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by The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 3:51 pm

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:51 pm
The East Marches wrote:Italios wrote:There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.
M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Ostroeuropa » Tue May 31, 2016 3:52 pm

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:52 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 3:52 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:The East Marches wrote:
M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.
Integrate, not assimilate.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:53 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Vassenor » Tue May 31, 2016 3:53 pm

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:53 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Italios » Tue May 31, 2016 3:53 pm
The East Marches wrote:Italios wrote:There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.
M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.

by The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 3:54 pm

by Vashty » Tue May 31, 2016 3:54 pm
The East Marches wrote:Vashty wrote:
I went London to see an old friend in March. Apart from Camden and a few other places, you're talking out of your arse about Muslims being prevelant at all. Where's your evidence for "cultural courts"? There's a difference between having a personal moral code and being ISIS, it doesn't happen mate. None of London speaks in fucking English, and that's because Cockneys have their own thing to start with lol. It's diverse but that's what you get by being the financial and cultural heart of the UK and sometimes the EU.
You thinking diversity is not a relevant goal means you admit that it is an accomplished one, and you seem ignorant to cultural diversity's benefits. The decaying wall thing I really don't get, but I think London no matter what group dominates it will be a shifty place anyway, and that's coming from someone who spent their whole life in Liverpool and never got mugged. I spent 3 days in London last year and got mugged (by a white guy if you care.
If you look at the statistical numbers, London is primarily minority. Please look back in the thread to see my adventures in how "tolerant" the "diverse" population was.
Diversity isn't a relevant goal because it labels people by skin color. I don't want to be defined by my family heritage, I want people to treat me for who I am. Not to mention the damage identity politics has done to the left in general. If you want people to be treated equally, you ought to be color blind.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:54 pm
Italios wrote:The East Marches wrote:
M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.
You just said you don't want to be treated based off your heritage, no? So isn't that irrelevant?
What is the American culture, what standards do we have that are directly tied to foreign races and religions and requite assimilation?
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Vashty » Tue May 31, 2016 3:56 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Vashty wrote: That's a personal moral code, not Sharia Law
I swear if I had a penny for how many times that middle-class white people who need to get out more; see more than half the people in a public place being Muslim and then declare the country an Islamic Republic and us living under Sharia Law I'd be showering in fucking gold-dust and buying a new Lamborghini.
No, he said that it was in the Holy Qur'an, but I''ll have to look it up.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:56 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Italios » Tue May 31, 2016 3:56 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Italios wrote:You just said you don't want to be treated based off your heritage, no? So isn't that irrelevant?
What is the American culture, what standards do we have that are directly tied to foreign races and religions and requite assimilation?
True American culture is that started by the Real Americans, which even then is highly vast. US culture now is colonial American culture.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:56 pm
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 3:57 pm
Italios wrote:The East Marches wrote:
M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.
You just said you don't want to be treated based off your heritage, no? So isn't that irrelevant?
What is the American culture, what standards do we have that are directly tied to foreign races and religions and requite assimilation?

