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Postby Alvecia » Fri May 20, 2016 7:23 am

Novus America wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Minimum wage is the least money one can earn legitimately. The only alternatives are "earning more", which is covered by minimum wage by reasons of "if they are earning more than that and still need help than fucking hell!" or "earning less but not legitimately" which is covered by "criminal scum don't deserve help anyway."


Minimum wage is not the topic.

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Postby The El Salvador State » Fri May 20, 2016 7:28 am

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Geilinor wrote:They were in the wrong. Most police officers do a good job and even if they don't, they don't deserve to get shot. Neither do people who get arrested unless they're a threat.


Government goons deserve no respect, especially when they harass minority communities.


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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Fri May 20, 2016 7:43 am

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The Forsworn Knights wrote:Cops are in danger all the time, I understand that, but they are not the most likely to get attacked on the job. That would be Healthcare Professionals.


True, but that does not make the police not important. Just because other put their lives on the line does not mean police do not.

Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.
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Postby Uxupox » Fri May 20, 2016 7:46 am

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Novus America wrote:
True, but that does not make the police not important. Just because other put their lives on the line does not mean police do not.

Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.


What are you talking about?
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Fri May 20, 2016 7:49 am

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The Forsworn Knights wrote:Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.


What are you talking about?

Twas a joke, if the Police were a Nation the Nationstates mods would have DEATed them for spamming the same line over and over again.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 7:50 am

Comcaliph wrote:Ah yes, so the republicans say.

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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 7:51 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Novus America wrote:
True, but that does not make the police not important. Just because other put their lives on the line does not mean police do not.

Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.


Umm the military does not walk into a rain of bullets every time the put on a uniform either...

Besides there are military policemen and policemen who are also in reserve component of the military. One is not necessarily inherently better or worse than the other.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Fri May 20, 2016 7:54 am

Novus America wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.


Umm the military does not walk into a rain of bullets every time the put on a uniform either...

Besides there are military policemen and policemen who are also in reserve component of the military. One is not necessarily inherently better or worse than the other.

The point is, Cops are always going on about how they are in danger every second of having that uniform on. And that is true, but it is nowhere near as much as they claim. At least compared to Healthcare professionals.
Hell, more Taxi Drivers got Murdered then Police did in 2013.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 7:58 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Umm the military does not walk into a rain of bullets every time the put on a uniform either...

Besides there are military policemen and policemen who are also in reserve component of the military. One is not necessarily inherently better or worse than the other.

The point is, Cops are always going on about how they are in danger every second of having that uniform on. And that is true, but it is nowhere near as much as they claim. At least compared to Healthcare professionals.
Hell, more Taxi Drivers got Murdered then Police did in 2013.

I've honestly never heard that, and I have an uncle who was a cop and a county deputy.
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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 7:58 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Umm the military does not walk into a rain of bullets every time the put on a uniform either...

Besides there are military policemen and policemen who are also in reserve component of the military. One is not necessarily inherently better or worse than the other.

The point is, Cops are always going on about how they are in danger every second of having that uniform on. And that is true, but it is nowhere near as much as they claim. At least compared to Healthcare professionals.
Hell, more Taxi Drivers got Murdered then Police did in 2013.


Some police may exagerate they danger they face, but I am not sure what your point is.
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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Fri May 20, 2016 8:06 am

Novus America wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:The point is, Cops are always going on about how they are in danger every second of having that uniform on. And that is true, but it is nowhere near as much as they claim. At least compared to Healthcare professionals.
Hell, more Taxi Drivers got Murdered then Police did in 2013.


Some police may exagerate they danger they face, but I am not sure what your point is.

That is the exact point I am getting at, they are in danger, but I am getting irritated by the extremists on both sides, and thus far I am the only one to call the Pro-Police extremists on their extreme views. The Anti-Police extremists have already been talked down thoroughly.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Fri May 20, 2016 8:12 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Novus America wrote:
True, but that does not make the police not important. Just because other put their lives on the line does not mean police do not.

