was white people in the position that much of the black population in the country is in economically, socially and in terms of education, we'd be seeing similar statistics about white crime and incarceration. Who knows, maybe we'd have a WPM group running around too. But there is a reason for the disproportionate representation, and that may be (emphasis there on the may, as I haven't done the research and I don't have numbers here to back that up) more largely represented in the crime world for whatever reason. It's the explanation I've always had for why there's a disproportionate amount of black people in prison.



Probably just missed it, but I wanted to make sure you understood where I was coming from when I made that post. If anything, it seems diametrically opposed to what you're trying to do with my statement, and I don't think we effectively communicated in that regard.

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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Fri May 20, 2016 4:58 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Rhyfelnydd wrote:I assume you have numbers to back that up.

"A lot" is a subjective term.

http://www.mercurynews.com/travel/ci_29 ... lack-lives
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... a-illinois
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoli ... y-protest/
Just a few examples of BLM being criminals.

To a point. Alot insinuates that a very large portion of an entire group is as you say. I see a few anecdotes of people affiliated with BLM doing criminal things, but I could just as easily have three links of say, high school students committing crimes and just as easily make up something like "most high school students are criminals."
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Postby Jumalariik » Fri May 20, 2016 5:00 pm

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To a point. Alot insinuates that a very large portion of an entire group is as you say. I see a few anecdotes of people affiliated with BLM doing criminal things, but I could just as easily have three links of say, high school students committing crimes and just as easily make up something like "most high school students are criminals."

most is not the same as a lot of.
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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Fri May 20, 2016 5:09 pm

54e wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/19/black-lives-matter-member-reportedly-charged-with-human-trafficking-and-prostitution.html
There's this too.

Oh wow! Isn't it weird that groups can have bad people in them? Crazy! Now we have to disband BLM!

Fuck you.

Yet you apply the same exact logic to police.
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Merizoc wrote:You're damn fucking right it is. Police and the courts are arms of an inherently oppressive institution, that abuse their power even within the statist framework, never mind from an anarchist perspective. I fail to see why they should have my respect.


As someone who wants to be either a lawyer or a cop, everything you said here is bullshit and offensive to the men and women who risk their lived everyday to keep you safe.

Nah, they live every day to perpetuate a system that oppresses those who have done nothing wrong for the most part, and overly punishes those who have. Why should they get my sympathy because they might occasionally have a break from locking up junkies and go stop a murder?

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Merizoc wrote:Nah, they live every day to perpetuate a system that oppresses those who have done nothing wrong for the most part, and overly punishes those who have. Why should they get my sympathy because they might occasionally have a break from locking up junkies and go stop a murder?


So much edge I could cut myself. But enlighten me, o sharp one, where is the inherent oppression in being a law abiding citizen?
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Postby The Ben Boys » Fri May 20, 2016 5:35 pm

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Merizoc wrote:Nah, they live every day to perpetuate a system that oppresses those who have done nothing wrong for the most part, and overly punishes those who have. Why should they get my sympathy because they might occasionally have a break from locking up junkies and go stop a murder?


So much edge I could cut myself. But enlighten me, o sharp one, where is the inherent oppression in being a law abiding citizen?

By being a law abiding citizen, you aren't being countercultural, you aren't being different. And we all have to be the same shade of unique to achieve edgism nirvana.

Duh.
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Postby Xadufell » Fri May 20, 2016 5:41 pm

Well I personally disagree with BLM as they're trying to prove a point that has already been playing proven; "Black Lives Matter" no shit Sherlock! If we didn't think black lives matter they'd still be in slavery! And it's not that police aren't bad, because there are many bad police officers. And the worst thing is some people say only blacks are victims of police brutality, when what's actually happening is the media is blowing up the police brutality that happens to blacks and completely ignores most cases of police brutality against whites and other races.
But that's none of my business.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri May 20, 2016 5:49 pm

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Merizoc wrote:Nah, they live every day to perpetuate a system that oppresses those who have done nothing wrong for the most part, and overly punishes those who have. Why should they get my sympathy because they might occasionally have a break from locking up junkies and go stop a murder?


So much edge I could cut myself. But enlighten me, o sharp one, where is the inherent oppression in being a law abiding citizen?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri May 20, 2016 7:06 pm

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Merizoc wrote:You're damn fucking right it is. Police and the courts are arms of an inherently oppressive institution, that abuse their power even within the statist framework, never mind from an anarchist perspective. I fail to see why they should have my respect.


As someone who wants to be either a lawyer or a cop, everything you said here is bullshit and offensive to the men and women who risk their lived everyday to keep you safe.


Speak for yourself, cops around here don't do anything to keep ME safe. They're just a bunch of assholes who don't do much beyond hand out tickets :lol2:
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