BLM Tears Down 'Blue Lives Matter' billboards

[Nickel Empire]

Screw them then, not every cop is out to get them.

Ask that to every black person that has ever seen this and have not nearly had a heart attack or a nervous breakdown. Confrontations with cops in any manner are scary, even a friendly conversation.

I know I'm not a criminal and I'm still a little afraid when I speak with my many cop friends, no sudden movements, no loud noises, no appearance of anger.

I'd rather deal with a mean, unpredictable dog any day.

I'd rather be a zookeeper working with predators, than deal with cops. They are extremely scary.

You must have had bad experiences with cops if you are afraid of cops when you speak with them, even if they are your friends. I find cops to be like everyday people.

[Fashiontopia]

No, but the laws they enforce were the subject of my comment.

I said cigarette laws, traffic laws, any simple laws that are ridiculous and tedious, are prime examples of black people being killed over.

Again, Eric Garner, just selling cigarettes, engaging in free trade, soliciting sales, law against it, gets stopped, gets killed.

The law shouldn't have been there in the first place.

It has been a while since I have read about the Garner case, but correct me if I am wrong, wasnt Eric Garner selling cigarettes without a license on a sidewalk? Because if so, that is illegal for a very good reason. Otherwise anyone could just grab a couple packs and sell the things to children with it being very difficult to prevent and track.
Now, should he have been killed? Fuck no.

As a libertarian, this is fundamentally wrong.

A free private citizen, should have the right to sell what there is a demand for, if people want to use cigarettes, that's on them, if people want to sell cigarettes, that's on them and their customers, and sense when does the government have the right to force businesses to register what is done on private time, in private transactions, between private parties.

Again, overall, nothing he was doing should have been illegal.

Regulation of morality always causes people to be killed or imprisoned.

[Geilinor]

It has been a while since I have read about the Garner case, but correct me if I am wrong, wasnt Eric Garner selling cigarettes without a license on a sidewalk? Because if so, that is illegal for a very good reason. Otherwise anyone could just grab a couple packs and sell the things to children with it being very difficult to prevent and track.
Now, should he have been killed? Fuck no.

As a libertarian, this is fundamentally wrong.

A free private citizen, should have the right to sell what there is a demand for, if people want to use cigarettes, that's on them, if people want to sell cigarettes, that's on them and their customers, and sense when does the government have the right to force businesses to register what is done on private time, in private transactions, between private parties.

Again, overall, nothing he was doing should have been illegal.

Regulation of morality always causes people to be killed or imprisoned.

All laws on some level regulate morality. That includes laws against murder and theft.

[Novus America]

Well a justified killing is not tyranny. And unjustified killings are very rare.

To repeat myself: "No, but the laws they [were] enforcing were the subject of my comment", if you are involved in a sale of "illegal" cigarettes, or a failure to use a turn signal, first of all, those offenses shouldn't be illegal, second of all, no one should be enforcing those types of laws.

And I see your feel the Johnson in your signature, I'm a Libertarian too, and I'm actually for Criminal Justice reform.

Look I am all for criminal justice reform and ending the war on drugs. But if a guy pulls a gun or knife on a cop, he still will get shot. Yes sometimes the laws enforced are stupid laws, and we need fewer stupid laws. But that will not end all violence.

And stupid laws are a problem of stupid legislators, not the police.

I am not a libertarian though. Although I agree with them on several things.

[Fashiontopia]

Ask that to every black person that has ever seen this and have not nearly had a heart attack or a nervous breakdown. Confrontations with cops in any manner are scary, even a friendly conversation.

I know I'm not a criminal and I'm still a little afraid when I speak with my many cop friends, no sudden movements, no loud noises, no appearance of anger.

I'd rather deal with a mean, unpredictable dog any day.

I'd rather be a zookeeper working with predators, than deal with cops. They are extremely scary.

You must have had bad experiences with cops if you are afraid of cops when you speak with them, even if they are your friends. I find cops to be like everyday people.

Never a bad experience, but I know aggressive demeanors when I see them, if a person is showing aggressive body language, and you are seeing people wearing what they are wearing, killing people on TV, you tend to be afraid.

I have been around active-duty armed forces and have felt more safe.

