60% of Germans - Islam Does Not Belong In Germany.

[Liriena]

I would expect you to try to compensate me anyway.

We send billions in foreign aid and charity.

True. But how much of it actually helps?

The problem with charity in particular is that stuff like this happens:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/24/africa-charity-water-pumps-roundabouts

And foreign aid has its own history of blunders:
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/01/ret.afghan.fooddrops/

[The balkens]

He probably won't given that he'll be in the capital. Which is not toronto.

Oh fuck, are you saying we lose the war due to geopolitical ignorance?

Nope.

see, since Quebec will surrender and no body lives in western Canada, the New Canadian states will say "fuck you" to Ottawa and move the Regions capital to Toronto.

[Kubra]

Well sure but no one wants to visit Ottawa, let alone invade it

You take that back right fucking now.

search your feelings, you know it to be true
I mean hey, at least you're not London, London Ontario

[Rio Cana]

Going back to the OP's first posting, it seems the German Chancellor is changing her tune. She knows she badly messed up by allowing waves upon waves of people into Europe all at the same time and in an unorderly way. Now she is trying to do political damage control. Having said that, it seems they will have to take a page out of Trumps book. Instead of Trump s silly Great wall of Mexico, better would be the Great Wall of Europe. Just go ask Israel since Israel has perfected modern wall building.

If Germany wanted to allow all those refugees in fine but why did it have to involve Germanys neighbors. Seriously, its time to entirely redo the EU. government. All the nations of the EU. should be given equal say. It seems now only a certain handful of nations are calling the shots.

[Ostroeuropa]

That does appear to be the majority view among Muslims.

So, thank you for pointing out why Islamic beliefs are incompatible with any country that practices separation of church and state.

Seesh.

Can you point to any other religion with a majority in favor of this view?
Or hazard a guess as to why you can't?

[The balkens]

We send billions in foreign aid and charity.

True. But how much of it actually helps?

The problem with charity in particular is that stuff like this happens:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/24/africa-charity-water-pumps-roundabouts

And foreign aid has its own history of blunders:
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/01/ret.afghan.fooddrops/

not to mention warlords, as well as the legacy of the cold war still hanging over much of the southern area of the continent.

[Netherlands Mualenia]

I currently live in one of the most civilised countries in the world, and one which is turning against Islam.

Its so good to live in the Netherlands.

>civilized country
>eats pickled herring

>Living in wooden houses
>Tolerating muslims
>Being Christians instead of majority atheist
>Being backwards compared to us in any way
>Having the potential to be one of the few countries to be self-substainable when it comes to the production of food

I love being the most civilised in the world :-)

[Great Feng]

Seriously, its time to entirely redo the EU. government. All the nations of the EU. should be given equal say. It seems now only a certain handful of nations are calling the shots.

that's actually how it works for most alliances in history.
Not anything new.

[The Islands of Versilia]

Youll be looking at us the same way Trudeau looks at Obama when we plant the American flag in Toronto.

Hahaha, you arrogant Americans. You cannot tame the moose when it's on the loose. Prepare for maple syrup or death!

I side with Canada on this.

[Imperializt Russia]

IIRC they have either a "religious police", or a group that goes around to religiously police people.
They target sex workers and trans individuals particularly hard.

Unless I'm thinking of Malaysia.

Indonesia does have lots of intolerant bigots and has had attacks on Christians and Shia Muslims. Suharto actually suppressed the radical elements as a threat to his powerbase and after he was gone they rose up again and there is an extreme element in the population with known Middle East links including at least 4 avowed anti-Western organisations. The real Police and Government has done little to stop them although there is an Anti-Terror squad and almost 600 suspects have been arrested on terrorism charges.

Syariah Law is applied in Malaysia as part of a dual Common Law-Sharia law system

Probably Malaysia then.

I was recalling from some Channel 4 reporting and I remembered that they went "over the border" to Thailand, which meant it couldn't really be anywhere but Malaysia.

[Atelia]

He doesnt seem Orthodox, I wouldnt want to assume he knows Greek or Russian though I am perfectly capable of sermon in either.

Тот, кто говорит, что хочет Бог unironically смотрит на поругание.

Moderators dont like speaking in other languages.

Why do you say that?

Cause it seemed pretty easy just there.

Well would it not be easy to spot a liberal or communist? I find it rather easy.

He doesnt seem Orthodox, I wouldnt want to assume he knows Greek or Russian though I am perfectly capable of sermon in either.

naw bruv u
there's a hilarious irony in a greek speaking crusader

Well Latin crusaders have certainly done despicable things, but I wouldnt say they earn a monopoly on the term.

[MERIZoC]

You take that back right fucking now.

search your feelings, you know it to be true
I mean hey, at least you're not London, London Ontario

Ottawa is soooo much better than Toronto. Never been to london tho.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Would you like acts of violence from God, acts of violence condoned or ordered by God, or laws that mandate violence from God?

I can give you any of those.

And what about Buddhism? Or Jainism? Are they violent? Do their scriptures demand rape and holy war? No, obviously they don't. Islam is pretty much the only one that endorses those things.

A brief history of Buddhism will show you that it's no stranger to religiously motivated violence. Even easier considering the lack of a central holy text to beat heretics about the head with.

