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Postby Novus America » Tue May 17, 2016 9:36 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
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Umm far more people are killed by criminals than cops...


Sure.

Your justification still doesn't make sense.


Well it shows we need the police to protect us against criminals.
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Postby Liriena » Tue May 17, 2016 9:36 pm

Republic of Canador wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:That's not the point.

The "Blue Lives Matter" movement is subverting the cry of #BlackLivesMatter to turn discourse away from racial disparities and abuse in policing and criminal justice to praising and protecting those who carry out those injustices, as if they are somehow the true victims.

"Blue Lives Matter" exists mainly to undermine #BlackLivesMatter, and would not exist without it.

Blue lives matter is a completely separate and viable problem.

Except the slogan 'blue lives matter' was unheard of until Black Lives Matter came along and started to stand up against politice brutality, so what gives?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:36 pm

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Fundamental flaw in your argument, right there.


How? Numbers don't lie. Blacks are disproportionately more likely to commit a wide range of crimes. It's not a flaw, it's a fact.


I'm pretty sure posting a picture of the human anus is against site rules.

Might want to find another source for your "fact".
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue May 17, 2016 9:37 pm

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Because it is.

Drug prohibition always has been harassment of minority communities. Just harassment in general. The police are taking away individual liberties.


So if police was done away with entirely everyone will get along harmoniously like Smurf Village?


It'd be anarchy. Duh.
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 17, 2016 9:37 pm

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Look the drug war is fucked up. But that is not the fault of the police as much as bad legislation.


It's not their fault that it exists. That's obvious.

Still, they enforce it. Are they completely not responsible, because they are just doing their job?


I never said the are completely not responsible. No institution is perfect, and we cannot have the police making their own laws.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:38 pm

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Sure.

Your justification still doesn't make sense.


Well it shows we need the police to protect us against criminals.


This need justifies very, very little of modern policing.
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Postby Crockerland » Tue May 17, 2016 9:38 pm

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Crockerland wrote:Murder is illegal for everyone, but murder prohibition affects black communities much more.

Making murder illegal is basically apartheid.


Because murder and marijuana use are so comparable.

More comparable than illegalizing drug use and Jim Crow.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:39 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
So if police was done away with entirely everyone will get along harmoniously like Smurf Village?


It'd be anarchy. Duh.


Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...
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Postby Inter-Universal Republic of Earth » Tue May 17, 2016 9:39 pm

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How? Numbers don't lie. Blacks are disproportionately more likely to commit a wide range of crimes. It's not a flaw, it's a fact.


I'm pretty sure posting a picture of the human anus is against site rules.

Might want to find another source for your "fact".


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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:40 pm

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Because murder and marijuana use are so comparable.

More comparable than illegalizing drug use and Jim Crow.


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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 17, 2016 9:41 pm

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It'd be anarchy. Duh.


Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...


Because having no formal government in place and expecting everyone to know their part and work harmoniously like hive insects are much more realistic.
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Postby Valystria » Tue May 17, 2016 9:41 pm

This is what BLM has been doing from the start.

It's very telling how BLM seemingly becomes enraged from slogans such as Blue Lives Matter and White Lives Matter too. BLM is only interested in divisive racial identity politics instead of seeking structural reforms everyone would benefit from.

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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue May 17, 2016 9:41 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Murder is illegal for everyone, but murder prohibition affects black communities much more.

Making murder illegal is basically apartheid.


Because murder and marijuana use are so comparable.


They're both crimes, so... yeah, they're vaguely comparable. More similar than segregation laws and drug laws, at least, which makes you a hypocrite. Not that we didn't already have the ability to infer that, but it helps to know.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm

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Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...


Because having no formal government in place and expecting everyone to know their part and work harmoniously like hive insects are much more realistic.


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Postby Novus America » Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
It'd be anarchy. Duh.


Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...


Why? Things are not perfect, but much better now then they were in the 1890s.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s


The fruit isn't hanging very high.

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...


So what's your solution then?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm

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Because murder and marijuana use are so comparable.