[The Forsworn Knights]

It has been a while since I have read about the Garner case, but correct me if I am wrong, wasnt Eric Garner selling cigarettes without a license on a sidewalk? Because if so, that is illegal for a very good reason. Otherwise anyone could just grab a couple packs and sell the things to children with it being very difficult to prevent and track.
Now, should he have been killed? Fuck no.

As a libertarian, this is fundamentally wrong.

A free private citizen, should have the right to sell what there is a demand for, if people want to use cigarettes, that's on them, if people want to sell cigarettes, that's on them and their customers, and sense when does the government have the right to force businesses to register what is done on private time, in private transactions, between private parties.

Again, overall, nothing he was doing should have been illegal.

Regulation of morality always causes people to be killed or imprisoned.

Translation: I should be allowed to buy a packet of cigarettes and sell them to a toddler on a regular basis, fucking up their lungs before they have the ability to comprehend what they are doing, having only known cigarettes as a 'Cool' thing.

[Fashiontopia]

All laws on some level regulate morality. That includes laws against murder and theft.

As a general statement that I made, I did not include the laws on those levels.

To clarify, I mean anything that does not harm another individual, should be legal.

Look I am all for criminal justice reform and ending the war on drugs. But if a guy pulls a gun or knife on a cop, he still will get shot. Yes sometimes the laws enforced are stupid laws, and we need fewer stupid laws. But that will not end all violence.

I am not a libertarian though. Although I agree with them on several things.

Yes, taking away stupid laws will lower and eventually end meaningless shootings, if cops can focus on stopping rapists, serial killers, murderers, child molestors, they won't have to worry about people selling cigarettes without a license, driving with expired tags, or failure to use turn signals.

That cuts down on interactions with police, and cuts down on chances of being killed by police.

Not to mention closes down prisons, and releases people back into the community to take jobs, and create new jobs, as well as be there for their families.

Black males wouldn't be so bad, if so many of their fathers weren't in prison on non-violent offenses that affect no one.

[United Marxist Nations]

Disgusting behavior.

Almost as disgusting as arresting drug using "criminals", harassing minority communities, shooting unarmed black youths and robbing suspects during arrests.

I find it really funny that you put "criminals" in quotes, considering that, yes, they are, by any definition, criminals.

[The Princes of the Universe]

To clarify, I mean anything that does not harm another individual, should be legal.

Smoking should be illegal under that criterion.

[Nickel Empire]

You must have had bad experiences with cops if you are afraid of cops when you speak with them, even if they are your friends. I find cops to be like everyday people.

Never a bad experience, but I know aggressive demeanors when I see them, if a person is showing aggressive body language, and you are seeing people wearing what they are wearing, killing people on TV, you tend to be afraid.

I have been around active-duty armed forces and have felt more safe.

Well then, I feel bad for you being afraid of cops just by what you see on TV and hear on the news. It wouldn't make much sense for me to be afraid of cops, since I'm in Police Cadets in my city, where I am surrounded by police officers and people who learning at a police academy to be cops.

I would feel safe near active-duty police or active-duty soldiers any day, they make no difference.

[Fashiontopia]

Translation: I should be allowed to buy a packet of cigarettes and sell them to a toddler on a regular basis, fucking up their lungs before they have the ability to comprehend what they are doing, having only known cigarettes as a 'Cool' thing.

Parents have, will, and will always have responsibility to take care of and guide their children on the right path. If you want to allow your kids to be smokers, let them, if you don't, don't.

I don't know of anyone giving money to toddlers and them being able to ask for cigarettes though.

Laws regulating morality - of crimes that don't affect anyone - take personal responsibility and responsibility for your family and friends out of society.

It is up to parents to raise their children.

[The East Marches]

You must have had bad experiences with cops if you are afraid of cops when you speak with them, even if they are your friends. I find cops to be like everyday people.

Never a bad experience, but I know aggressive demeanors when I see them, if a person is showing aggressive body language, and you are seeing people wearing what they are wearing, killing people on TV, you tend to be afraid.

I have been around active-duty armed forces and have felt more safe.

Speak for yourself. At least cops don't go full retard like Joe has a tendency to do.

