Knife attack in Munich, 1 dead - Islamism or not?

[Braecland]

Skeptisism yes, but when they are misbehaving, they require different amounts of criticism proportionate to the negativity the create.

All religions are NOT the same, do I really need to explain this to you? A thousand years ago, Christianity and Islam were THE problem religions, now it's just Islam.

My one-up was supporting people regardless of their beliefs, not because of them.

Sorry I didn't properly stager the quotes, I'm on my new phone and I haven't quite figured it out yet.

Edit: granted, I did misread the frist point, I know you don't really mean it

I think Islam is easier to go wrong than some other religions. That doesn't mean that it's okay to discriminate against Muslims.

You're right, it absolutely doesn't. Then again, I didn't say it was.... In fact, no one here did.

[Kubumba Tribe]

"Some scholars theorize that Bantu speaking people had moved south from around the Benue River in western Africa into south-central Africa. By the 900s, the pastoral and Hamitic speaking Tutsi were migrating southward, into east-central Africa, to Rwanda , near Ukerewe , in centuries to come to be known as Lake Victoria. There, it is said, the Tutsi introduced cattle raising, iron-working, new crops, kingship and caste divisions. The people whom the Tutsi overran were Bantu speakers - the Hutu - and the Tutsi made vassals of some of the Hutu, giving them cattle in exchange for services and loyalty.


Before the 1100s agriculture was practiced in much of south-central Africa, except in the interior of southern Angola , close to the Kalahari Desert . In south-central Africa, bananas were grown. This was tropical woodland and savana, where yams and sugar cane were grown. Beans, groundnuts, sorghum and other millets were cultivated in areas of savanna. And people augmented their food production by hunting, fishing, gathering grubs and by raising chickens, pigs and, in a few places, cattle. There was also pottery making, wickerwork and salt production. At Munza were iron mines. People in this region of Africa preferred using salt and metal, including copper, as currency for trading. By the 1300s, communities in Katanga were uniting into a kingdom of farmers, fishermen and crafts people, and they were trading in dry fish and products made of metal.


In some of the more remote parts of south-central Africa were villages that were still egalitarian, but in the more densely populated areas monarchs had arisen. These monarchs associated their rule with spirits, and their rule was supported by rituals and priests not totally removed from sorcery, divination, healing and fertility rites. And those supporting monarchical rule believed in the sacredness of lineage and royal blood of their monarchs. A monarch had underlings who advised him and went with him in his visits to the villages where he claimed rule. He had the keepers of emblems, a military chief and warriors to support his rule. He had slaves. And from his subjects the monarch received taxes with which to maintain his operation and to buy what he needed to maintain what he considered an appropriate lifestyle.


By the 1400s small empires thrived in south-central Africa. One was centered at Luba . Another was centered at Lunda - where, it appears, people learned metal working from Luba. A third empire was centered in the kingdom of the Kongo , which dominated areas such as Loango , Kakong , Ngoi and Kisama ."

This is in South Central Afrika.

By the 1100s virtually all of Europe practiced agriculture and had for quite some time, it goes back even farther back in Asia and North Africa. Saying that Africa had Agriculture in the 1100s hardly makes it advanced. Fishing was practiced for a long time in Europe and Asia by that time as well.

Having spiritualism and other superstitions hardly speaks of advanced societies to me. Since sorcery , divination, and most healing and fertility rites did not actually work it is hardly a sign of advancement. Eurasia had these things to but they were backwards compared to today as well.

Metal working was common in Eurasia long before 1400. Face it, screwed by geography Sub-Saharan Africa was a technological backwater for thousands of years.

It says south central Afrika had that before the 1100s. And the spiritualism is just their traditional religion. I don't consider religion modern nor ancient.

[Purple Robed Empire]

By the 1100s virtually all of Europe practiced agriculture and had for quite some time, it goes back even farther back in Asia and North Africa. Saying that Africa had Agriculture in the 1100s hardly makes it advanced. Fishing was practiced for a long time in Europe and Asia by that time as well.

