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Does Islam belong in germany?

No. Islam does not belong in germany.
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Yes. Islam does belong in germany.
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Postby Liriena » Thu May 05, 2016 1:56 pm

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Liriena wrote:Funny how homosexuality is illegal in the rest of Nigeria (that is, even the non-Muslim part of it), along with several other nations where British colonial laws against homosexuality are still in the books. Not to mention the Ugandan case in particular, where American Christian fundamentalists encouraged a surge of violent homophobia.

Also, you don't get the play the 'some misinterpret the Bible' while simultaneously generalizing the entire Islamic faith.

Well the Islamic faith actually advocates for the killing of gays its not generalizing if its true. You also never mentioned a new testament passage that advocates for the killing of gays.And to the Ugandan case http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html?_r=0 Don Schmierer, boarder member of exodus international stated"“I feel duped, "arguing that he had been invited to speak on “parenting skills” for families with gay children. He acknowledged telling audiences how homosexuals could be converted into heterosexuals, but he said he had no idea some Ugandans were contemplating the death penalty for homosexuality." not only that but Mr. Lively one of the 3 people that when to the seminars stated " I was very disappointed that the legislation was so harsh" and Mr.Brundidge another of the people speaking said similar things. I dont see them saying yes kill them. To address that Homosexuality is illegal in all of nigeria is false 12 northern states have adopted some form of Shari'a into their criminal statutes: Bauchi, Borno, Gombe, Jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi, Niger, Sokoto, Yobe, and Zamfara. None of this appears in Southern Nigeria.

As far as I know, no passage in the New Testament explicitly mandates the execution of homosexuals... and many Muslims do not condone the execution of homosexuals. So, what else do you have?

Also, whether it was their original intent or not, the actions of those American Christian missionaries led to the attempt to punish homosexuality with death. That they did not explicitly call for the murder of LGBT+ people, like fellow American Christian Kevin Swanson, does not negate the fact that they added fuel to the fire by getting involved in a great defamation campaign against an entire community.

Also, homosexuality is illegal in all of Nigeria.
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Postby Crockerland » Thu May 05, 2016 1:56 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

Being against Islam is being in favor of freedom of thought and belief for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and apostates from Islam, who the Quran repeatedly says should be forced to pay a faith tax or face eradication.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu May 05, 2016 1:56 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.


They are welcome to believe and think as they like. I'm simply proposing, along with AFD, that we ban their props.

Ban minarets, ban mosques, ban the hijab, ban the call to prayer, ban circumcision, ban faith schools, etc.

They can believe and say as they wish.

Ok. In turn, you can remain an atheist. However, you must wear a cross around your neck, and go to a christian school.

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Postby Allanea » Thu May 05, 2016 1:56 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Acarn wrote:Remember last time germany declared *insertreligionhere* doesnt belong in germany.... didnt go well


That's largely the point.
Despite being the last people you'd expect to give in to the argument that this minority is not compatible, they have, it can't have been easy for them. A majority of americans also support a muslim entry ban.

I suspect over the coming months we'll see a majority of europe is in favor in one way or another of ridding their societies of Islam.


How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Thu May 05, 2016 1:57 pm

The Germans are up to no good again? I always knew it would fall to the UK to seize control of Europe. ;)
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Postby Great Feng » Thu May 05, 2016 1:57 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

Being against Islam is being in favor of freedom of thought and belief for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and apostates from Islam, who the Quran repeatedly says should be forced to pay a faith tax or face eradication.

actually wrong: That's only when ruled under a Caliphate, not in general.

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu May 05, 2016 1:57 pm

Allanea wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
That's largely the point.
Despite being the last people you'd expect to give in to the argument that this minority is not compatible, they have, it can't have been easy for them. A majority of americans also support a muslim entry ban.

I suspect over the coming months we'll see a majority of europe is in favor in one way or another of ridding their societies of Islam.


How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?

Same way they tried to rid their society of jews, Id imagine.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2016 1:57 pm

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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 05, 2016 1:57 pm

Allanea wrote:How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?


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Postby Novorobo » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Khadgar wrote:Germany being hostile to a religious minority? Well I've never heard of such a thing!

Funny you should mention that.

Which religion is the most likely to cause followers to kill Jews these days? Islam.

Which religion is the most likely to cause followers to kill gays these days? Islam.

There's a reason "Islamofascist" is a word.

I do think blanket bans on Muslims are pushing it, but two pragmatic options that come to mind are:

1. Greater scrutiny as to WHICH Muslims get let in. Canada lets in Muslims, but they haven't had problems with Muslim gang rape like Germany has... that we know of.

