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Postby Egemore » Tue May 31, 2016 1:02 pm

A little old, but relevant to the topic at hand.

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Postby The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 1:10 pm

Egemore wrote:A little old, but relevant to the topic at hand.



I'm surprised by the across the board rankings of both the WSJ and The Economist. Pretty good tbh.

Edit: Same with USA Today and the BBC, I thought I was the only loser who liked USA Today.
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Postby Nayba Collective » Tue May 31, 2016 1:29 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Zoice wrote:Would a progressive bias be better for you?


It's just a really smug and pretentious saying.

"Reality has a left wing bias" is a simple way of saying "I'm right, because I stand with reality, and you're just delusional."

I am probably best summarized as a Centre-Left Nationalist, and I have to say that I agree. "Reality has a left-wing bias" is nothing but low-class bumper-sticker politicking. The phrase exists primarily for self-gratification, and should only be used for countering equally self-gratifying phrases like the one about "heart by 20, brain by 30".

Annorax wrote:These are conservative positions. Why wouldn't conservatives endorse Trump our call out Chairman Obama on his birth in Honolulu? I think what you are really asking is if there is an American conservative news outlet that book licks progressive Democrats in which case you will find none.
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The Right has been burning through ridiculous amounts of social capital and making themselves look like racist idiots since the beginning with the whole Birtherism thing. It's not only likely untrue, but makes it that much easier for the Left to portray the Right as a bunch of delusional, racist conspiracy theorists.

Similarly, social conservatives blew threw a ridiculous amount of social capital trying to suppress gays, and it didn't even work. You know why? Because gays are not, and were not, ever a threat to the long-term functioning of Western society. But because social conservatives spent so much effort fighting gays, they lost credibility on issues that actually might hurt the country for real.

Culture does matter, but the Traditionalists haven't done well at triageing it.

Trump is the product of a lot of uncatered-to voices and is beyond my ability to predict, so I won't comment on that.
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Postby Dinake » Tue May 31, 2016 1:50 pm

Staythefout wrote:Breitbart, Townhall, the Federalist, and National Review are pretty good...they've made a handful of errors I can think of "off hand" but nothing major.

Townhall is not a good source. They're a bunch of wingnuts with blogs. Not a news source, although they occasionally(emphasis on occasionally) have a decent op ed.
Breitbart has been getting better, but it's still not a great source.
The federalist and national review are pretty good though.
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Postby Dinake » Tue May 31, 2016 1:54 pm

Nayba Collective wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
It's just a really smug and pretentious saying.

"Reality has a left wing bias" is a simple way of saying "I'm right, because I stand with reality, and you're just delusional."

I am probably best summarized as a Centre-Left Nationalist, and I have to say that I agree. "Reality has a left-wing bias" is nothing but low-class bumper-sticker politicking. The phrase exists primarily for self-gratification, and should only be used for countering equally self-gratifying phrases like the one about "heart by 20, brain by 30".

Annorax wrote:These are conservative positions. Why wouldn't conservatives endorse Trump our call out Chairman Obama on his birth in Honolulu? I think what you are really asking is if there is an American conservative news outlet that book licks progressive Democrats in which case you will find none.
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The Right has been burning through ridiculous amounts of social capital and making themselves look like racist idiots since the beginning with the whole Birtherism thing. It's not only likely untrue, but makes it that much easier for the Left to portray the Right as a bunch of delusional, racist conspiracy theorists.

More specifically, they're not even mainstream conservative positions. Birtherism is the sedevacante of American conservatism; hated by non-birthers, especially those on the right that resent being associated with it, and so loony that other right wingers(who have to deal with it regularly) wouldn't tolerate it either.
The mainstream right loathes birtherism.
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Postby Hirota » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:02 am

I think we need to establish there are actually trustworthy news sources, before getting to the specifics of region and ideology.
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Postby Dejanic » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:25 am

Their isn't many, but there's hardly many trustworthy "liberal" news sources either. News sources are generally just shitty in the USA.
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Postby SaintB » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:41 am

If you want a trustworthy news source then don't look for one that has a political bias.
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Postby Dejanic » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:05 am

SaintB wrote:If you want a trustworthy news source then don't look for one that has a political bias.