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:57 pm
Italios wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:True American culture is that started by the Real Americans, which even then is highly vast. US culture now is colonial American culture.
There's no such thing as colonial American culture anymore. Most traditions that took place from around 1600-1780 are completely dead now. Traditions nowadays tend to differ from household to household.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Italios » Tue May 31, 2016 3:57 pm
Vashty wrote:The East Marches wrote:
If you look at the statistical numbers, London is primarily minority. Please look back in the thread to see my adventures in how "tolerant" the "diverse" population was.
Diversity isn't a relevant goal because it labels people by skin color. I don't want to be defined by my family heritage, I want people to treat me for who I am. Not to mention the damage identity politics has done to the left in general. If you want people to be treated equally, you ought to be color blind.
You're talking out of your backside again. London is 59% White (British, Irish Traveller and Other). That's the majority, a majority of the majority. I don't care about your opinion on the definition of diversity, because I know it's a good thing. I love the way my best mate met his Spanish fiancee through an international university in London. half of his friends in uni were not white, but that somehow was a fresh and good perspective on people for me when i met them. No fucks given.
Nope, that's when you're talking about racial diversity, not cultural diversity. if you don't like your heritage, tough shit. If you identify as a comeing from somewhere and being of a nation, that's an ethnicity. I'm not colour blind. I don't care at all about one's race/ethnicity to start with anyway, I don't need to assure myself that I will have to strive to treat people equally. Everyone around the world makes up the 99.9% working classes, and is abused by the system. Now enough of my Marxist antics.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 31, 2016 3:58 pm
The East Marches wrote:Italios wrote:You just said you don't want to be treated based off your heritage, no? So isn't that irrelevant?
What is the American culture, what standards do we have that are directly tied to foreign races and religions and requite assimilation?
For one, you do business with women. As I've related previously, many Muslims are very discriminatory in whom they will do business with.
Muslims who can't practice the Deen right do so, which isn't even a majority
When you keep your heritage and wave it around as a flag or shield, then it becomes a problem.
Why?
There are plenty of books relating to American business culture and conduct. Muh 4th of july, muh guns, muh freedom and muh Constitution aside.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Vashty » Tue May 31, 2016 3:58 pm
Italios wrote:The East Marches wrote:
Liberia was founded as colony for free slaves to start a new life away from the evil U.S.
The US did treat its slaves pretty evily.Vashty wrote:
You're talking out of your backside again. London is 59% White (British, Irish Traveller and Other). That's the majority, a majority of the majority. I don't care about your opinion on the definition of diversity, because I know it's a good thing. I love the way my best mate met his Spanish fiancee through an international university in London. half of his friends in uni were not white, but that somehow was a fresh and good perspective on people for me when i met them. No fucks given.
Nope, that's when you're talking about racial diversity, not cultural diversity. if you don't like your heritage, tough shit. If you identify as a comeing from somewhere and being of a nation, that's an ethnicity. I'm not colour blind. I don't care at all about one's race/ethnicity to start with anyway, I don't need to assure myself that I will have to strive to treat people equally. Everyone around the world makes up the 99.9% working classes, and is abused by the system. Now enough of my Marxist antics.
Not that I oppose your stance, but you should probably back up that stat with a source.

by The East Marches » Tue May 31, 2016 3:58 pm
Vashty wrote:The East Marches wrote:
If you look at the statistical numbers, London is primarily minority. Please look back in the thread to see my adventures in how "tolerant" the "diverse" population was.
Diversity isn't a relevant goal because it labels people by skin color. I don't want to be defined by my family heritage, I want people to treat me for who I am. Not to mention the damage identity politics has done to the left in general. If you want people to be treated equally, you ought to be color blind.
You're talking out of your backside again. London is 59% White (British, Irish Traveller and Other). That's the majority, a majority of the majority. I don't care about your opinion on the definition of diversity, because I know it's a good thing. I love the way my best mate met his Spanish fiancee through an international university in London. Half of his friends in uni were not white, but that somehow was a fresh and good perspective on people for me when i met them. No fucks given.
Nope, that's when you're talking about racial diversity, not cultural diversity. if you don't like your heritage, tough shit. If you identify as a comeing from somewhere and being of a nation, that's an ethnicity. I'm not colour blind. I don't care at all about one's race/ethnicity to start with anyway, I don't need to assure myself that I will have to strive to treat people equally. Everyone around the world makes up the 99.9% working classes, and is abused by the system. Now enough of my Marxist antics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... #Ethnicity

by Italios » Tue May 31, 2016 4:00 pm
The East Marches wrote:Italios wrote:You just said you don't want to be treated based off your heritage, no? So isn't that irrelevant?
What is the American culture, what standards do we have that are directly tied to foreign races and religions and requite assimilation?
For one, you do business with women. As I've related previously, many Muslims are very discriminatory in whom they will do business with.
When you keep your heritage and wave it around as a flag or shield, then it becomes a problem.
There are plenty of books relating to American business culture and conduct. Muh 4th of july, muh guns, muh freedom and muh Constitution aside.
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