Even just one passage directly commanding violence against non-believers in the Torah or the Gospel; acts of violence by God himself (such as the plagues in Egypt) are irrelevant because they are part of neither the Old Law nor the New Law.

As for religiously motivated violence, it doesn't matter if someone uses religion to justify violence, it matters if that religion actually endorses violence. Islam does, most other religions do not.

Read in the name of your Lord who created. What I'm saying is read the Holy Qur'an with no presumtions. And do't tak every word literally.

The Qu'ran claims to be completely clear in it's wording, and the wording doesn't really change when translated from Arabic. To read the phrase "slay the idolaters wherever you find them" and interpret it to mean something peaceful is ludicrous, and no Islamic scholar has ever endorsed it. There's one and only one true interpretation of Islam, and it's Mohammad's. Mohammad's interpretation is completely in line with the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and other Jihadist organizations, because Mohammad himself endorsed and engaged in unprovoked violence (if you want proof, you can just read the Hadith, where there are numerous examples of Mohammad murdering people for doing something totally insignificant like make fun of him). There's no way to interpret any of it to mean anything other than exactly what it says. Mohammad and the Rightly Guided Caliphs all agreed that violence was mandated.

[Ostroeuropa]

We send billions in foreign aid and charity.

True. But how much of it actually helps?

The problem with charity in particular is that stuff like this happens:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/24/africa-charity-water-pumps-roundabouts

And foreign aid has its own history of blunders:
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/01/ret.afghan.fooddrops/

No system is perfect.

[Kubra]

>civilized country
>eats pickled herring

>Living in wooden houses
>Tolerating muslims
>Being Christians instead of majority atheist
>Being backwards compared to us in any way
>Having the potential to be one of the few countries to be self-substainable when it comes to the production of food

I love being the most civilised in the world :-)

>eats pickled herring
>puts mayo on chips
need I say more

[Wallenburg]

Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

[The balkens]

search your feelings, you know it to be true
I mean hey, at least you're not London, London Ontario

Ottawa is soooo much better than Toronto. Never been to london tho.

you wont be saying that when American Imperial troops march north!

PAX AMERICANA! FOR THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE!

[Intaglio]

Assuming this poll is accurate, I guess I can understand where they're coming from. Islamic terrorists are causing all sorts of trouble around the world right now, so it's no surprise they'd want to limit its influence in their country. I mean, I have my own fears, as unlikely as some of them are, of what could happen if this ideology continues to spread. Still, I hope the innocent Muslims don't suffer because of the terrorist ones

[MERIZoC]

True. But how much of it actually helps?

The problem with charity in particular is that stuff like this happens:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/nov/24/africa-charity-water-pumps-roundabouts

And foreign aid has its own history of blunders:
http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/11/01/ret.afghan.fooddrops/

No system is perfect.

Yeah, and the system of foreign aid and charity, is really fucking far from it.

[The Kievan People]

Ottawa is soooo much better than Toronto. Never been to london tho.

Yeah, immigrants ruined Toronto.

[Ostroeuropa]

Define "belong in Europe". They don't not belong in Europe, but we certainly shouldn't endeavor to fill our countries with Muslims simply because they are Muslim.

Also, I congratulate the OP for coming out of the closet and letting everyone know that he hates freedom of thought and belief.

They are welcome to believe and think as they like. I'm simply proposing, along with AFD, that we ban their props.

Ban minarets, ban mosques, ban the hijab, ban the call to prayer, ban circumcision, ban faith schools, etc.

They can believe and say as they wish.

[Kubra]

search your feelings, you know it to be true
I mean hey, at least you're not London, London Ontario

Ottawa is soooo much better than Toronto. Never been to london tho.

The curse of being from London Ontario or going to London Ontario is telling people that you live or went to London and they ask "Oh wow, how was the UK?"
I've seen it happen multiple times and it's funny every time
I like big cities and Toronto is a big smelly city

[El-Amin Caliphate]

.

Read in the name of your Lord who created. What I'm saying is read the Holy Qur'an with no presumtions. And do't tak every word literally.

The Qu'ran claims to be completely clear in it's wording, and the wording doesn't really change when translated from Arabic. To read the phrase "slay the idolaters wherever you find them" and interpret it to mean something peaceful is ludicrous, and no Islamic scholar has ever endorsed it. There's one and only one true interpretation of Islam, and it's Mohammad's. Mohammad's interpretation is completely in line with the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and other Jihadist organizations, because Mohammad himself endorsed and engaged in unprovoked violence (if you want proof, you can just read the Hadith, where there are numerous examples of Mohammad murdering people for doing something totally insignificant like make fun of him). There's no way to interpret any of it to mean anything other than exactly what it says. Mohammad and the Rightly Guided Caliphs all agreed that violence was mandated.

Yet in many verses it says that in defense. Read the topic, not the verse.

[MERIZoC]

Ottawa is soooo much better than Toronto. Never been to london tho.

Yeah, immigrants ruined Toronto.

No.

[Conserative Morality]

Even just one passage directly commanding violence against non-believers in the Torah or the Gospel; acts of violence by God himself (such as the plagues in Egypt) are irrelevant because they are part of neither the Old Law nor the New Law.

Would you prefer "Kill all these people for me, slaughter them like dogs" or "Kill everyone who does this innocuous, normal, Western thing"?