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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue May 10, 2016 10:01 am

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:The Bible is not exactly a tome of love and peace either, to be fair.


How many Christians these days are blowing themselves up to kill others in the name of Jesus Christ?

Suicide bombings are not a common practice, no. But Christian terrorism or Christian motivated violence towards those of other religions is hardly uncommon in other places of the world.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:02 am

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:I wasn't. That's why I use the denonym 'New Afrikan'

Are demonyms like orientations on tumblr now where we can just make them up?

Actually this term's been around for a while, and I don't have a tumblr account.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue May 10, 2016 10:02 am

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:I guess that one little "k" in Africa cleanses your palate of this vile heathen tongue that you are consistently speaking then.

I never called English heathen. And it's a start.

You...basically just did.
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Postby Stormopolis » Tue May 10, 2016 10:02 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:I guess that one little "k" in Africa cleanses your palate of this vile heathen tongue that you are consistently speaking then.

I never called English heathen. And it's a start.


Why are you even appropriating Afrikan. The only thing closest to that is Afrikaans, which is a white language.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:03 am

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I never called English heathen. And it's a start.

You...basically just did.

I said that my ancestors were forced to speak it, not that it was sinful in any way.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:04 am

Stormopolis wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I never called English heathen. And it's a start.


Why are you even appropriating Afrikan. The only thing closest to that is Afrikaans, which is a white language.

Many Afrikan born languages use k.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue May 10, 2016 10:05 am

Stormopolis wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I never called English heathen. And it's a start.


Why are you even appropriating Afrikan. The only thing closest to that is Afrikaans, which is a white language.

It is the spelling in many African languages as well. Doesn't make it any more sensible to just sprinkle it into English though.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 10, 2016 10:05 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Fair, except you're speaking English. Not Xhosa, Yoruba, etc.

I'd rather speak very little of my ancestral language (if only I knew what it) or someone else's than use a language that was forced upon my ancestors.

How do you know that wasn't forced upon them? Perhaps they were a separate tribe or kingdom that was conquered and became part of a different one.

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:06 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I'd rather speak very little of my ancestral language (if only I knew what it) or someone else's than use a language that was forced upon my ancestors.

How do you know that wasn't forced upon them? Perhaps they were a separate tribe or kingdom that was conquered and became part of a different one.

I don't understand what you're typing.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Baltenstein » Tue May 10, 2016 10:06 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Stormopolis wrote:
Why are you even appropriating Afrikan. The only thing closest to that is Afrikaans, which is a white language.

Many Afrikan born languages use k.


A letter of non-African origin, just like the rest of the Greek and Latin alphabet, by the way...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 10, 2016 10:06 am



I'm pretty certain Arch already destroyed why that isn't true a while back.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue May 10, 2016 10:07 am

Purple Robed Empire wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:The Bible is not exactly a tome of love and peace either, to be fair.


How many Christians these days are blowing themselves up to kill others in the name of Jesus Christ?


Ignoring the fact that ISIS and it sympathisers make up a tiny fraction of a drop in the ocean of the global Muslim population.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 10, 2016 10:07 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:How do you know that wasn't forced upon them? Perhaps they were a separate tribe or kingdom that was conquered and became part of a different one.

I don't understand what you're typing.

Perhaps the language of your ancestors was not the one of their own ancestors and that what they spoke was forced upon them.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 10, 2016 10:07 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Many Afrikan born languages use k.


A letter of non-African origin, just like the rest of the Greek and Latin alphabet, by the way...


They should use Gaelic :p
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue May 10, 2016 10:07 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:How do you know that wasn't forced upon them? Perhaps they were a separate tribe or kingdom that was conquered and became part of a different one.

I don't understand what you're typing.

He is saying that how do you know your ancestors weren't conquered by another African tribe or kingdom and forced to learn their language.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:08 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I don't understand what you're typing.

Perhaps the language of your ancestors was not the one of their own ancestors and that what they spoke was forced upon them.

If that was the case, then I'd search for that also.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Purple Robed Empire » Tue May 10, 2016 10:10 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
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Africa has been behind long before the Europeans had any real influence on it. Sub-Saharan Africa is poor mainly because it is cut off from Eurasia by desert and its own jungles. It is full of megafauna that is an actual threat to man, while Europe and Asia have few . It has relatively few fast flowing rivers for its size in which you can travel quickly by boat while Europe in particular has many. Europe also has many ports and harbors for its size. It has fast growing vegetation which makes road building difficult. In short Africa is a place that it is difficult to get people and ideas to move around while in Europe it is easy. There are reasons Eurasians have been ahead in technology in respect to Sub-Saharan Africa for thousands of years.