Yeah, but they DO need to stop spamming the 'We are in almost as much danger as the Military' line. The Mods would have DEATed them by now. If they are walking into a rain of bullets everytime they put on their uniform, then someone needs to get fired for not doing their job right.


Possibly getting shot at comes with the job description. It doesn't mean you have the right to shoot at them, however.

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Postby Timsvill » Fri May 20, 2016 8:32 am

I'm a proud supporter of #Alllivesmatter. No life matters more than the other. Not a black person's, white person's, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, Native American, or Native Hawaiian or any other race. They all matter equally. That goes for cop's as well.

Yes there are some bad cop out there. But not every one of them are bad. A few bad eggs make the rest of the police look bad when their really not. So when I hear about idiots from the black lives matter destroy a sign that was simply supporting police and had nothing racist on it, I'm just reminded on how divided the united states is and where the direction this nation going. The direction is not a good one.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 20, 2016 8:41 am

Timsvill wrote:I'm a proud supporter of #Alllivesmatter. No life matters more than the other. Not a black person's, white person's, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, Native American, or Native Hawaiian or any other race. They all matter equally. That goes for cop's as well.

Yes there are some bad cop out there. But not every one of them are bad. A few bad eggs make the rest of the police look bad when their really not. So when I hear about idiots from the black lives matter destroy a sign that was simply supporting police and had nothing racist on it, I'm just reminded on how divided the united states is and where the direction this nation going. The direction is not a good one.


And so subsequent reports of blacks being killed during police stops should be trivialized and dismissed because All Lives Matter and we'll get to those blacks whenever.
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Postby Timsvill » Fri May 20, 2016 8:49 am

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Timsvill wrote:I'm a proud supporter of #Alllivesmatter. No life matters more than the other. Not a black person's, white person's, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, Native American, or Native Hawaiian or any other race. They all matter equally. That goes for cop's as well.

Yes there are some bad cop out there. But not every one of them are bad. A few bad eggs make the rest of the police look bad when their really not. So when I hear about idiots from the black lives matter destroy a sign that was simply supporting police and had nothing racist on it, I'm just reminded on how divided the united states is and where the direction this nation going. The direction is not a good one.


And so subsequent reports of blacks being killed during police stops should be trivialized and dismissed because All Lives Matter and we'll get to those blacks whenever.

That's where you're wrong. See, when I think of "All Lives Matter", I think of bringing up every shooting. If a unarmed black person is shot, people need to know about it and the cop needs to go to court where he can be tried and be proven innocent or guilty in a court of law. That goes for every race and cop as well. If a cop gets shot, we need to hear about it, if a Latino, Hispanic, White, Black or any other race gets shot and they were unarmed and were shot for no reason, then we need to hear about it and we need to take the shooter to court. That goes for every other racist crime. All Lives matter
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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 8:49 am

Gauthier wrote:
Timsvill wrote:I'm a proud supporter of #Alllivesmatter. No life matters more than the other. Not a black person's, white person's, Asian, Latino, Hispanic, Native American, or Native Hawaiian or any other race. They all matter equally. That goes for cop's as well.

Yes there are some bad cop out there. But not every one of them are bad. A few bad eggs make the rest of the police look bad when their really not. So when I hear about idiots from the black lives matter destroy a sign that was simply supporting police and had nothing racist on it, I'm just reminded on how divided the united states is and where the direction this nation going. The direction is not a good one.


And so subsequent reports of blacks being killed during police stops should be trivialized and dismissed because All Lives Matter and we'll get to those blacks whenever.


Strawman is straw.
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Postby Crockerland » Fri May 20, 2016 8:51 am

Novus America wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And so subsequent reports of blacks being killed during police stops should be trivialized and dismissed because All Lives Matter and we'll get to those blacks whenever.


Strawman is straw.