[Fashiontopia]

Well then, I feel bad for you being afraid of cops just by what you see on TV and hear on the news. It wouldn't make much sense for me to be afraid of cops, since I'm in Police Cadets in my city, where I am surrounded by police officers and people who learning at a police academy to be cops.

I would feel safe near active-duty police or active-duty soldiers any day, they make no difference.

Which means you are one of them.

Everyone looks out for their own. Probably one of the reasons why sexism, racism, any -ism favoring oneself over others exists.

[Fashiontopia]

Almost as disgusting as arresting drug using "criminals", harassing minority communities, shooting unarmed black youths and robbing suspects during arrests.

I find it really funny that you put "criminals" in quotes, considering that, yes, they are, by any definition, criminals.

He means that the people who use the drugs are made criminals by a system which does not favor the right of the people to do as they please. What people put in their body is their own business.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Translation: I should be allowed to buy a packet of cigarettes and sell them to a toddler on a regular basis, fucking up their lungs before they have the ability to comprehend what they are doing, having only known cigarettes as a 'Cool' thing.

Parents have, will, and will always have responsibility to take care of and guide their children on the right path. If you want to allow your kids to be smokers, let them, if you don't, don't.

I don't know of anyone giving money to toddlers and them being able to ask for cigarettes though.

Laws regulating morality - of crimes that don't affect anyone - take personal responsibility and responsibility for your family and friends out of society.

It is up to parents to raise their children.

Then it is the parent's choice to fuck up the Toddler's lungs?

Toddlers steal wallets, and some Toddlers have rich parents. It is not an everyday occurrance, but it does happen.

The law is there to keep people safe. There are laws against smoking or drinking when you are a minor because that can and will mess you up if you are underage, Will probably mess you up when you are an adult too, but then at least you can choose it for yourself.

Yes. And Parents cant beat their children. Shall we let them do that as well?

[Nickel Empire]

Well then, I feel bad for you being afraid of cops just by what you see on TV and hear on the news. It wouldn't make much sense for me to be afraid of cops, since I'm in Police Cadets in my city, where I am surrounded by police officers and people who learning at a police academy to be cops.

I would feel safe near active-duty police or active-duty soldiers any day, they make no difference.

Which means you are one of them.

Everyone looks out for their own. Probably one of the reasons why sexism, racism, any -ism favoring oneself over others exists.

Yes, I am one of them just because I am learning the law.

What if I don't belong to a group?

[Mavorpen]

You must have had bad experiences with cops if you are afraid of cops when you speak with them, even if they are your friends. I find cops to be like everyday people.

I've never had a bad experience with a cop and I pretty much feel the same way, unfortunately.

[Novus America]

All laws on some level regulate morality. That includes laws against murder and theft.

As a general statement that I made, I did not include the laws on those levels.

To clarify, I mean anything that does not harm another individual, should be legal.

Look I am all for criminal justice reform and ending the war on drugs. But if a guy pulls a gun or knife on a cop, he still will get shot. Yes sometimes the laws enforced are stupid laws, and we need fewer stupid laws. But that will not end all violence.

I am not a libertarian though. Although I agree with them on several things.

Yes, taking away stupid laws will lower and eventually end meaningless shootings, if cops can focus on stopping rapists, serial killers, murderers, child molestors, they won't have to worry about people selling cigarettes without a license, driving with expired tags, or failure to use turn signals.

That cuts down on interactions with police, and cuts down on chances of being killed by police.

Not to mention closes down prisons, and releases people back into the community to take jobs, and create new jobs, as well as be there for their families.

Black males wouldn't be so bad, if so many of their fathers weren't in prison on non-violent offenses that affect no one.

Well I agree criminal justice reform can help, this is a legislative matter. The police do not make the laws. But failure to use your turn singnal is dangerous to others. People should get stopped for that.

[Fashiontopia]

Then it is the parent's choice to fuck up the Toddler's lungs?

Toddlers steal wallets, and some Toddlers have rich parents. It is not an everyday occurrance, but it does happen.

The law is there to keep people safe. There are laws against smoking or drinking when you are a minor because that can and will mess you up if you are underage, Will probably mess you up when you are an adult too, but then at least you can choose it for yourself.

