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Postby Targovia » Thu May 12, 2016 5:56 am

That seems rather callous.
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Postby Val Halla » Thu May 12, 2016 5:59 am

Why would anyone buy this?
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:05 am

Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?


if theres a market.....

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu May 12, 2016 6:06 am

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Oceara wrote:Shouldn't it be in some evidence locker somewhere? Weird they would give back a weapon that was part of an investigation, but then again I don't know a whole lot about the process of how evidence is handled after a case ends.


No, once the investigation/trial is over you can get your stuff back if you're found not guilty.


Yes, and I have no problem with that. Zimmerman was found not guilty, has no parole conditions of not owning a firearm, and legally owns the gun.

I wouldn't even mind if he sold it, privately (hopefully subject to background check, though Florida law doesn't require that for private sales). I wouldn't even mind if he sold it for above market value.

Publicly auctioning it, though. That's deliberately using his celebrity (or notoriety, same thing) to profit, and not accidentally, stirring up public opinion. Perhaps just profit-taking, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to increase his own celebrity/notoriety while also making a profit. Bad either way, in my opinion.

I know you're a strong advocate of the right to own guns, while I'm rather to the other side (not as far to my side as you are to your side). I can't expect too much agreement from you, but if I say Zimmerman's choice to publicly auction the gun speaks ill of him as a gun owner, maybe you'd agree?
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Postby Val Halla » Thu May 12, 2016 6:07 am

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Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?


if theres a market.....

Well it's not like you would want something associated with such negative history. And apparently it's overpriced too so
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 12, 2016 6:09 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No, once the investigation/trial is over you can get your stuff back if you're found not guilty.


Yes, and I have no problem with that. Zimmerman was found not guilty, has no parole conditions of not owning a firearm, and legally owns the gun.

I wouldn't even mind if he sold it, privately (hopefully subject to background check, though Florida law doesn't require that for private sales). I wouldn't even mind if he sold it for above market value.

Publicly auctioning it, though. That's deliberately using his celebrity (or notoriety, same thing) to profit, and not accidentally, stirring up public opinion. Perhaps just profit-taking, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to increase his own celebrity/notoriety while also making a profit. Bad either way, in my opinion.

I know you're a strong advocate of the right to own guns, while I'm rather to the other side (not as far to my side as you are to your side). I can't expect too much agreement from you, but if I say Zimmerman's choice to publicly auction the gun speaks ill of him as a gun owner, maybe you'd agree?


I'd more so say it speaks ill of him as a person really. I certainly understand why he would, because in all reality he's probably going to get a big check for it and money is a strong motivator but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:09 am

Val Halla wrote:
The balkens wrote:
if theres a market.....

Well it's not like you would want something associated with such negative history. And apparently it's overpriced too so


it is overpriced. but ive seen people pay for pieces of history, like german uniforms and weapons from the 2nd world war.

I myself own a few weird things....

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Postby Val Halla » Thu May 12, 2016 6:11 am

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Val Halla wrote:Well it's not like you would want something associated with such negative history. And apparently it's overpriced too so


it is overpriced. but ive seen people pay for pieces of history, like german uniforms and weapons from the 2nd world war.

I myself own a few weird things....

Yeah but that's fascinating history and there's a certain mystique to it.

This is just a gun some cop used to kill a kid.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 12, 2016 6:12 am

Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?

To hold while masturbating and wishing they could kill a black kid and get away with it.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:13 am

Val Halla wrote:
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it is overpriced. but ive seen people pay for pieces of history, like german uniforms and weapons from the 2nd world war.

I myself own a few weird things....

Yeah but that's fascinating history and there's a certain mystique to it.

This is just a gun some cop used to kill a kid.


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He wasn't a cop, fam.

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Postby Cymrea » Thu May 12, 2016 6:14 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:What, if anything, can and should be done about aquitted defendants profiting from their supposed crime?

*Johnnie Cochran voice* If the defendant was acquitted, there is no crime committed.

Profiting from artefacts of a case in which you were found not guilty maybe tasteless in the extreme - which, if the Kardashians are any indication, is perfectly acceptable in the United States - but it is not illegal.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?