2. Publicly-funded education on how absurd the Quran's claims are, to encourage Muslims to abandon the faith.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Allanea wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
That's largely the point.
Despite being the last people you'd expect to give in to the argument that this minority is not compatible, they have, it can't have been easy for them. A majority of americans also support a muslim entry ban.

I suspect over the coming months we'll see a majority of europe is in favor in one way or another of ridding their societies of Islam.


How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.


They are welcome to believe and think as they like. I'm simply proposing, along with AFD, that we ban their props.

Ban minarets, ban mosques, ban the hijab, ban the call to prayer, ban circumcision, ban faith schools, etc.

They can believe and say as they wish.

Explain this then:
Ostroeuropa wrote:I would say it's time for multiculturalists to abandon axiomatic belief in the equality of beliefs, cultures, and persons,
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

Being against Islam is being in favor of freedom of thought and belief for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and apostates from Islam, who the Quran repeatedly says should be forced to pay a faith tax or face eradication.

Funny you should be talking about eradication as a genocide supporter.

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Postby Iluvbbcland » Thu May 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Disgusting. Dont they see that letting islam into germany can only help them. its like they dont even want diversity.

Fucking nazis.
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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Thu May 05, 2016 1:59 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

Being against Islam is being in favor of freedom of thought and belief for Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics and apostates from Islam, who the Quran repeatedly says should be forced to pay a faith tax or face eradication.


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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu May 05, 2016 1:59 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
They are welcome to believe and think as they like. I'm simply proposing, along with AFD, that we ban their props.

Ban minarets, ban mosques, ban the hijab, ban the call to prayer, ban circumcision, ban faith schools, etc.

They can believe and say as they wish.

Ok. In turn, you can remain an atheist. However, you must wear a cross around your neck, and go to a christian school.


False equivalence. We're not mandating a particular religion.


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Ostroeuropa wrote:
That's largely the point.
Despite being the last people you'd expect to give in to the argument that this minority is not compatible, they have, it can't have been easy for them. A majority of americans also support a muslim entry ban.

I suspect over the coming months we'll see a majority of europe is in favor in one way or another of ridding their societies of Islam.


How do you 'rid' a society of Islam?


Pass laws which restrict immigration from muslim countries, give incentives for ones here to leave, ban faith schools, ban minarets, ban hijabs, ban the call to prayer, ban niqabs, ban circumcision, ban mosques in general, etc. They may believe in and say what they wish otherwise, but they won't be able to actually practice the religion.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu May 05, 2016 1:59 pm

Novorobo wrote:Funny you should mention that.

Which religion is the most likely to cause followers to kill Jews these days? Islam.

Which religion is the most likely to cause followers to kill gays these days? Islam.

There's a reason "Islamofascist" is a word.

I do think blanket bans on Muslims are pushing it, but two pragmatic options that come to mind are:

1. Greater scrutiny as to WHICH Muslims get let in. Canada lets in Muslims, but they haven't had problems with Muslim gang rape like Germany has... that we know of.

2. Publicly-funded education on how absurd the Quran's claims are, to encourage Muslims to abandon the faith.

One is fine in theory, but usually is a screen for "keep der Muslims out' (not saying this about you, but ffs, look at the US proposed 10,000 being background checked the fuck out of and still people are crying ISIS ISIS!)

Two runs afoul of secularism. I'm not a fan of laicite.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu May 05, 2016 1:59 pm

Iluvbbcland wrote:Disgusting. Dont they see that letting islam into germany can only help them. its like they dont even want diversity.

Fucking nazis.


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Postby Eisen Choras » Thu May 05, 2016 2:00 pm

Iluvbbcland wrote:Disgusting. Dont they see that letting islam into germany can only help them. its like they dont even want diversity.

Fucking nazis.


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Postby Liriena » Thu May 05, 2016 2:00 pm

Novorobo wrote:2. Publicly-funded education on how absurd the Quran's claims are, to encourage Muslims to abandon the faith.

And the Bible and the Torah too, I hope?
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu May 05, 2016 2:00 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Would you prefer "Kill all these people for me, slaughter them like dogs" or "Kill everyone who does this innocuous, normal, Western thing"?

Are you actually going to provide a source proving that the Bible commands Jews and Christians to murder non-believers, or not? Or even a single verse allowing spousal abuse? Or rape? Or anything that Islam endorses, for that matter?

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The Qu'ran explicitly states to kill apostates, and so does the Hadith; read it for yourself.

The Qu'ran states it here, and here.

The Hadith, in Bukhari, states it here, and here.

There's no possible way to interpret this to mean something peaceful.

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