Having spiritualism and other superstitions hardly speaks of advanced societies to me. Since sorcery , divination, and most healing and fertility rites did not actually work it is hardly a sign of advancement. Eurasia had these things to but they were backwards compared to today as well.

Metal working was common in Eurasia long before 1400. Face it, screwed by geography Sub-Saharan Africa was a technological backwater for thousands of years.

It says south central Afrika had that before the 1100s. And the spiritualism is just their traditional religion. I don't consider religion modern nor ancient.

Not too much before or it would have said that. I doubt more than a century or two, Eurasia had agriculture for a couple thousand years by that time. Why mention Spiritualism at all then when you are trying to prove how modern medieval Africa was? It would be like me bringing up the Amish when trying to prove how advanced the US is. Irrelevant at best and disproving the point at worst.

[Kubumba Tribe]

It says south central Afrika had that before the 1100s. And the spiritualism is just their traditional religion. I don't consider religion modern nor ancient.

Not too much before or it would have said that. I doubt more than a century or two, Eurasia had agriculture for a couple thousand years by that time. Why mention Spiritualism at all then when you are trying to prove how modern medieval Africa was? It would be like me bringing up the Amish when trying to prove how advanced the US is. Irrelevant at best and disproving the point at worst.

What's wrong with showing the religion? I can see now it doesn't really show much, but still.

[Purple Robed Empire]

Not too much before or it would have said that. I doubt more than a century or two, Eurasia had agriculture for a couple thousand years by that time. Why mention Spiritualism at all then when you are trying to prove how modern medieval Africa was? It would be like me bringing up the Amish when trying to prove how advanced the US is. Irrelevant at best and disproving the point at worst.

What's wrong with showing the religion? I can see now it doesn't really show much, but still.

Because it is irrelevant? Putting it in there makes it appear as one of your arguments. If you don't want to confuse people don't make irrelevant statements.

[Kubumba Tribe]

What's wrong with showing the religion? I can see now it doesn't really show much, but still.

Because it is irrelevant? Putting it in there makes it appear as one of your arguments. If you don't want to confuse people don't make irrelevant statements.

Oh ok.

[Stormopolis]

Actually, there is no such thing as a 'white language'. It's an Indo-European language spoken by mostly Afrikaner people, who usually are white, but languages don't inherently have some colour. It's like me saying 'Scots is a blue language' or 'Russian is a red language'.

Are we talking about smurfs now? You don't get the point I'm making at all, do you?

Largely fundamentalists. Christians did that a long time ago, and then got over it. Soon, Islam will do the same.

Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Please give me the time schedule. You honestly think a culture that has been stagnant for 700 years other than the appropriation of technology to further spread its disgusting bile or better kill others will become enlightened at some point?

2) There was a little happening called the Enlightenment. It changed a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot about Christianity.

As did the Islamic Golden Age... Such a shame that Westerners had to reverse that, eh? Though, to be honest, I think that Fundamentalist Christians are attempting to reverse the enlightenment sometimes...

Again. Picketing funerals of gays =/= the same as blowing yourself up.

Not to mention that Israeli soldiers have killed 7 times as many Palestinians as they have Israelis. Yep - very equal battles being fought there.

Israeli soldiers are given superior training. Superior weaponry. Why is it that palestinians (which do not even exist, but let's not get into this talk right now) continuously lose and yet still get to bitch about it? Don't pick a fight you can't win. Besides, Israel can't ever win with people like you. If they take no precautions, they're beasts. If they do take precautions, they're pussies.
Here, take a look at this: http://www.unwatch.org/un-to-adopt-20-r ... the-world/
Also, I'd like to add one thing: If palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel laid down its weapons, they would be dead tomorrow.

Trying to deny that the Islamic Golden Age existed is like trying to deny that the Enlightenment existed. Though I mentioned my point of view on that too...