To hold while masturbating and wishing they could kill a black kid and get away with it.


after the standing trail and founded not guilt by a jury.

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Postby AiliailiA » Thu May 12, 2016 6:16 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
Yes, and I have no problem with that. Zimmerman was found not guilty, has no parole conditions of not owning a firearm, and legally owns the gun.

I wouldn't even mind if he sold it, privately (hopefully subject to background check, though Florida law doesn't require that for private sales). I wouldn't even mind if he sold it for above market value.

Publicly auctioning it, though. That's deliberately using his celebrity (or notoriety, same thing) to profit, and not accidentally, stirring up public opinion. Perhaps just profit-taking, or perhaps a deliberate attempt to increase his own celebrity/notoriety while also making a profit. Bad either way, in my opinion.

I know you're a strong advocate of the right to own guns, while I'm rather to the other side (not as far to my side as you are to your side). I can't expect too much agreement from you, but if I say Zimmerman's choice to publicly auction the gun speaks ill of him as a gun owner, maybe you'd agree?


I'd more so say it speaks ill of him as a person really. I certainly understand why he would, because in all reality he's probably going to get a big check for it and money is a strong motivator but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do.


Point of agreement then. I'm satisfied. :)
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:17 am

Ailiailia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'd more so say it speaks ill of him as a person really. I certainly understand why he would, because in all reality he's probably going to get a big check for it and money is a strong motivator but I still think it's a pretty scummy thing to do.


The pistol is also pretty shit I hear.


Point of agreement then. I'm satisfied. :)

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Postby Dakini » Thu May 12, 2016 6:17 am

Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?

Racism.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 12, 2016 6:18 am

The balkens wrote:The pistol is also pretty shit I hear.


I can tell you a PF-9 sure as shit isn't worth five grand or more. Those are low end transferable machine gun prices.
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Postby Daemonicai » Thu May 12, 2016 6:22 am

Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?


For the +2 racial damage bonus.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu May 12, 2016 6:23 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The balkens wrote:The pistol is also pretty shit I hear.


I can tell you a PF-9 sure as shit isn't worth five grand or more. Those are low end transferable machine gun prices.

If I was paying that much for a gun I'd want it to fire magic bullets that go back in time and kill Hitler.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu May 12, 2016 6:26 am

If he gets shot with his own gun, he'll only have himself to blame.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 12, 2016 6:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I can tell you a PF-9 sure as shit isn't worth five grand or more. Those are low end transferable machine gun prices.

If I was paying that much for a gun I'd want it to fire magic bullets that go back in time and kill Hitler.


To be fair, the only reason machine guns cost that much is because there's only a limited number of them and no more (unless the ATF is in a mood to disregard the law like it's done a few times) can enter the civilian market. This piece of junk on the other hand shouldn't go for more than $250. Max.

It'll be interesting to see just how much it sells for.
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Postby Jolthig » Thu May 12, 2016 6:30 am

Rather silly, but whatever he wants. Whatever makes him happy.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu May 12, 2016 6:31 am

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Val Halla wrote:Yeah but that's fascinating history and there's a certain mystique to it.

This is just a gun some cop used to kill a kid.


...


He wasn't a cop, fam.


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Postby Herskerstad » Thu May 12, 2016 6:32 am

Ifreann wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I can tell you a PF-9 sure as shit isn't worth five grand or more. Those are low end transferable machine gun prices.

If I was paying that much for a gun I'd want it to fire magic bullets that go back in time and kill Hitler.


Shame they did so one minute before he'd actually commit suicide.
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Postby Herskerstad » Thu May 12, 2016 6:33 am

Dakini wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Why would anyone buy this?

Racism.


It would not be beyond a BLM supporter to get this gun and use it as their version of the spear of longinus.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 6:38 am

Herskerstad wrote:
The balkens wrote:
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He wasn't a cop, fam.


Didn't you know? Each time a vaguely white person kills an African American, they get drafted into the police service on the spot.


White privilege at work.

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