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Is the BBC disriminating white people who want an internship?

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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:34 am

Braecland wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:...you really think Britain somehow just brushed off all that deep-seated racism from its culture, society, and institutions?

This is the same country where a major national party had candidates elected to Parliament not even half a century ago, with the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Lolnah.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20210842
http://www.errc.org/article/institution ... he-uk/1191
http://socialistreview.org.uk/366/racis ... nstitution

That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?


Not really.

Still lots of animosity between people over what needs to be done.

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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:35 am

The Grene Knyght wrote:
Braecland wrote:That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?

Institutional racism is a fact in pretty much every western country. If you don't believe that you're deluding yourself because thinking is hard and you don't want to do it.


how?

how in every western country? is it because western countries tend to be majority white?

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Postby Alvecia » Thu May 12, 2016 4:35 am

The balkens wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Are you going somewhere with this?


not really, seeing that I never take topics like this seriously is because they normally devolve into two types of cancer.

one being "Whites today are solely guilty of slavery and should face justice" type of cancer that SOCJUS extremists and black panther wannabes these days LOVE to shout.
and the other cancer where (while just as common), a racist guy said that "it was justified" and gets everyone riled up at each other.

Sooo, you're just gonna derail the conversation for fun?

It's also good to know for future reference to never engage you on the topic of racism because you refuse to discuss it seriously.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 12, 2016 4:36 am

The balkens wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Institutional racism is a fact in pretty much every western country. If you don't believe that you're deluding yourself because thinking is hard and you don't want to do it.


how?

how in every western country? is it because western countries tend to be majority white?

Each country isn't its own bubble. Hundreds of years of Western imperialism and colonialism have had global ramifications.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 12, 2016 4:37 am

Braecland wrote:That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?

I subscribe to demonstrable truth, statistical evidence, and recorded proof. Logic, reason, all that neurological shit. And saying institutional racism does not exist is simply full-fledged conscious denial, at this point.

And yeah, I know. You just can't get real acid anymore.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:38 am

Alvecia wrote:
The balkens wrote:
not really, seeing that I never take topics like this seriously is because they normally devolve into two types of cancer.

one being "Whites today are solely guilty of slavery and should face justice" type of cancer that SOCJUS extremists and black panther wannabes these days LOVE to shout.
and the other cancer where (while just as common), a racist guy said that "it was justified" and gets everyone riled up at each other.

Sooo, you're just gonna derail the conversation for fun?

It's also good to know for future reference to never engage you on the topic of racism because you refuse to discuss it seriously.


ill discuss it seriously, but not to people with garbage opinions.

take the notion that "you cant be racist against whites" for example that is the prevailing notions amongst far left circles these days. You cannot honestly hold a debate with someone like that because they are so entrenched in that position.

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Postby Vassenor » Thu May 12, 2016 4:39 am

The balkens wrote:Take the notion that "you cant be racist against whites" for example that is the prevailing notions amongst far left circles these days. You cannot honestly hold a debate with someone like that because they are so entrenched in that position.


Is it really a prevailing notion? Last time I checked tumblr is not really a representative sample.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu May 12, 2016 4:39 am

The balkens wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Sooo, you're just gonna derail the conversation for fun?

It's also good to know for future reference to never engage you on the topic of racism because you refuse to discuss it seriously.


ill discuss it seriously, but not to people with garbage opinions.

take the notion that "you cant be racist against whites" for example that is the prevailing notions amongst far left circles these days. You cannot honestly hold a debate with someone like that because they are so entrenched in that position.

Convenient then, that you get to decide what is garbage and what is not.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:40 am

Arumdaum wrote:
The balkens wrote:
how?

how in every western country? is it because western countries tend to be majority white?

Each country isn't its own bubble. Hundreds of years of Western imperialism and colonialism have had global ramifications.


Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu May 12, 2016 4:42 am

The balkens wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Are you going somewhere with this?


not really, seeing that I never take topics like this seriously is because they normally devolve into two types of cancer.

one being "Whites today are solely guilty of slavery and should face justice" type of cancer that SOCJUS extremists and black panther wannabes these days LOVE to shout.
and the other cancer where (while just as common), a racist guy said that "it was justified" and gets everyone riled up at each other.


Well, you're the one who brought it up in the first place...

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 12, 2016 4:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
The balkens wrote:Take the notion that "you cant be racist against whites" for example that is the prevailing notions amongst far left circles these days. You cannot honestly hold a debate with someone like that because they are so entrenched in that position.

Is it really a prevailing notion? Last time I checked tumblr is not really a representative sample.

It's steadily becoming more and more common, but I don't think it's the dominant opinion - in the far-left community, or on Tumblr.

Weird things to equate, in my opinion, because Tumblr is not dominated by the far-left. *shrugs* Vast majority of people you see on there, without searching out specific ideologies, are just run-of-the-mill socdem "progressive" liberals.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
The balkens wrote:Take the notion that "you cant be racist against whites" for example that is the prevailing notions amongst far left circles these days. You cannot honestly hold a debate with someone like that because they are so entrenched in that position.


Is it really a prevailing notion? Last time I checked tumblr is not really a representative sample.


Tumblr is its own ameba of batshit insanity that probably shat itself when it found out 4Chan was raiding it, but I find that opinion on here as well among some people.

they've gotten that line of bullshit somewhere.

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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:44 am

The Rich Port wrote:
The balkens wrote:
not really, seeing that I never take topics like this seriously is because they normally devolve into two types of cancer.

one being "Whites today are solely guilty of slavery and should face justice" type of cancer that SOCJUS extremists and black panther wannabes these days LOVE to shout.
and the other cancer where (while just as common), a racist guy said that "it was justified" and gets everyone riled up at each other.


Well, you're the one who brought it up in the first place...


and I apologize to you, rich. my minion protégé.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 12, 2016 4:46 am

The balkens wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Each country isn't its own bubble. Hundreds of years of Western imperialism and colonialism have had global ramifications.


Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

You know, we could talk about the evils of the Dzungar Genocide during the Qing dynasty and Imperial Japan's actions during practically its entire existence, but not only does that not have much to do with the current discussion at hand, but also I doubt you really care about the plight of a largely eradicated ethnic group you probably just heard about for the first time, Koreans, the Ainu, and the Chinese.

It's the same when men in the West complain about how feminism shouldn't criticize the West and should criticize places like the Middle East - I doubt they really care about the rights of women in the Middle East. It's only so that they themselves won't receive criticism.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:48 am

Arumdaum wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

You know, we could talk about the evils of the Dzungar Genocide during the Qing dynasty and Imperial Japan's actions during practically its entire existence, but not only does that not have much to do with the current discussion at hand, but also I doubt you really care about the plight of a largely eradicated ethnic group you probably just heard about for the first time, Koreans, the Ainu, and the Chinese.

It's the same when men in the West complain about how feminism shouldn't criticize the West and should criticize places like the Middle East - I doubt they really care about the rights of women in the Middle East. It's only so that they themselves won't receive criticism.


as a card carrying member of the patriarchy resent that.

Also

>Largely eradicated groups
>Chinese
>1 billion in China alone.

Unless you don't count the various ethnic that reside in the PRC.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 12, 2016 4:52 am

The balkens wrote:Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

But did they conquer +75% of the planet? Genocide and enslave four more continents of people than they knew existed prior to exploration? Practice centuries of subjugation and oppression on the natives of these continents in every way imaginable? Banning blacks from learning to read, outlawing the traditions and religious practices of Native Americans until the 1970's, hunting Native Australians for sport and chasing them out of their villages and off cliffs, kidnapping Native American and Australian children from their homes and beating their old culture out of them in a form of genocide requiring less soldiers, biological warfare through purposefully spreading fatal disease, wiping out uncounted cultures and people groups in pursuit of wealth and power, dominating the international political and military stage for the past numerable centuries to this very day?
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:54 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The balkens wrote:Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

But did they conquer +75% of the planet? Genocide and enslave four more continents of people than they knew existed prior to exploration? Practice centuries of subjugation and oppression on the natives of these continents in every way imaginable? Banning blacks from learning to read, hunting Native Australians for sport and chasing them out of their villages and off cliffs, biological warfare through purposefully spreading fatal disease, wiping out uncounted cultures and people groups in pursuit of wealth and power, dominating the international political and military stage for the past numerable centuries to this very day?


and they surely MUST be punished.