Yes. And Parents cant beat their children. Shall we let them do that as well?

To quote the Social Conservative's Living Life for Dummy's book: "spare the rod spoil the child"

Parents can pick and choose the direction of their children's upbringing, if you want to give your child cigarettes, that's on you. My mother let me try alcohol when I was young, I choose not to drink to get drunk to this very day.

Parents are to show their kids the way to live, then kids will decide for themselves how to live. Not the government, who almost always gets it wrong.

Second of all, law is intended to keep people safe from other people, not from themselves, if someone drives off a cliff, committing attempted suicide but not dying, that didn't hurt anyone.

If people collect rainwater, or drive without registering themselves with the government to drive a vehicle they own, with their own hard earned money, it's a "crime"

[Fashiontopia]

Well I agree criminal justice reform can help, this is a legislative matter. The police do not make the laws. But failure to use your turn singnal is dangerous to others. People should get stopped for that.

Snap out of it my fellow libertarian buddy, freedom over security, freedom over security, freedom over security.

I didn't say it was a police issue, I said from the beginning that the laws they enforce shouldn't be laws, leading to my point that it is yes, a legislative issue.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Then it is the parent's choice to fuck up the Toddler's lungs?

Toddlers steal wallets, and some Toddlers have rich parents. It is not an everyday occurrance, but it does happen.

The law is there to keep people safe. There are laws against smoking or drinking when you are a minor because that can and will mess you up if you are underage, Will probably mess you up when you are an adult too, but then at least you can choose it for yourself.

Yes. And Parents cant beat their children. Shall we let them do that as well?

To quote the Social Conservative's Living Life for Dummy's book: "spare the rod spoil the child"

Parents can pick and choose the direction of their children's upbringing, if you want to give your child cigarettes, that's on you. My mother let me try alcohol when I was young, I choose not to drink to get drunk to this very day.

Parents are to show their kids the way to live, then kids will decide for themselves how to live. Not the government, who almost always gets it wrong.

Second of all, law is intended to keep people safe from other people, not from themselves, if someone drives off a cliff, committing attempted suicide but not dying, that didn't hurt anyone.

If people collect rainwater, or drive without registering themselves with the government to drive a vehicle they own, with their own hard earned money, it's a "crime"

So, tell me if I miss anything, you support beating children, you support parents taking actions which directly damage their children and risk lowering that child's lifespan, and you believe that people should be able to make it very difficult for the government to track them using their license plate if they commit a murder, steal a car, or commit some other car-related crime/flee a crime scene in a vehicle.

[Islamic State of Viet-Nam]

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[The Forsworn Knights]

Well I agree criminal justice reform can help, this is a legislative matter. The police do not make the laws. But failure to use your turn singnal is dangerous to others. People should get stopped for that.

Snap out of it my fellow libertarian buddy, freedom over security, freedom over security, freedom over security.

I didn't say it was a police issue, I said from the beginning that the laws they enforce shouldn't be laws, leading to my point that it is yes, a legislative issue.

In other words, you have the freedom to keep an unsecured firearm within reach of a child, or refuse to use a turn signal and cause a car crash that gets someone else killed?

[Geilinor]

Well I agree criminal justice reform can help, this is a legislative matter. The police do not make the laws. But failure to use your turn singnal is dangerous to others. People should get stopped for that.

Snap out of it my fellow libertarian buddy, freedom over security, freedom over security, freedom over security.

I didn't say it was a police issue, I said from the beginning that the laws they enforce shouldn't be laws, leading to my point that it is yes, a legislative issue.

If you believe that there should be no laws on using turn signals, you're wrong.

[Novus America]

Well I agree criminal justice reform can help, this is a legislative matter. The police do not make the laws. But failure to use your turn singnal is dangerous to others. People should get stopped for that.

Snap out of it my fellow libertarian buddy, freedom over security, freedom over security, freedom over security.

I didn't say it was a police issue, I said from the beginning that the laws they enforce shouldn't be laws, leading to my point that it is yes, a legislative issue.

Well again I am not a Libertarian. But freedom over security has limits. We need traffic laws.

However I agree this is mostly a legislative issue.