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Was BLM in the right or wrong?

Right
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10%
Wrong
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Not enough evidence to make a conclusion.
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Total votes : 284

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Postby Serdian New Zealland » Wed May 18, 2016 9:00 pm

Islamic State of Viet-Nam wrote:blACK LIVES DONT MATTER

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Postby Inter-Universal Republic of Earth » Wed May 18, 2016 9:06 pm

I guess by this point, judging by the poll it is safe to assume that BLM was in the wrong. Thanks to everyone who has participated so far.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed May 18, 2016 9:13 pm

A Czecherboard wrote:If Black Lives Matter so much, how come they keep shooting each other?


When blacks shoot each other, someone gets arrested and put away.

When police shoot someone black, it gets excused for one reason for another. Nobody gets arrested for it.
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Postby Swith Witherward » Wed May 18, 2016 9:14 pm

Fashiontopia, just because someone doesn't believe something should be illegal doesn't mean it isn't.

If you don't like a law, get off your ass and make an effort to have it changed. You can do that, you know. It takes determination. You'll learn through that process that some laws are there because the public would be in danger without them; people do stupid things. Other laws should be changed and perhaps you're the person to accomplish it.



On topic...

I agree with the OP. BLM members were in the wrong for censoring the opinions of people they disagree with. The movement's leadership, on a local level, needs to grow up instead of behaving so immaturely.
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Postby Novus America » Wed May 18, 2016 9:16 pm

Gauthier wrote:
A Czecherboard wrote:If Black Lives Matter so much, how come they keep shooting each other?


When blacks shoot each other, someone gets arrested and put away.

When police shoot someone black, it gets excused for one reason for another. Nobody gets arrested for it.


Bullshit. Police have been arrested, charged and convicted for killing black people. You know Freddie Gray? Techincally he was not shot. But all the police involved were arrested.
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Postby Bolrieg » Wed May 18, 2016 9:35 pm

I'm surprised about how many though that this group was in the wrong, frankly I'm glad that no one (almost no one) is buying the whole "if you don't fanatically support them 100% of the time you're a racist" shit.

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Postby Inter-Universal Republic of Earth » Wed May 18, 2016 9:59 pm

Bolrieg wrote:I'm surprised about how many though that this group was in the wrong, frankly I'm glad that no one (almost no one) is buying the whole "if you don't fanatically support them 100% of the time you're a racist" shit.


Which group are you referring to?
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Postby Bolrieg » Thu May 19, 2016 6:06 am

Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:
Bolrieg wrote:I'm surprised about how many though that this group was in the wrong, frankly I'm glad that no one (almost no one) is buying the whole "if you don't fanatically support them 100% of the time you're a racist" shit.


Which group are you referring to?

Black Lives, I was just saying that I'm glad there wasn't just an influx of Tumblr Tripe coming through.

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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Thu May 19, 2016 9:08 am

Bolrieg wrote:
Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:
Which group are you referring to?

Black Lives, I was just saying that I'm glad there wasn't just an influx of Tumblr Tripe coming through.

I dont believe BLM is a fundamentally bad group. Its just the wrong group, and BLM has quite frankly hurt the cause more than it has helped it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu May 19, 2016 9:09 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Bolrieg wrote:Black Lives, I was just saying that I'm glad there wasn't just an influx of Tumblr Tripe coming through.

I dont believe BLM is a fundamentally bad group. Its just the wrong group, and BLM has quite frankly hurt the cause more than it has helped it.

Who has helped it?

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Postby Idzequitch » Thu May 19, 2016 9:21 am

Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:I guess by this point, judging by the poll it is safe to assume that BLM was in the wrong. Thanks to everyone who has participated so far.

The fact that a majority think so, doesn't necessarily make it true.
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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Thu May 19, 2016 10:09 am

Thing about the police is that if you shoot them and are caught you will definitely go to jail for an extremely long time if they don't "accidentally" kill you while arresting you.

Contrast this with black people where if you shoot them and are caught you can get off by claiming you were "standing your ground" despite absolutely no evidence if wrongdoing other than your own alleged pants-shitting racial terror.

I mean one movement obviously has value and the other does not.

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Postby Novus America » Thu May 19, 2016 10:56 am

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:Thing about the police is that if you shoot them and are caught you will definitely go to jail for an extremely long time if they don't "accidentally" kill you while arresting you.

Contrast this with black people where if you shoot them and are caught you can get off by claiming you were "standing your ground" despite absolutely no evidence if wrongdoing other than your own alleged pants-shitting racial terror.