Again. What they claim is the islamic golden age with baghdad as its center was not just islamic "scientists." (hah, that's rich.)
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/How_Islamic_ ... _The_World

@kubumba:

You know in how much of a rare situation you are? You have some sort of pity shield given to you by the regressive left. If I said I was pro Israel anywhere, they'd call me a yehudi dog or a zionist pig. But you...you...You somehow get to say you are proud to be in favor of murderers. But that won't last, you know. A change is coming. When Europe falls, (thanks to Coudenhove Kalergi and his plan, https://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013/10 ... of-europe/), not even the most regressive leftists can deny what islam really is. Sadly, I won't be there to see the confused look of those people when they get their heads chopped off themselves, since I'm rightwing and smart. They do hate those people. You know what white people are who defend islam? Appeasing idiots who think that feeding the crocodile will not get them eaten. Wrong. Feeding the crocodile will only get them eaten last.

[Zoice]

I think Islam is easier to go wrong than some other religions. That doesn't mean that it's okay to discriminate against Muslims.

You're right, it absolutely doesn't. Then again, I didn't say it was.... In fact, no one here did.

It deserves being repeated given how many would disagree.

[Communist Xomaniax]

As did the Islamic Golden Age... Such a shame that Westerners had to reverse that, eh? Though, to be honest, I think that Fundamentalist Christians are attempting to reverse the enlightenment sometimes...

Again. Picketing funerals of gays =/= the same as blowing yourself up.

Did somebody really just say that the West ended the Islamic Golden Age? I wasn't aware Mongols were Westerners.

[The balkens]

Again. Picketing funerals of gays =/= the same as blowing yourself up.

Did somebody really just say that the West ended the Islamic Golden Age? I wasn't aware Mongols were Westerners.

BASED GENGHIS.

[Communist Xomaniax]

Did somebody really just say that the West ended the Islamic Golden Age? I wasn't aware Mongols were Westerners.

BASED GENGHIS.

Hulagu Khan was a proud white man

[Internationalist Bastard]

Doesn't seem well organized enough to be part of a group. Lone Mujaheddin maybe.

[The balkens]

BASED GENGHIS.

Hulagu Khan was a proud white man

and that rape culture!

[Keshokif]

Actually, there is no such thing as a 'white language'. It's an Indo-European language spoken by mostly Afrikaner people, who usually are white, but languages don't inherently have some colour. It's like me saying 'Scots is a blue language' or 'Russian is a red language'.

Are we talking about smurfs now? You don't get the point I'm making at all, do you?

It is called poking fun. You should try it some time. Actually, no. Disregard that.

Largely fundamentalists. Christians did that a long time ago, and then got over it. Soon, Islam will do the same.

Oh, I'm looking forward to that. Please give me the time schedule. You honestly think a culture that has been stagnant for 700 years other than the appropriation of technology to further spread its disgusting bile or better kill others will become enlightened at some point?

Stagnant for 700 years? You know nothing, Jon Stormopolis.

As did the Islamic Golden Age... Such a shame that Westerners had to reverse that, eh? Though, to be honest, I think that Fundamentalist Christians are attempting to reverse the enlightenment sometimes...

Again. Picketing funerals of gays =/= the same as blowing yourself up.

Where in that entire quote did I say that they were the same? I said that Christian fundamentalists seem to be trying to reverse the enlightenment, which, when you see the teaching of creationism as science in schools and their disregard for proper science, isn't too far away from the truth.

Not to mention that Israeli soldiers have killed 7 times as many Palestinians as they have Israelis. Yep - very equal battles being fought there.

Israeli soldiers are given superior training. Superior weaponry.

Yes. Superior training and weaponry. That obviously makes it even.

Why is it that palestinians (which do not even exist, but let's not get into this talk right now) continuously lose and yet still get to bitch about it? Don't pick a fight you can't win. Besides, Israel can't ever win with people like you. If they take no precautions, they're beasts. If they do take precautions, they're pussies.

So, killing many innocent people is a precaution? Answer - no, it is not. It is genocide. It is murder for murder's sake.
Also, how the heck do Palestinians not exist? Might as well say Welsh people don't exist, or Abkhaz people... Maybe even Russian people, that ought to make sense.

Here, take a look at this: http://www.unwatch.org/un-to-adopt-20-r ... the-world/

Not sure what you're trying to prove, because from what I've seen, Israel deserves a lot of resolutions against them.