That's why there's Afrikan civilizations all across the Motherland.


Compared to Europe and Asia , Sub-Saharan Africa has been backwards for thousands of years. It has nothing in comparison to the Great Wall of China, the various Roman Roads, the Taj Mahal, or Xanadu . Cut off from the rest of the World and even each other it fell further and further behind.

As far as slavery goes it was Black Africans selling other Black Africans to Europeans and Arabs. Sub-Saharan Africa was a death trap for Europeans as they had a life expectancy of a year before the invention of various medicines. Arabs having more immunity to African diseases (another problem for African technological development) Arabs sometimes went on slave raids.

Of course earlier Whites sold other Whites into slavery. Before the rise of the Russian Empire the biggest source of slaves was Eastern Europe. The word slave and Slav come from the same word.

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Postby Keshokif » Tue May 10, 2016 10:10 am

Stormopolis wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I never called English heathen. And it's a start.


Why are you even appropriating Afrikan. The only thing closest to that is Afrikaans, which is a white language.

Actually, there is no such thing as a 'white language'. It's an Indo-European language spoken by mostly Afrikaner people, who usually are white, but languages don't inherently have some colour. It's like me saying 'Scots is a blue language' or 'Russian is a red language'.

Stormopolis wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:The Bible is not exactly a tome of love and peace either, to be fair.


While this is true, there are a few supreme difference between the two.

1) Most of the nasty shit is in the Old Testament, which is no longer being lived by by the Christians. We'd be little better than the moslems if we still stoned people, which was common practice in the OT. For instance, unmarried wives with hair showing? Stone them all!

Largely fundamentalists. Christians did that a long time ago, and then got over it. Soon, Islam will do the same.

Stormopolis wrote:2) There was a little happening called the Enlightenment. It changed a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot about Christianity.

As did the Islamic Golden Age... Such a shame that Westerners had to reverse that, eh? Though, to be honest, I think that Fundamentalist Christians are attempting to reverse the enlightenment sometimes...

Stormopolis wrote:3) At worst, christianity has the westboro baptist church that pickets funerals. Annoying but not lethal. Buddhists will hold up traffic on the sidewalk so that nobody tramples on the ladybug sitting there. Worst excesses of Islam? Well. Burning people in cages. Training children to be terrorists. (Shout out to my peeps in the Gaza Strip, who play such rousing games as "Navigate the tunnel underneath Israel" and "Kill the Yehudi soldier").

Not to mention that Israeli soldiers have killed 7 times as many Palestinians as they have Israelis. Yep - very equal battles being fought there.

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Trying to deny that the Islamic Golden Age existed is like trying to deny that the Enlightenment existed. Though I mentioned my point of view on that too...
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 10, 2016 10:11 am

Purple Robed Empire wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:That's why there's Afrikan civilizations all across the Motherland.


Compared to Europe and Asia , Sub-Saharan Africa has been backwards for thousands of years. It has nothing in comparison to the Great Wall of China, the various Roman Roads, the Taj Mahal, or Xanadu . Cut off from the rest of the World and even each other it fell further and further behind.

As far as slavery goes it was Black Africans selling other Black Africans to Europeans and Arabs. Sub-Saharan Africa was a death trap for Europeans as they had a life expectancy of a year before the invention of various medicines. Arabs having more immunity to African diseases (another problem for African technological development) Arabs sometimes went on slave raids.

Of course earlier Whites sold other Whites into slavery. Before the rise of the Russian Empire the biggest source of slaves was Eastern Europe. The word slave and Slav come from the same word.

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue May 10, 2016 10:13 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Perhaps the language of your ancestors was not the one of their own ancestors and that what they spoke was forced upon them.

If that was the case, then I'd search for that also.

And that language was more than likely also forced upon them by some other tribe, and so on. Might as well just try and learn the language original humans spoke hundreds of thousands of years ago if you are looking for a language that has not been influenced by other cultures in anyway.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Tue May 10, 2016 10:16 am

Wisconsia wrote:Religion of Peace:

Adolf Hitler and the NAZI Party

Wat.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 10, 2016 10:18 am

Zeinbrad wrote:
Wisconsia wrote:Religion of Peace:

Adolf Hitler and the NAZI Party

Wat.


The Nazis were Muslim, ergo Islam is native to Germany, duh.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Tue May 10, 2016 10:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
A letter of non-African origin, just like the rest of the Greek and Latin alphabet, by the way...


They should use Gaelic :p

Or the more beautiful Gaelige. :lol:
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Postby Xadufell » Tue May 10, 2016 10:35 am

Gauthier wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:Wat.


The Nazis were Muslim, ergo Islam is native to Germany, duh.


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