BLM Tears Down 'Blue Lives Matter' billboards

[Gauthier]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/blue-lives-matter-display-defaced-at-dartmouth-college-republicans-say/ar-BBt9Bgk?ocid=fbmsn

I believe that the BLM members were in the wrong in this situation here, due to censoring the opinions of people they disagree with.

So what do you all think? Was BLM in the right? Wrong? Or do not have enough evidence to come to a clear result?

Did I tell you about the time BLM attacked a veteran at a McDonalds or the time sthey started riots, most of BLM is looking for an excuse to start shit and the few who want to change something they need to get out of BLM

Black Lives Matter is also not a formal organization which means any asshole can do shit and claim to do it in their name.

[Ostroeuropa]

In the past 50 years, the rate of black Americans killed by police has dropped 70 percent. In 2012, 123 African-Americans were shot dead by police. There are currently more than 43 million blacks living in the U.S.A. Same year, 326 whites were killed by police bullets.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/c ... verviewpdf

So blacks are around 1/3rd as likely to get shot as whites. What's the crime rates?

Murder:
White Black
4,101 4,203
Rape
White Black
9,027 4,512
Aggravated Assault
White Black
188,505 102,371

You get the idea.
They're shot at a rate you'd expect for the number of crimes they commit. But because police shootings allow for sensationalist and hysterical bullshit, the media usually picks up on one and screams racism over and over.

In actuality, black criminals are proportionally less likely to get shot by the police while commiting crimes.

But since that doesn't fit the media narrative, nobody talks about it.

In terms of sentencing they might get screwed, but the often thrown around POLICESHOOTINGSOMG! is just the result of media misinformation and sensationalism.
It's easy to go apeshit over an incident of someone getting shot rather than going through the process of reporting on our crap justice system.

Here are those numbers again. Old thread though, do not directly quote and post.

[Liriena]

This is what BLM has been doing from the start.

It's very telling how BLM seemingly becomes enraged from slogans such as Blue Lives Matter and White Lives Matter too. BLM is only interested in divisive racial identity politics instead of seeking structural reforms everyone would benefit from.

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

[Novus America]

The fruit isn't hanging very high.



So what's your solution then?

As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.

Umm again minorities can buy guns and joint gun clubs. I fail to see how this would solve anything.

And race based militias is definitely got my to make things worse not better.

[Costa Fierro]

As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.

So you want African Americans to fight police brutality with...terrorism? I mean, African Americans won't be seen as criminals anymore now that they're going to be stereotyped as terrorists instead.

Maybe that would take the heat off Muslims?

[Gauthier]

This is what BLM has been doing from the start.

It's very telling how BLM seemingly becomes enraged from slogans such as Blue Lives Matter and White Lives Matter too. BLM is only interested in divisive racial identity politics instead of seeking structural reforms everyone would benefit from.

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

Not to mention nobody was insisting blue or white lives mattered until Those Uppity Thugs had the gall to demand humane respect.

[Neo Arcad]

The fruit isn't hanging very high.



So what's your solution then?

As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.

Because that won't devolve into armed racist thugs attacking people who wander too close to their ghettos. No way. It certainly won't lead to local "Black Panther gun club" warlords running little third-world countries where the police and emergency services can't go.

Do you even listen to what you're saying, or do you just angrily vomit onto your keyboard and post whatever you get?

[Gauthier]

As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.

So you want African Americans to fight police brutality with...terrorism? I mean, African Americans won't be seen as criminals anymore now that they're going to be stereotyped as terrorists instead.

Maybe that would take the heat of Muslims?

Or they'll rant about how Nation of Islam is trying to forge an alliance with Daesh.

[Ostroeuropa]

This is what BLM has been doing from the start.

It's very telling how BLM seemingly becomes enraged from slogans such as Blue Lives Matter and White Lives Matter too. BLM is only interested in divisive racial identity politics instead of seeking structural reforms everyone would benefit from.

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

The core message of BLM is based in a falsehood.

[Grande Republic of Arcadia]

Am I the only one who is starting to think Black lives matter is Back Panthers 2.0?

[Ostroeuropa]

As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.

Because that won't devolve into armed racist thugs attacking people who wander too close to their ghettos. No way. It certainly won't lead to local "Black Panther gun club" warlords running little third-world countries where the police and emergency services can't go.

Do you even listen to what you're saying, or do you just angrily vomit onto your keyboard and post whatever you get?

What's hilarious about that proposal (Though grim in reality) is that many of these communities do have armed people roaming them, and they shoot more blacks than anyone else does.

[Gauthier]

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

The core message of BLM is based in a falsehood.

Blacks are not disproportionately targeted by police, women have it easy, what else?

[Gauthier]

Am I the only one who is starting to think Black lives matter is Back Panthers 2.0?

At least one poster wishes it was.

[Costa Fierro]

So you want African Americans to fight police brutality with...terrorism? I mean, African Americans won't be seen as criminals anymore now that they're going to be stereotyped as terrorists instead.