1. Simply on the proliferation of nuclear arms. That's an acceptable thing to say.
2. About the exploitation of resources in Palestinian-owned Palestine, which is a good point to raise.
3. About an actual international incident between Israel and Lebanon.
4. About the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, which is a real right for a real people group, by the way.
5. This one wasn't even about Israel - it was about helping Palestinian refugees, which is simply a Human Rights issue.
6. This one was, again, about displaced people.
7. Yet again, addressing Human RIghts abuses.
8. Investigation. Not really that offensive by any stretch of the imagination.
9. Talking about Israeli abuses of the Geneva convention, which also needs to be raised.
10. Kinda Human-Rights-y.
11. Again, Human Rights-y.
12. This is about an occupation. The fact that there are occupations today should tell you this is needed.
13. Human Rights.
14. Allowing further representation of Palestinians.
15. Education on world conflicts.
16. Settlement, so kinda HR-sy.
17. Okay, this is pretty overtly against Israel.
18. World Peace and Human Rights
19. And humanitarian aid.

A lot of those were genuine concerns. If the UN voices concern for Palestinians, does it equal attacking Israel? No. It equals wanting to help an oppressed people group, often with no mention of their oppressors.

Also, I'd like to add one thing: If palestinians laid down their weapons, there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel laid down its weapons, they would be dead tomorrow.

Hello cliché my old friend, I've come to talk with you again.
Seriously, this is the oldest argument in the book, and it does not work. Most of the time, conflict is initiated by Israel. If Israel were to stop oppressing a marginalised people group, then there seriously would be peace. It speaks miles about your pre-conceived notions that you assume the Palestinians would just kill all of the Israelis.

Trying to deny that the Islamic Golden Age existed is like trying to deny that the Enlightenment existed. Though I mentioned my point of view on that too...

Again. What they claim is the islamic golden age with baghdad as its center was not just islamic "scientists." (hah, that's rich.)
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/How_Islamic_ ... _The_World

Even if that were true (which the idea of multiple faiths studying together may well be), it does not discredit the entire Islamic Golden Age. The majority were Islamic, and if you say otherwise, then you significantly discredit your own intelligence.
Also, the quotation marks around 'scientists' are unnecessary. They were more scientific than European "scientists" (or I should say, alchemists) at the time.

[Stormopolis]

Even? Making things even? What the hell? Are you actually saying that Israel should not do reprisals because all the palestinians have is a rock and a rusty knife?

By the way, I think I found out why islam is so dumb.

https://twitter.com/BrainlessMuzzos/sta ... 1659721728

Genocide? If Israel wanted genocide, they would do so. In fact, they have shown remarkable restraint in handling with the palestinians. You know, those poor palestinians who channel 90% of the pity money they get into terrorist organisations like hamas. Those hungry hungry palestinians who are so hungry they are suffering from an obesity epidemic.

Why don't you say anything about the genocide happening on whites? Slowly but certainly whites are being displaced by other races. But only whites. Africa for the africans. Asia for the Asians. People agree on that. If they would rather marry another black person or asian person, that's okay. Smiled on, even. But when a white says "I would never marry a black woman" he's racist. Because in teh regressive left's point of view, everything a white man does is racist. From waking up to going to sleep, his every act is racist to the core.

[Alvecia]

Even? Making things even? What the hell? Are you actually saying that Israel should not do reprisals because all the palestinians have is a rock and a rusty knife?

By the way, I think I found out why islam is so dumb.

https://twitter.com/BrainlessMuzzos/sta ... 1659721728

There's just something about that Twitter handle that immediately makes me want to trust the source......

[Purple Robed Empire]

Even? Making things even? What the hell? Are you actually saying that Israel should not do reprisals because all the palestinians have is a rock and a rusty knife?

By the way, I think I found out why islam is so dumb.

https://twitter.com/BrainlessMuzzos/sta ... 1659721728

There's just something about that Twitter handle that immediately makes me want to trust the source......

He is right about one thing war is about winning not making things even. You want wars to be as uneven as possible. Wars end sooner that way.

