60% of Germans - Islam Does Not Belong In Germany.

[Vashty]

They only form in the first place because of a lack of outside help.

They get plenty of help in Europe. It's that they have no interest in assimilating.

Or the only housing they get is low-quality and the native community snobs them first

[The East Marches]

They get plenty of help in Europe. It's that they have no interest in assimilating.

No one wants to assimilate. I know I don't.

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

[Ostroeuropa]

They get plenty of help in Europe. It's that they have no interest in assimilating.

Or the only housing they get is low-quality and the native community snobs them first

Nonsense. The native community is often displaced by the arrival of Migrants, who move into their old houses.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No one wants to assimilate. I know I don't.

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

[Italios]

No one wants to assimilate. I know I don't.

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

Not everyone has the choice to leave their home.

[Vassenor]

You know I still haven't really heard a convincing argument in favour of discrimination. Or indeed any explanation for why judging a whole population based on a few individuals is suddenly OK.

[The East Marches]

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

[Italios]

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

A colony of America or colonial America? Because you'd be pretty old to be living in 2016 and born before the 18th century.

[The East Marches]

My family did. If you don't want to assimilate, why did you come? You should have just stayed home.

Not everyone has the choice to leave their home.

There are plenty of wealthy states that are far closer culturally than we are. Why come here? The end answer is more often than not money.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Well, it's not really a country because they don't govern themselves. It's more of a cultural pocket. Besides, these might help tourism and diversity. And cultural understanding.

I went to London and I saw Istanbul. I didn't get what I went for and I'll not be returning either. They do govern themselves, they have their own cultural courts in some places. None of their things are in the native language. Diversity itself is an irrelevant goal. That's like saying "I want more blue on this wall" ignoring the fact that the wall is decaying.

There own cultural courts? My dad told me that the Muslim must obey the laws of the land.

[Vashty]

Well, it's not really a country because they don't govern themselves. It's more of a cultural pocket. Besides, these might help tourism and diversity. And cultural understanding.

I went to London and I saw Istanbul. I didn't get what I went for and I'll not be returning either. They do govern themselves, they have their own cultural courts in some places. None of their things are in the native language. Diversity itself is an irrelevant goal. That's like saying "I want more blue on this wall" ignoring the fact that the wall is decaying.

I went London to see an old friend in March. Apart from Camden and a few other places, you're talking out of your arse about Muslims being prevelant at all. Where's your evidence for "cultural courts"? There's a difference between having a personal moral code and being ISIS, it doesn't happen mate. None of London speaks in fucking English, and that's because Cockneys have their own thing to start with lol. It's diverse but that's what you get by being the financial and cultural heart of the UK and sometimes the EU.

You thinking diversity is not a relevant goal means you admit that it is an accomplished one, and you seem ignorant to cultural diversity's benefits. The decaying wall thing I really don't get, but I think London no matter what group dominates it will be a shifty place anyway, and that's coming from someone who spent their whole life in Liverpool and never got mugged. I spent 3 days in London last year and got mugged (by a white guy if you care).

[The balkens]

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

A colony of America or colonial America? Because you'd be pretty old to be living in 2016 and born before the 18th century.

he thinks that referring the US as colonial america earns him brownie points with NOI.

[Vassenor]

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

How do you define "real" though?

Is this going to turn into another one of those things where people think you're only a member of a given group if you openly display all the stereotypes of that group?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

...My parents were born here too...I'm of Afrikan descent...y'know, when invaders stole my ancestors from their homelands...

[Italios]

...I was born in colonial America...and stayed here...

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

A colony of America or colonial America? Because you'd be pretty old to be living in 2016 and born before the 18th century.

he thinks that referring the US as colonial america earns him brownie points with NOI.

I'm not a part of NOI.

[Vashty]

I went to London and I saw Istanbul. I didn't get what I went for and I'll not be returning either. They do govern themselves, they have their own cultural courts in some places. None of their things are in the native language. Diversity itself is an irrelevant goal. That's like saying "I want more blue on this wall" ignoring the fact that the wall is decaying.

There own cultural courts? My dad told me that the Muslim must obey the laws of the land.

That's a personal moral code, not Sharia Law

I swear if I had a penny for how many times that middle-class white people who need to get out more; see more than half the people in a public place being Muslim and then declare the country an Islamic Republic and us living under Sharia Law I'd be showering in fucking gold-dust and buying a new Lamborghini.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.

Al-Haqq!

[The East Marches]

I went to London and I saw Istanbul. I didn't get what I went for and I'll not be returning either. They do govern themselves, they have their own cultural courts in some places. None of their things are in the native language. Diversity itself is an irrelevant goal. That's like saying "I want more blue on this wall" ignoring the fact that the wall is decaying.