Maybe that would take the heat of Muslims?

Or they'll rant about how Nation of Islam is trying to forge an alliance with Daesh.

Funny you mention that because someone just TG'd me about how BLM is the new Nation of Islam.

[Crockerland]

A wild strawman has appeared!

Experience tells me when someone screams Strawman repeatedly it means something is closer to the truth than is comfortable. And all you've done is gone on an All Cops Are Pigs rant without offering any semblance of a proposal yourself.

Yeah, maybe if the person calling strawman was responding to someone else, but considering how often you strawman people (myself and wallenburg, at least) that's likely not the case if the person being accused of strawmanning is you.

[The New Sea Territory]

Government goons deserve no respect, especially when they harass minority communities.

Sorry for coming in late chaps, but I must express my views.

Your opinion is so wrong that it literally makes me cringe. Anarchists are also completely mad. I still can't grasp myself around why someone would like to live in a society where there are no laws, where you could be robbed or even killed and no one would do anything. But that is not the point.

Please, tell me more about what I and other anarchists believe! Clearly, you must be deeply familiar with the works of Kropotkin, to make such an insightful statement about my political philosophy.

The point is, without police officers, people would be going on a crime spree. The least you can do is show a little respect to the officers who protect you on a daily basis from potentially being killed. The fact that a certain police force may oppress a certain minority community is definitely something that must be discussed, but to brand all police officers like that makes me sick.

I'll respect officers when they respect black people and the homeless.

More importantly, the "respect" argument is a distraction from actual issues.

[Neo Arcad]

This is what BLM has been doing from the start.

It's very telling how BLM seemingly becomes enraged from slogans such as Blue Lives Matter and White Lives Matter too. BLM is only interested in divisive racial identity politics instead of seeking structural reforms everyone would benefit from.

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

The difference is that you see open hatred and murder of the police, but not of blacks. BLM has been a racist movement from day one. It's funded by the same shady characters who fund Hillary's campaign and tried to make Ted Cruz into a real boy.

[Talvezout]

Welp, this thread quickly devolved into a argument between two somewhat extreme sides.

[Ostroeuropa]

They become enraged by those slogans because they are obvious attempts to misrepresent and undermine the core message of Black Lives Matter. BLM never meant 'Only Black Lives Matter' or 'Black Lives Matter More', but police brutality apologists were quick to spin the three-word slogan into an alleged black supremacist mantra, and hit back with useless tautologies whose only real purpose was to denigrate the plights of black communities.

We know 'all lives matter', we know 'white lives matter too', and most people would agree that 'blue lives matter', but the fact that those three statements were only made in retort to the rise of a movement that proclaimed 'black lives matter' is very telling.

The difference is that you see open hatred and murder of the police, but not of blacks. BLM has been a racist movement from day one. It's funded by the same shady characters who fund Hillary's campaign and tried to make Ted Cruz into a real boy.

It's also based on a racist myth about the police.

[Ganos Lao]

So you want African Americans to fight police brutality with...terrorism? I mean, African Americans won't be seen as criminals anymore now that they're going to be stereotyped as terrorists instead.

Maybe that would take the heat of Muslims?

Or they'll rant about how Nation of Islam is trying to forge an alliance with Daesh.

The black man's KKK teaming up with ISIS?

Ha, that'll put butts in the seats.

[The New Sea Territory]

A wild strawman has appeared!

Experience tells me when someone screams Strawman repeatedly it means something is closer to the truth than is comfortable.

You must have a lot of experience with strawmen.

Whatever. You either know what you said is intentionally misleading, or you really don't understand anarchism.

And all you've done is gone on an All Cops Are Pigs rant without offering any semblance of a proposal yourself.

I've now said it three times: arming minority communities.

[Gauthier]

The difference is that you see open hatred and murder of the police, but not of blacks. BLM has been a racist movement from day one. It's funded by the same shady characters who fund Hillary's campaign and tried to make Ted Cruz into a real boy.

It's also based on a racist myth about the police.

Freddie Gray was a menace to society and the police had to stop him by tying him up and driving him on the floor of a van without restraints. *nod nod*

[Gauthier]

Experience tells me when someone screams Strawman repeatedly it means something is closer to the truth than is comfortable.

You must have a lot of experience with strawmen.

Whatever. You either know what you said is intentionally misleading, or you really don't understand anarchism.

And all you've done is gone on an All Cops Are Pigs rant without offering any semblance of a proposal yourself.

I've now said it three times: arming minority communities.

So basically warlordism. Great idea.

[Crockerland]

Welp, this thread quickly devolved into a argument between two somewhat extreme sides.

This thread quickly devolved into The New Sea Territory screaming that all law enforcement is racism if a higher percentage of blacks than whites commit a crime and every other person calling him out on being wrong, actually.

[Grande Republic of Arcadia]

I'm just waiting for the KKK and BLM to face off in the south
if so.........