Gauthier is strawman king.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri May 20, 2016 8:52 am

Timsvill wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
And so subsequent reports of blacks being killed during police stops should be trivialized and dismissed because All Lives Matter and we'll get to those blacks whenever.

That's where you're wrong. See, when I think of "All Lives Matter", I think of bringing up every shooting. If a unarmed black person is shot, people need to know about it and the cop needs to go to court where he can be tried and be proven innocent or guilty in a court of law. That goes for every race and cop as well. If a cop gets shot, we need to hear about it, if a Latino, Hispanic, White, Black or any other race gets shot and they were unarmed and were shot for no reason, then we need to hear about it and we need to take the shooter to court. That goes for every other racist crime.


You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.
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Gauthier wrote:
Timsvill wrote:That's where you're wrong. See, when I think of "All Lives Matter", I think of bringing up every shooting. If a unarmed black person is shot, people need to know about it and the cop needs to go to court where he can be tried and be proven innocent or guilty in a court of law. That goes for every race and cop as well. If a cop gets shot, we need to hear about it, if a Latino, Hispanic, White, Black or any other race gets shot and they were unarmed and were shot for no reason, then we need to hear about it and we need to take the shooter to court. That goes for every other racist crime.


You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.

And you know this... how?
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Postby Alsheb » Fri May 20, 2016 8:54 am

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Alsheb wrote:By doing heroic things such as gunning down African Americans wearing a hoodie...

Yes. ALL cops fucking do this. ALL cops. Great argument there, mate.

I didn't say that. Nor did BLM ever say that. Yet apparently the fact thay Blacks protest police violence is enough reason for conservatives to get riled up enough to start a ridiculous mock movement with the sole intention of discrediting the BLM movement.
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Frenline Delpha wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.

And you know this... how?


Because All Lives or Blue Lives Matter weren't things at all until Black Lives Matter started? Like how the Tea Party wasn't a thing until Obama was elected President?
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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 8:54 am

Gauthier wrote:
Timsvill wrote:That's where you're wrong. See, when I think of "All Lives Matter", I think of bringing up every shooting. If a unarmed black person is shot, people need to know about it and the cop needs to go to court where he can be tried and be proven innocent or guilty in a court of law. That goes for every race and cop as well. If a cop gets shot, we need to hear about it, if a Latino, Hispanic, White, Black or any other race gets shot and they were unarmed and were shot for no reason, then we need to hear about it and we need to take the shooter to court. That goes for every other racist crime.


You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.


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Postby Timsvill » Fri May 20, 2016 8:54 am

Gauthier wrote:
Timsvill wrote:That's where you're wrong. See, when I think of "All Lives Matter", I think of bringing up every shooting. If a unarmed black person is shot, people need to know about it and the cop needs to go to court where he can be tried and be proven innocent or guilty in a court of law. That goes for every race and cop as well. If a cop gets shot, we need to hear about it, if a Latino, Hispanic, White, Black or any other race gets shot and they were unarmed and were shot for no reason, then we need to hear about it and we need to take the shooter to court. That goes for every other racist crime.


You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.

People interpret stuff differently. Half of the "All lives matter" people agree with me.
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Postby Alsheb » Fri May 20, 2016 8:57 am

Frenline Delpha wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
You're a bit idealistic. Most people who chant All or Blue Lives Matter do it to dismiss and trivialize the blacks killed during police stops.

And you know this... how?

The entire slogan "All lives matter" was invented specifically as an anti-BLM sloga. It's like trashing a cancer fundraiser and complain that aids kills people to
It's irrelevant and counterproductive.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 8:58 am

Alsheb wrote:
Frenline Delpha wrote:Yes. ALL cops fucking do this. ALL cops. Great argument there, mate.

I didn't say that. Nor did BLM ever say that. Yet apparently the fact thay Blacks protest police violence is enough reason for conservatives to get riled up enough to start a ridiculous mock movement with the sole intention of discrediting the BLM movement.

That's certainly how you made it sound.
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