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Does Islam belong in germany?

No. Islam does not belong in germany.
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Yes. Islam does belong in germany.
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Postby Zoice » Thu May 05, 2016 2:05 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Ok. In turn, you can remain an atheist. However, you must wear a cross around your neck, and go to a christian school.


False equivalence. We're not mandating a particular religion.


Allanea wrote:
How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?


Pass laws which restrict immigration from muslim countries, give incentives for ones here to leave, ban faith schools, ban minarets, ban hijabs, ban the call to prayer, ban niqabs, ban circumcision, ban mosques in general, etc. They may believe in and say what they wish otherwise, but they won't be able to actually practice the religion.

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Postby The balkens » Thu May 05, 2016 2:05 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Anarchism?

dont post while drunk kids


If i were drunk, i'd be posting far more worse shit.

unless you want me to start.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Qu'ran explicitly states to kill apostates, and so does the Hadith; read it for yourself.

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The Bible says the same shit. I don't go around calling for mass deportation of Christians.


It doesn't actually.

Jesus was kind of big on not killing people.

http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hom ... the-bible/

You should try reading the Bible.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

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Postby Crockerland » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Being against Islam is being in favor of freedom of thought and belief for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and apostates from Islam, who the Quran repeatedly says should be forced to pay a faith tax or face eradication.

Just like being against freedom for the Jews in Nazi Germany was being in favor of freedom for Christia...oh, wait...

The Torah never says to brutally eradicate Christians, subjugate and enslave them.
Islam calls for the mass-murder of non-Muslims, while Judaism does not do the same for Christians.
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Postby Iluvbbcland » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Anarchism?

dont post while drunk kids

Didnt Mahkno do some fucked up shit in Ukraine? Like killing jews and shit?

Also the whole rape of nuns thing in spain during the civil war
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 05, 2016 2:06 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Fucking Christ.

This is going to be deployed by European nations soon. Everyone can moan about it but the age of Islamic-American domination of Europe is over. For a free world rid of the fascists from the Middle East and the US.

None of these things are even remotely true.
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Postby Zoice » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Just like being against freedom for the Jews in Nazi Germany was being in favor of freedom for Christia...oh, wait...

The Torah never says to brutally eradicate Christians, subjugate and enslave them.
Islam calls for the mass-murder of non-Muslims, while Judaism does not do the same for Christians.

Right, not Christians. Just the Canaanites and their pals.
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Postby Kubra » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Anarchism?

dont post while drunk kids
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
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Postby Great Feng » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Just like being against freedom for the Jews in Nazi Germany was being in favor of freedom for Christia...oh, wait...

The Torah never says to brutally eradicate Christians, subjugate and enslave them.
Islam calls for the mass-murder of non-Muslims, while Judaism does not do the same for Christians.

I'm sure I can find some Nazis who claim the Torah actually does.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:This is going to be deployed by European nations soon. Everyone can moan about it but the age of Islamic-American domination of Europe is over. For a free world rid of the fascists from the Middle East and the US.

Good luck with your declining birth rates and aging population! Hope to read to my grandchildren about you in the history books!
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Wallenburg wrote:http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hom ... the-bible/

You should try reading the Bible.


Yawn.

Good for you, discovered the old testament.

Not related to what I said.
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Postby Netherlands Mualenia » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Netherlands Mualenia wrote:This is going to be deployed by European nations soon. Everyone can moan about it but the age of Islamic-American domination of Europe is over. For a free world rid of the fascists from the Middle East and the US.

None of these things are even remotely true.

Yeah, sure traitor.

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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Thu May 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Kubra wrote:
Merizoc wrote:dont post while drunk kids
fuck you i won't do what you tell me


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Postby Netherlands Mualenia » Thu May 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Netherlands Mualenia wrote:This is going to be deployed by European nations soon. Everyone can moan about it but the age of Islamic-American domination of Europe is over. For a free world rid of the fascists from the Middle East and the US.

Good luck with your declining birth rates and aging population! Hope to read to my grandchildren about you in the history books!

You'll probably revert back to the stone age without us.

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Postby Liriena » Thu May 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:Pass laws which restrict immigration from muslim Christian countries, give incentives for ones here to leave, ban faith Catholic schools, ban minarets bell towers, ban hijabs nuns' habits, banthe call to prayer the ringing of the bells, ban niqabs priests' habits, ban circumcision baptisms (to be honest, though, I am a strong opponent of circumcision in general), ban mosques churches in general, etc. They may believe in and say what they wish otherwise, but they won't be able to actually practice the religion.


Well, when you change everything Muslim in that paragraph for something Christian, it sounds pretty darn awful. Like... a bunch of increasingly gross violations of human rights.

Honestly, Ostro, you should be grateful I didn't change everything Muslim in the paragraph for something Jewish.
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Postby Kubra » Thu May 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Just like being against freedom for the Jews in Nazi Germany was being in favor of freedom for Christia...oh, wait...

The Torah never says to brutally eradicate Christians, subjugate and enslave them.
Islam calls for the mass-murder of non-Muslims, while Judaism does not do the same for Christians.
I can't exactly see how the Torah could have mentioned christians by name in the first place
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2016 2:08 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hom ... the-bible/

You should try reading the Bible.


Yawn.

Good for you, discovered the old testament.

Not related to what I said.

Matthew 5 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Postby Great Feng » Thu May 05, 2016 2:08 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Good luck with your declining birth rates and aging population! Hope to read to my grandchildren about you in the history books!

You'll probably revert back to the stone age without us.

You'll probably start another German centered world war.
Or with your luck...
It'll involve France, Germany, and Russia, as always.

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Postby Olivaero » Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.


They are welcome to believe and think as they like. I'm simply proposing, along with AFD, that we ban their props.

Ban minarets, ban mosques, ban the hijab, ban the call to prayer, ban circumcision, ban faith schools, etc.

They can believe and say as they wish.

Aside from circumcision and prayer schools, thoes things are clearly being banned to make it harder for muslims to practise non harmful parts of their religion. And that's the only reason for doing it. So in effect yes you are coming down on freedom of belief.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:None of these things are even remotely true.

Yeah, sure traitor.

Stop jerking off with flaming hadiths for five minutes and come back to the real world, duckie.
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Postby Zoice » Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
Yawn.

Good for you, discovered the old testament.

Not related to what I said.

Matthew 5 17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

No, but, you forgot. When Christians make excuses, that's TOTALLY DIFFERENT from Muslim excuses.
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Postby Threlizdun » Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-hom ... the-bible/

You should try reading the Bible.


Yawn.

Good for you, discovered the old testament.

Not related to what I said.

You said the Bible doesn't support killing. They provided Bible passages that provide evidence to the contrary. How is that not related to what you said?
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Postby Braecland » Thu May 05, 2016 2:09 pm

I quite agree, I don't think Islam has a place anywhere outside of Dar al-Islam. That's not to say muslims shouldn't be allowed to practice their religion anywhere else of course.

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