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[Communist Xomaniax]

It makes sense to go there when you just came from a country that's war-torn.

It makes sense to cross through dozens of other safe countries to get directly to the countries with the highest welfare payments and the cushiest treatment? Yeah, I guess if your primary goal is living an easy life and not seeking refuge that makes sense. It also makes them a leech at worst, and dead weight at best.

Besides, I don't believe the refugees are lazy. It's just hard for them to find a job.

Got a source for that one? But then again, if there aren't even enough jobs to go around, then that only reinforces my point.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It makes sense to go there when you just came from a country that's war-torn.

It makes sense to cross through dozens of other safe countries to get directly to the countries with the highest welfare payments and the cushiest treatment? Yeah, I guess if your primary goal is living an easy life and not seeking refuge that makes sense. It also makes them a leech at worst, and dead weight at best.

Initially, yes.

Besides, I don't believe the refugees are lazy. It's just hard for them to find a job.

Got a source for that one? But then again, if there aren't even enough jobs to go around, then that only reinforces my point.[/quote]
Do you really think a country would blindly give people money indefinitely?

[Aelex]

Do you really think a country would blindly give people money indefinitely?

That's... That's the exact reason we're REFUSING to take the migrants, you know?

[Communist Xomaniax]

Initially, yes.

Then they're not refugees, they're economic migrants and should be deported as such.

really think a country would blindly give peoplepeople money indefinitely?

Don't dodge my question.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Initially, yes.

Then they're not refugees, they're economic migrants and should be deported as such.

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

[Communist Xomaniax]

Then they're not refugees, they're economic migrants and should be deported as such.

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

I gave an example.

[Zoice]

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

Sources? Every single piece I've seen that wasn't pulled out of a right winger's ass has shown the majority of refugees/migrants to be willing to leave, if it was safe, and in the mean time they want to work and be a productive citizen.

[Moschetia]

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

Is it easy being homeless and not allowed to legitimately work?

[Communist Xomaniax]

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

I gave an example.

No, you pulled something out of your ass and dodged my question.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I gave an example.

No, you pulled something out of your ass and dodged my question.

I said "If you were a refugee from Iraq". I never said anything about all refugees being from Iraq. Don't twist my words and I'm looking for a source.

[Communist Xomaniax]

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

Sources? Every single piece I've seen that wasn't pulled out of a right winger's ass has shown the majority of refugees/migrants to be willing to leave, if it was safe, and in the mean time they want to work and be a productive citizen.

Then by all means, prove it. Because that claim certainly doesn't seem to translate into real life, regardless of nation.

[Moschetia]

If you just came from a country like Iraq, you'd choose the easiest thing possible because you're traumatized and are trying to help your family (if you have one).

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

Is it easy being homeless and not allowed to legitimately work?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://www.irinnews.org/report/97125/tu ... ploitation Shows the perils of finding work. It was so hard that some refugees are working illegally.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://www.newyorker.com/business/curre ... in-germany Another one.

[Communist Xomaniax]

The easiest thing is to trek halfway across the world? Horseshit, they're there for the free money and you know it. Also, do you have a source that most of them are apparently now Iraqi refugees?

Also good job at dodging my question.

Is it easy being homeless and not allowed to legitimately work?

Are most migrants homeless? Are most migrants barred from working? Can you prove either are the result of discrimination? In Sweden that is certainly not the case, yet almost all migrants are welfare bums in government housing.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Is it easy being homeless and not allowed to legitimately work?

Are most migrants homeless? Are most migrants barred from working? Can you prove either are the result of discrimination? In Sweden that is certainly not the case, yet almost all migrants are welfare bums in government housing.

Actually yes they are. Yes they're homeless also. You can in the camps and almost no help of the refugees that discrimination exists.

[Communist Xomaniax]

http://www.irinnews.org/report/97125/turkey-syrian-refugees-choosing-work-risk-exploitation Shows the perils of finding work. It was so hard that some refugees are working illegally.

They shouldn't be anywhere but the camps.

[Jolet]

http://www.irinnews.org/report/97125/turkey-syrian-refugees-choosing-work-risk-exploitation Shows the perils of finding work. It was so hard that some refugees are working illegally.

This may have just been me, but I wasn't able to open that source.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://www.irinnews.org/report/97125/turkey-syrian-refugees-choosing-work-risk-exploitation Shows the perils of finding work. It was so hard that some refugees are working illegally.

This may have just been me, but I wasn't able to open that source.

? Oh wow. Fortunately I have another one.

[Jolet]

Are most migrants homeless? Are most migrants barred from working? Can you prove either are the result of discrimination? In Sweden that is certainly not the case, yet almost all migrants are welfare bums in government housing.

Actually yes they are. Yes they're homeless also. You can in the camps and almost no help of the refugees that discrimination exists.

You know, I remember seeing another thread that identified mass migration as a cause for this sort of "discrimination". The long-term game, with people drifting in gradually and acclimating rather than flooding into a country, is what ends up working best.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

http://www.irinnews.org/report/97125/turkey-syrian-refugees-choosing-work-risk-exploitation Shows the perils of finding work. It was so hard that some refugees are working illegally.

They shouldn't be anywhere but the camps.

So they should 'live' far away from places where it'd be easier for them? Y'know, hospitals, actual food, WORK?

[Communist Xomaniax]

They shouldn't be anywhere but the camps.

So they should 'live' far away from places where it'd be easier for them? Y'know, hospitals, actual food, WORK?

They are not there as permanent residents, they're alleged refugees. As such they should be in refugee camps.

[Moschetia]

Is it easy being homeless and not allowed to legitimately work?

Are most migrants homeless? Are most migrants barred from working? Can you prove either are the result of discrimination? In Sweden that is certainly not the case, yet almost all migrants are welfare bums in government housing.

Wtf are you talking about? Most of the refugees are in Syria Lebanon and Turkey. Where they are making their way into the streets since the camps are full, have limited access to medical and other services and can't get work permits.

But oh it's a tragedy if those that who got to Europe are treated as refugees are supposed to be under international law.

[Moschetia]

So they should 'live' far away from places where it'd be easier for them? Y'know, hospitals, actual food, WORK?

They are not there as permanent residents, they're alleged refugees. As such they should be in refugee camps.

What are you now? Erdo's spokesperson? Cause the Turkish government's the only entity that would claim they aren't refugees.