BBC Discrimination Against White People?

[The Rich Port]

*sighs*

Okay. Look at it this way: That's like a white person climbing up and stomping all over a black person, just beating him to absolute shit, in order to reach a ledge above. Then, once the white person is comfortably sitting, immobile, on top of this ledge, the black person asks if maybe he could get some help climbing up there. The white person, however, maintains this would be unfair - he should climb up the ledge on his own! And after all, the white guy isn't actively forcing his black associate to stay below the ledge. Helping him up would be just as wrong!

Did that come out coherently?

Question, how did the black guy get there in the first place?

Well, in a historical sense, slavery, or colonialism.

[Atlanticatia]

Such a stupid photo.

Positive racism has continuously and repeatedly failed to bring anyone to a higher level ad only given people like Trump support.

Why are black college rates so poor, when affirmative action has been around for 30+ years? Well I'm not racist, so I don't think it's intrinsic, but affirmative actions attempts to take unquantifiable problem and then create a quantified solution based on nothing other than feel-good sentimentality. It never focuses on the core issues - primary education, social mobility, income etc. that have kept minorities in generational poverty.

Equal opportunity should be more important than equal representation imo.

This is equal opportunity. Minority students do not have an equal opportunity as compared to white students. Therefore, ameliorate measures are needed to ensure equity.

Plus representation is important, especially at a media organisation. Certainly having a diverse range of perspectives at the BBC is a good thing, as the UK's public broadcaster should reflect....the public?

[Alvecia]

You're assuming that all peoples start from even ground. If blacks are disproportionately hindered or discriminated against when, for example, looking for jobs, then an organisation to help them would effectively cancel out the discrimination leaving a net discrimination output of 0.

Of course, that's not how it works in real life, but it's the intention.

But its good for diversity, so its fine.

It's technically definitionally discrimination, but it doesn't work like that practically.
IRL it's more like a charity. Charities only give to the poor, are they therefore discriminating against the rich? I suppose you could technically define it as such if you squint, but in the end it's giving help to those who need it. Just so happens that the people they are maybe technically discriminating against don't need it.

[Alvecia]

Equal opportunity should be more important than equal representation imo.

This is equal opportunity. Minority students do not have an equal opportunity as compared to white students. Therefore, ameliorate measures are needed to ensure equity.

Plus representation is important, especially at a media organisation. Certainly having a diverse range of perspectives at the BBC is a good thing, as the UK's public broadcaster should reflect....the public?

I don't disagree with what the recruitment agency is doing, and yes I do think that minority representation is key, I just think equal opportunity is more important than equal representation. Both are still very important.

[Allet Klar Chefs]

The concept of BBC not just fetishes an ultramasculine image of black men, but is discriminatory to those white who can't "live up" to the porn-adjusted expectations of modern women and indeed themselves, so yes, OP.

[Alvecia]

The concept of BBC not just fetishes an ultramasculine image of black men, but is discriminatory to those white who can't "live up" to the porn-adjusted expectations of modern women and indeed themselves, so yes, OP.

I'm surprised it took this long for a dick joke.

[The balkens]

Question, how did the black guy get there in the first place?

Well, in a historical sense, slavery, or colonialism.

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It's a valid point.

No it isn't.

A blacks-only university? Awesome! All the power to them!

Absolutely. We've kept them out of our own for centuries now, and racism is still ingrained in any given white institution.

A whites-only university? YOU RACIST BASTARDS! WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS? APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA?

We don't need our own universities. We dominate the best schools, get the best educations, are the ones considered for the best jobs. We had blacks in fucking chains a century and a half ago. You really don't see the difference here?

If you're REALLY for a level playing field, you'll stop discriminating positively.

In a three course meal with three white people and one black, if the whites are all served for the first two courses while the black is not, serving the black while not serving the whites in the third course is good and necessary because it is a step toward equality. Not serving anyone, or serving everyone, leaves the white people just as far ahead as ever.

Because by positively discriminating you're still discriminating. Or isn't that bad because it's against whites.

It is in order to achieve base societal equality. I want people of every amount of melanin and ethnicity to be on equal terms overall. For that to be, we must close the gap resulting from white people's headstart.

Against who, as it is known, can be no racism because they have everything and we have nothing as non-whites.

To put it simply: White people have advantages across society and its institutions resulting from racially-discriminatory tendencies ingrained in our culture for centuries.

I am trying to be polite and help you understand, but if you are only going to refuse donning even the thinnest veil of maturity and trying to comprehend my argument and the not-overly-complicated concepts behind it, let me know, so I do not waste my time.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Well, in a historical sense, slavery, or colonialism.

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

Holy Mother of God.

Are you saying blacks deserve racism because they "did it to themselves" or some such racist fucking bullshit?

[Arumdaum]

Well, in a historical sense, slavery, or colonialism.

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

Why not provide actual substance to the discussion?

[The balkens]

Absolutely. We've kept them out of our own for centuries now, and racism is still ingrained in any given white institution.

Ah yes, ingrained.

and white institutions like what?

killblacks.com?

[The balkens]

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

Holy Mother of God.

Are you saying blacks deserve racism because they "did it to themselves" or some such racist fucking bullshit?

Oh ge, fam.

where did I ever imply that?

all I did say is that a fucking trade took fucking place.

did I ever say that the black guy had it coming?

did I say that the INHERENTLY superior white man has a right to enslave his lesser because a giant asshole up in the sky who granted wishes whispered into his ear saying "enslave that black dude, Fam."?