[Stormopolis]

Even? Making things even? What the hell? Are you actually saying that Israel should not do reprisals because all the palestinians have is a rock and a rusty knife?

By the way, I think I found out why islam is so dumb.

https://twitter.com/BrainlessMuzzos/sta ... 1659721728

There's just something about that Twitter handle that immediately makes me want to trust the source......

The evidence backs it up.

https://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/musli ... nbreeding/

Let's take a look at a little chart.


Let's take a look at another chart.


Oh my.

Hey, just for fun, let's look at another chart:

[Alvecia]

About

Main stream media across Australia publish what they are instructed to print by their political and corporate masters . Cairns News publish what they refuse and what you the people need to know.

Oh yeah, totally legit.

Edit:
Also your graphs aren't sourced. You could have made those in MS Paint for all I know.

[Ostroeuropa]

"THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!"

"Well, we don't know it was racism..."

[Stormopolis]

About

Main stream media across Australia publish what they are instructed to print by their political and corporate masters . Cairns News publish what they refuse and what you the people need to know.

Oh yeah, totally legit.

Edit:
Also your graphs aren't sourced. You could have made those in MS Paint for all I know.

Yeah. I made that in a couple of minutes. Tooootally.


Pew Forum.

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812
The intelligence scores came from work carried out earlier this decade by Richard Lynn, a British psychologist, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish political scientist

Also, you honestly think that you are being told everything? Referring back to that message where a higher-up instructed German police to remove the word rape from cases. Also, how come you are sceptic about alternative news, but not msm? Which you obviously listen to.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

There's just something about that Twitter handle that immediately makes me want to trust the source......

The evidence backs it up.

https://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/musli ... nbreeding/

Let's take a look at a little chart.


Let's take a look at another chart.


Oh my.

Hey, just for fun, let's look at another chart:

Correlation does not imply causation. Well, unless US spending on science, technology and space has a direct effect on the number of hangings in the US.

[Stormopolis]

The evidence backs it up.

https://cairnsnews.org/2015/09/30/musli ... nbreeding/

Let's take a look at a little chart.


Let's take a look at another chart.


Oh my.

Hey, just for fun, let's look at another chart:

Correlation does not imply causation. Well, unless US spending on science, technology and space has a direct effect on the number of hangings in the US.

I keep hearing that. "Correlation does not imply causation." Then what do you want, huh? You want to be shown pictures of malformed moslem babies? Or will that not prove anything because they could be anybody's baby?

[Alvecia]

Oh yeah, totally legit.

Edit:
Also your graphs aren't sourced. You could have made those in MS Paint for all I know.

Yeah. I made that in a couple of minutes. Tooootally.

Could've made them a month ago, they don't have a timestamp on them either

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Pew Forum.

Great, thanks for that insightful graph detailing where Muslims mostly live.

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812
The intelligence scores came from work carried out earlier this decade by Richard Lynn, a British psychologist, and Tatu Vanhanen, a Finnish political scientist

Also great, but where does it show the cause?
Because I mean, from this graph you could also deduce that being Latino causes lower IQs.
Also that Argentina has a higher IQ than the rest of South America. Can I therefore say that Argentinian food increases IQ?

You should post grpahs and statistics when it's clear to everyone that you don't have a clue how they work.

Also, you honestly think that you are being told everything? Referring back to that message where a higher-up instructed German police to remove the word rape from cases. Also, how come you are sceptic about alternative news, but not msm? Which you obviously listen to.

I'm skeptical of all claims, I take my info from multiple sources and look for the common threads.
I also, however, point out bullshit sources when I see them. Your sources are bullshit.

[Alvecia]

Correlation does not imply causation. Well, unless US spending on science, technology and space has a direct effect on the number of hangings in the US.

I keep hearing that. "Correlation does not imply causation." Then what do you want, huh? You want to be shown pictures of malformed moslem babies? Or will that not prove anything because they could be anybody's baby?

Thanks for defeating your own argument for us.

Edit:

On the note of "Correlation doesn't imply causation",here's a site giving some examples of how just because two lines on a graph match, doesn't mean they're related