They're both crimes, so... yeah, they're vaguely comparable. More similar than segregation laws and drug laws, at least, which makes you a hypocrite. Not that we didn't already have the ability to infer that, but it helps to know.


I'd be careful where you point the "hypocrite" word when you've yet to provide any sources for your claims.

On the other hand, I have.
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Postby Republic of Canador » Tue May 17, 2016 9:42 pm

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Republic of Canador wrote:Blue lives matter is a completely separate and viable problem.

Except the slogan 'blue lives matter' was unheard of until Black Lives Matter came along and started to stand up against politice brutality, so what gives?


The slogan was inspired by the Black Lives Matters Movement, but that doesn't mean in any way that Law Enforcment personnel's lives were only cared for since then. BLM has the potential to cause hostility to cops. Blue lives Matter corrects that problem.
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Postby Zapad Rossiya » Tue May 17, 2016 9:43 pm

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Geilinor wrote:They were in the wrong. Most police officers do a good job and even if they don't, they don't deserve to get shot. Neither do people who get arrested unless they're a threat.


Government goons deserve no respect, especially when they harass minority communities.


Sorry for coming in late chaps, but I must express my views.

Your opinion is so wrong that it literally makes me cringe. Anarchists are also completely mad. I still can't grasp myself around why someone would like to live in a society where there are no laws, where you could be robbed or even killed and no one would do anything. But that is not the point.

The point is, without police officers, people would be going on a crime spree. The least you can do is show a little respect to the officers who protect you on a daily basis from potentially being killed. The fact that a certain police force may oppress a certain minority community is definitely something that must be discussed, but to brand all police officers like that makes me sick.

Black Lives Matter in general has really been pissing me off recently, and this most recent event makes me want a Nationalist government, so they can suppress this nonsense....
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Tue May 17, 2016 9:43 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Ha. Haha. That's so funny. /s


The fruit isn't hanging very high.

Clearly, liberal reform is so "realistic" and productive...


So what's your solution then?


As I said earlier, arming minority communities is one possibility. Black Panther-style gun clubs.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 17, 2016 9:44 pm

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Because having no formal government in place and expecting everyone to know their part and work harmoniously like hive insects are much more realistic.


A wild strawman has appeared!


Experience tells me when someone screams Strawman repeatedly it means something is closer to the truth than is comfortable. And all you've done is gone on an All Cops Are Pigs rant without offering any semblance of a proposal yourself.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 17, 2016 9:44 pm

As i've gone over previously, statistically, black people are NOT shot at a higher rate than white people are for the number of violent crimes they commit.

So what's happened here is a racist group founded upon race baiting myths, which has already become known for violent outbursts and property damage, has once again engaged in property damage.
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I believe that the BLM (Black lives matter)members were in the wrong in this situation here, due to censoring the opinions of people they disagree with.

So what do you all think? Was BLM(Blsck lives matter) in the right? Wrong? Or do not have enough evidence to come to a clear result?

Did I tell you about the time BLM (Black lives matter)attacked a veteran at a McDonalds or the time sthey started riots, most of BLM (black lives matter) is looking for an excuse to start shit and the few who want to change something they need to get out of BLM(Black lives matter)
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Postby Novus America » Tue May 17, 2016 9:44 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Novus America wrote:
Well it shows we need the police to protect us against criminals.


This need justifies very, very little of modern policing.


How so? The police do give violent crime priority. And do stop and punish violent crime.
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Postby Neo Arcad » Tue May 17, 2016 9:44 pm

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How? Numbers don't lie. Blacks are disproportionately more likely to commit a wide range of crimes. It's not a flaw, it's a fact.


I'm pretty sure posting a picture of the human anus is against site rules.

Might want to find another source for your "fact".


I'm afraid I don't understand. Perhaps you can explain what you meant by this. No one posted a picture of an anus, human or otherwise. You should think more carefully before you post, or risk making no sense, like you did here. Try reading what you've written before you post it, and imagining another person reading it.
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