They're all jokes in America, especially CNN. (Communist News Network).
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:52 am

I wouldn't really call any news source that is know to lean to any particular side "trustworthy".
The best way of getting news is to get it straight from the front of the cycle, i.e. Associated Press or Reuters, or to listen to news sources from all ends of the political spectrum and look for the details that match.
I also trust more stories done by a "biased" news source that show their own leanings in a bad light. I'm more likely to trust a source not afraid to criticise itself.

Also for stories inside a particular nation or demographic, I look for sources outside of it as well as inside of it, which is why Al Jazeera is a good news source for me because the different perspective helps to gain a better perspective, and may help identify biases that I hadn't noticed before.

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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:39 am

SaintB wrote:If you want a trustworthy news source then don't look for one that has a political bias.

Everything has political bias.

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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:41 am

Merizoc wrote:
SaintB wrote:If you want a trustworthy news source then don't look for one that has a political bias.

Everything has political bias.

Hence, no news sources are trustworthy.

Actually, what bias does the AP have?

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Postby Freefall11111 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:44 am

Alvecia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Everything has political bias.

Hence, no news sources are trustworthy.

Actually, what bias does the AP have?

Some might argue AP has a leftward bias, albeit one of the weakest ones around.

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Postby SaintB » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:45 am

Alvecia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Everything has political bias.

Hence, no news sources are trustworthy.

Actually, what bias does the AP have?

I work in news and AP and Ruetors really only report the facts. Its pretty dry reading.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:49 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Hence, no news sources are trustworthy.

Actually, what bias does the AP have?

Some might argue AP has a leftward bias, albeit one of the weakest ones around.

Huh, turns out there's a wiki section on it.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:52 am

Alvecia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Everything has political bias.

Hence, no news sources are trustworthy.

Actually, what bias does the AP have?

I never said that. Everything has bias, but that doesn't mean you can't rely on them. I could write you an essay about how anarchism is beneficial, 100% factual. Just because I have an opinion or agenda doesn't mean I'm not telling the truth.

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Postby Esternial » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:15 am

News sources, in my eyes, are to be taken with some skepticism.

The people that make news articles often do some interpreting themselves, either of events that have happened or studies or what have you. It's generally a good idea to do some further looking up yourself if it's about a topic you're really invested in rather than take it at face value.

I personally like Vice, myself.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:23 pm

The Financial Times is currently considered the most reliable of the business newspapers. Even more so than the Wall Street Journal. It is fairly conservative in outlook. There is a US edition which is different than the British edition.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:09 pm

Wait. Hold up for just a fucking second there, son. What was that first part? Or like, the whole thing?

American media? Major news publications in the actual USA?

The motherfucking New York Times?

Left-fucking-wing?

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Postby The East Marches » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:10 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:The Financial Times is currently considered the most reliable of the business newspapers. Even more so than the Wall Street Journal. It is fairly conservative in outlook. There is a US edition which is different than the British edition.


>The Financial Times
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Postby The East Marches » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:11 pm

Dejanic wrote:Their isn't many, but there's hardly many trustworthy "liberal" news sources either. News sources are generally just shitty in the USA.


Our TV news is trash but we have good quality papers. I've noticed the reverse of this situation in Great Britain.
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:13 pm

I'm a fan of Reason Magazine.

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:14 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Dinake wrote:Fox gets a bad rap, but it's not nearly as bad as people say. Of course, it's not exactly a pillar of journalistic integrity either, but if that's what you're looking for you shouldn't rely on cable news anyway. I suppose CNN comes closest, but even that isn't the greatest.
Better sources in the US are more print-type sources. Time, NYT, Forbes, Wall Street Journal, Reuters, Christian Science Monitor, etc. are all pretty good sources.

I forgot Forbes. They can be good but most of it is opinion. The business-oriented sources are generally the most reputable conservative ones.


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Postby Republic of the Cristo » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:14 pm

I thought the NY times were conservative. And really, there are only a select few news sources in America that have no bias ( eliminate every TV station right now ).
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