[Aulerania]

Absolutely. We've kept them out of our own for centuries now, and racism is still ingrained in any given white institution.

Ah yes, ingrained.

and white institutions like what?

killniggers.com?

-.-

[Braecland]

Equal opportunity should be more important than equal representation imo.

This is equal opportunity. Minority students do not have an equal opportunity as compared to white students. Therefore, ameliorate measures are needed to ensure equity.

Plus representation is important, especially at a media organisation. Certainly having a diverse range of perspectives at the BBC is a good thing, as the UK's public broadcaster should reflect....the public?

Yes they do.... I assume we're still talking about the UK

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Ah yes, ingrained.

It means firmly established, or deep-seated.

and white institutions like what?

killniggers.com?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_g ... ted_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enfor ... ted_States

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Oh ge, fam.

where did I ever imply that?

all I did say is that a fucking trade took fucking place.

did I ever say that the black guy had it coming?

did I say that the INHERENTLY superior white man has a right to enslave his lesser because a giant asshole up in the sky who granted wishes whispered into his ear saying "enslave that black dude, Fam."?

I think it's in my own best interest to digress from this thread of conversation.

[The balkens]

Ah yes, ingrained.

It means firmly established, or deep-seated.

and white institutions like what?

killniggers.com?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_g ... ted_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_enfor ... ted_States

The federal government?

which probably is headed by a biracial man with the DOJ headed by a black woman?

which had historically passed laws affirming the civil rights of blacks in this country after several campaigns? and has made strides to uplift black people with certain initiatives?

I mean, if that's ingrained racism, I'd hate to see what you think of white families.

[The Rich Port]

Well, in a historical sense, slavery, or colonialism.

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

There existed, according to many colonialists, a sort of "whiter shade of black" folk whom they considered closer to whitehood compared to truly black people.

Tutsis, Arab Africans, African Romans, the Ethiopians, all fulfilled this role.

It doesn't make the struggle of black folk overseas any easier.

Especially considering slavery in African continues to this day in some countries.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

This is equal opportunity. Minority students do not have an equal opportunity as compared to white students. Therefore, ameliorate measures are needed to ensure equity.

Plus representation is important, especially at a media organisation. Certainly having a diverse range of perspectives at the BBC is a good thing, as the UK's public broadcaster should reflect....the public?

Yes they do.... I assume we're still talking about the UK

...you really think Britain somehow just brushed off all that deep-seated racism from its culture, society, and institutions?

This is the same country where a major national party had candidates elected to Parliament not even half a century ago, with the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Lolnah.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20210842
http://www.errc.org/article/institution ... he-uk/1191
http://socialistreview.org.uk/366/racis ... nstitution

[The balkens]

so he got traded by other black people to the white guy?

There existed, according to many colonialists, a sort of "whiter shade of black" folk whom they considered closer to whitehood compared to truly black people.

Tutsis, Arab Africans, African Romans, the Ethiopians, all fulfilled this role.

It doesn't make the struggle of black folk overseas any easier.

Especially considering slavery in African continues to this day in some countries.

That kind of slavery that is till being practiced is hard to get rid of, even if the UN writes a sternly written letter or two.

[Alvecia]

There existed, according to many colonialists, a sort of "whiter shade of black" folk whom they considered closer to whitehood compared to truly black people.

Tutsis, Arab Africans, African Romans, the Ethiopians, all fulfilled this role.

It doesn't make the struggle of black folk overseas any easier.

Especially considering slavery in African continues to this day in some countries.

That kind of slavery that is till being practiced is hard to get rid of, even if the UN writes a sternly written letter or two.

Are you going somewhere with this?

[Braecland]

Yes they do.... I assume we're still talking about the UK

...you really think Britain somehow just brushed off all that deep-seated racism from its culture, society, and institutions?

This is the same country where a major national party had candidates elected to Parliament not even half a century ago, with the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Lolnah.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20210842
http://www.errc.org/article/institution ... he-uk/1191
http://socialistreview.org.uk/366/racis ... nstitution

That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?

[The balkens]

That kind of slavery that is till being practiced is hard to get rid of, even if the UN writes a sternly written letter or two.

Are you going somewhere with this?

not really, seeing that I never take topics like this seriously is because they normally devolve into two types of cancer.

one being "Whites today are solely guilty of slavery and should face justice" type of cancer that SOCJUS extremists and black panther wannabes these days LOVE to shout.
and the other cancer where (while just as common), a racist guy said that "it was justified" and gets everyone riled up at each other.

[Vassenor]

...you really think Britain somehow just brushed off all that deep-seated racism from its culture, society, and institutions?

This is the same country where a major national party had candidates elected to Parliament not even half a century ago, with the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Lolnah.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20210842
http://www.errc.org/article/institution ... he-uk/1191
http://socialistreview.org.uk/366/racis ... nstitution

That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?

Not really.

[The Grene Knyght]

...you really think Britain somehow just brushed off all that deep-seated racism from its culture, society, and institutions?

This is the same country where a major national party had candidates elected to Parliament not even half a century ago, with the slogan "if you want a nigger for a neighbour, vote Labour"?

Lolnah.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-20210842
http://www.errc.org/article/institution ... he-uk/1191
http://socialistreview.org.uk/366/racis ... nstitution

That's all well and good if you subscribe to the head in the clouds "institutional racism" bollocks, a lot has changed since the 60s, you know that?

Institutional racism is a fact in pretty much every western country. If you don't believe that you're deluding yourself because thinking is hard and you don't want to do it.