*nods

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 12, 2016 4:57 am

The balkens wrote:and they surely MUST be punished.

*nods

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 12, 2016 4:58 am

The balkens wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:You know, we could talk about the evils of the Dzungar Genocide during the Qing dynasty and Imperial Japan's actions during practically its entire existence, but not only does that not have much to do with the current discussion at hand, but also I doubt you really care about the plight of a largely eradicated ethnic group you probably just heard about for the first time, Koreans, the Ainu, and the Chinese.

It's the same when men in the West complain about how feminism shouldn't criticize the West and should criticize places like the Middle East - I doubt they really care about the rights of women in the Middle East. It's only so that they themselves won't receive criticism.


as a card carrying member of the patriarchy resent that.

Also

>Largely eradicated groups
>Chinese
>1 billion in China alone.

Unless you don't count the various ethnic that reside in the PRC.

Did you even bother to read my post correctly?

If so, you may have seen the word "Dzungar" somewhere in there.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 4:58 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The balkens wrote:and they surely MUST be punished.

*nods

I, for one, welcome our new well-pigmented overlords.


I'd rather be dead.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu May 12, 2016 5:00 am

Arumdaum wrote:It's the same when men in the West complain about how feminism shouldn't criticize the West and should criticize places like the Middle East - I doubt they really care about the rights of women in the Middle East. It's only so that they themselves won't receive criticism.

Like how the GOP says we need to look at mental health rather than gun control after a shooting - which would be a fine idea, except they don't actually give a shit about mental health. They just don't want people talking about gun control.

It's blatant deflection.
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Postby The balkens » Thu May 12, 2016 5:01 am

Arumdaum wrote:
The balkens wrote:
as a card carrying member of the patriarchy resent that.

Also

>Largely eradicated groups
>Chinese
>1 billion in China alone.

Unless you don't count the various ethnic that reside in the PRC.

Did you even bother to read my post correctly?

If so, you may have seen the word "Dzungar" somewhere in there.


I also saw Korean and Chinese.

said "that was odd."

and made a post that corresponded with it.

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Postby Arumdaum » Thu May 12, 2016 5:03 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The balkens wrote:and they surely MUST be punished.

*nods

I, for one, welcome our new well-pigmented overlords.

Glad to be part of the new world order. B)
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Postby HMS Vanguard » Thu May 12, 2016 5:10 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The balkens wrote:Why only western imperialism?

pretty sure that the Chinese and several eastern empires did some shady shit too.

But did they conquer +75% of the planet? Genocide and enslave four more continents of people than they knew existed prior to exploration? Practice centuries of subjugation and oppression on the natives of these continents in every way imaginable? Banning blacks from learning to read, outlawing the traditions and religious practices of Native Americans until the 1970's, hunting Native Australians for sport and chasing them out of their villages and off cliffs, kidnapping Native American and Australian children from their homes and beating their old culture out of them in a form of genocide requiring less soldiers, biological warfare through purposefully spreading fatal disease, wiping out uncounted cultures and people groups in pursuit of wealth and power, dominating the international political and military stage for the past numerable centuries to this very day?

It's amazing how these tremendously powerful and evil people seem to have ended up defeated on every front.

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Postby Stormopolis » Thu May 12, 2016 5:51 am

So in the process of trying to attain equality, you are actively promoting making something else less equal, inherently belying your own purpose. I didn't notice this before, but this place is full of regressive leftists. It hurts. It hurts so bad.
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