I mean one movement obviously has value and the other does not.


You cannot just shoot a black person and automatically get away with it. There is discrimination in the criminal justice system but not to the extreme often portrayed. And you go back to Zimmerman who was not a cop. But regardless he was found not guilty by a jury who saw facts you did not.

But still problems with the law and courts are not the fault of the police.
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Postby Republic of Canador » Thu May 19, 2016 12:30 pm

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Nickel Empire wrote:Well then, I feel bad for you being afraid of cops just by what you see on TV and hear on the news. It wouldn't make much sense for me to be afraid of cops, since I'm in Police Cadets in my city, where I am surrounded by police officers and people who learning at a police academy to be cops.

I would feel safe near active-duty police or active-duty soldiers any day, they make no difference.

Which means you are one of them.

Everyone looks out for their own. Probably one of the reasons why sexism, racism, any -ism favoring oneself over others exists.

You don't have to be a cop to support the police force. I certainly am not a police officer and I fully agree with what Nickel Empire is saying.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu May 19, 2016 7:41 pm

Sooo.... Blue Lives Don't Matter? Remind me to never Serve or Protect anyone.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu May 19, 2016 7:52 pm

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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Thu May 19, 2016 7:54 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Sooo.... Blue Lives Don't Matter? Remind me to never Serve or Protect anyone.

As much as I hate to say it, a long while back SCOTUS ruled that the police do not have to Serve and Protect you.
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Postby The Ben Boys » Thu May 19, 2016 11:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:BLM has a tendency to be in the wrong.

BLM has a tendency to be flaming hypocrites. But hey, since it isn't a centralized movement, then BLM can't be bad!


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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 5:49 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Sooo.... Blue Lives Don't Matter? Remind me to never Serve or Protect anyone.

As much as I hate to say it, a long while back SCOTUS ruled that the police do not have to Serve and Protect you.


Not really. They ruled the police have discretion in responding. Most police do serve and protect. Literally every functioning modern society has some form of police. I like being able to call to police if needed.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Fri May 20, 2016 5:51 am

The Forsworn Knights wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Sooo.... Blue Lives Don't Matter? Remind me to never Serve or Protect anyone.

As much as I hate to say it, a long while back SCOTUS ruled that the police do not have to Serve and Protect you.


Wrong. The SCOTUS ruled the police do not have a duty to protect you if it puts them in serious danger, allowing for discresion in cases where an operation would put far too many police at risk. This does not mean, however, that the police do not Serve and Protect - they do.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri May 20, 2016 5:53 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Forsworn Knights wrote:As much as I hate to say it, a long while back SCOTUS ruled that the police do not have to Serve and Protect you.


Wrong. The SCOTUS ruled the police do not have a duty to protect you if it puts them in serious danger, allowing for discresion in cases where an operation would put far too many police at risk. This does not mean, however, that the police do not Serve and Protect - they do.

When it suits them.

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Postby Uxupox » Fri May 20, 2016 5:55 am

Merizoc wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Wrong. The SCOTUS ruled the police do not have a duty to protect you if it puts them in serious danger, allowing for discresion in cases where an operation would put far too many police at risk. This does not mean, however, that the police do not Serve and Protect - they do.

When it suits them.


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Postby MERIZoC » Fri May 20, 2016 5:58 am

Uxupox wrote:
Merizoc wrote:When it suits them.


The hate for statist "shill" is strong in this one.

You're damn fucking right it is. Police and the courts are arms of an inherently oppressive institution, that abuse their power even within the statist framework, never mind from an anarchist perspective. I fail to see why they should have my respect.

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Postby Frenline Delpha » Fri May 20, 2016 6:04 am

Merizoc wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
The hate for statist "shill" is strong in this one.

You're damn fucking right it is. Police and the courts are arms of an inherently oppressive institution, that abuse their power even within the statist framework, never mind from an anarchist perspective. I fail to see why they should have my respect.

Yeah, everything you just said has a heaping pile of salt on it. I don't see how any of this is coming from anywhere but an anarchists perspective.
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Postby Novus America » Fri May 20, 2016 6:13 am

Merizoc wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
The hate for statist "shill" is strong in this one.

You're damn fucking right it is. Police and the courts are arms of an inherently oppressive institution, that abuse their power even within the statist framework, never mind from an anarchist perspective. I fail to see why they should have my respect.


Because while imperfect, society would cease to function without them. Every functioning modern society has some form of courts and law enforcement.
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