I went London to see an old friend in March. Apart from Camden and a few other places, you're talking out of your arse about Muslims being prevelant at all. Where's your evidence for "cultural courts"? There's a difference between having a personal moral code and being ISIS, it doesn't happen mate. None of London speaks in fucking English, and that's because Cockneys have their own thing to start with lol. It's diverse but that's what you get by being the financial and cultural heart of the UK and sometimes the EU.

You thinking diversity is not a relevant goal means you admit that it is an accomplished one, and you seem ignorant to cultural diversity's benefits. The decaying wall thing I really don't get, but I think London no matter what group dominates it will be a shifty place anyway, and that's coming from someone who spent their whole life in Liverpool and never got mugged. I spent 3 days in London last year and got mugged (by a white guy if you care.

If you look at the statistical numbers, London is primarily minority. Please look back in the thread to see my adventures in how "tolerant" the "diverse" population was.

Diversity isn't a relevant goal because it labels people by skin color. I don't want to be defined by my family heritage, I want people to treat me for who I am. Not to mention the damage identity politics has done to the left in general. If you want people to be treated equally, you ought to be color blind.

[The balkens]

There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.

Al-Haqq!

Guns, germs, and steel.

[Italios]

There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.

Al-Haqq!

No idea what that means, but again, there's no such thing as a true American. The country of America was developed too late to have much of its own culture. Most of it is borrowed from other countries.

[The East Marches]

Then why did your family come if they have no interest in being real Americans? You'd be more at home someplace else.

There's no such thing as being a real American unless you're interested in living like a Native American. America's first white settlers technically came illegally, stole land from its natives, forced natives to live on reservations out west, and used the land for their own purposes. The present-day "American" usually lives surrounded by a mixture of cultures.

M8, my Mom is Blackfoot, the Native American argument doesn't work on me. There is a discernable and definite American culture. We have standards, norms and ways doing things here. It is not unreasonable to ask that immigrants follow those standards and assimilate.

[Zoice]

Ghettos don't form just because of mass migration, they aren't migrating in numbers big enough that it forces ghettos to form. We can break up ghettos with earnest attempts at integration, with support for them from their communities and the government to help them acclimate and live amongst the rest of the populace.

Nonsense, that's why the ghettos have formed, because there's too many of them before the individuals are integrated and they reinforce eachothers culture and allow parallel societies.

We've been TRYING to integrate them, it isn't working. Tolerance won't do it. We need forceful assimilation.

Ban faith schools.
Ban circumcision.
Taxation on any muslim not employed in the area living in a majority muslim area who refuses relocation.
Make the national languages the official languages and provide classes on them.
De-segregation bussing for schools.
Limit migration from Islamic countries drastically until the current enclaves are dealt with.

Just some measures that could help.

Banning faith schools and desegregation is a GREAT idea. The rest is just singling them out, that's how it would be interpreted.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

There own cultural courts? My dad told me that the Muslim must obey the laws of the land.

That's a personal moral code, not Sharia Law

I swear if I had a penny for how many times that middle-class white people who need to get out more; see more than half the people in a public place being Muslim and then declare the country an Islamic Republic and us living under Sharia Law I'd be showering in fucking gold-dust and buying a new Lamborghini.

No, he said that it was in the Holy Qur'an, but I''ll have to look it up.

[Italios]

I went London to see an old friend in March. Apart from Camden and a few other places, you're talking out of your arse about Muslims being prevelant at all. Where's your evidence for "cultural courts"? There's a difference between having a personal moral code and being ISIS, it doesn't happen mate. None of London speaks in fucking English, and that's because Cockneys have their own thing to start with lol. It's diverse but that's what you get by being the financial and cultural heart of the UK and sometimes the EU.

You thinking diversity is not a relevant goal means you admit that it is an accomplished one, and you seem ignorant to cultural diversity's benefits. The decaying wall thing I really don't get, but I think London no matter what group dominates it will be a shifty place anyway, and that's coming from someone who spent their whole life in Liverpool and never got mugged. I spent 3 days in London last year and got mugged (by a white guy if you care.

If you look at the statistical numbers, London is primarily minority. Please look back in the thread to see my adventures in how "tolerant" the "diverse" population was.

Diversity isn't a relevant goal because it labels people by skin color. I don't want to be defined by my family heritage, I want people to treat me for who I am. Not to mention the damage identity politics has done to the left in general. If you want people to be treated equally, you ought to be color blind.

Colour-blindness, when it comes to treating a person based off their qualities and personality and not their heritage, is fine. But when racial issues arise, it's essential to see what is caused by race.