60% of Germans - Islam Does Not Belong In Germany.

[Kubumba Tribe]

You type as if you don't care about immigrants' lives, sorry if I misinterpret. BTW the niqab must be made legal throughout the world (ugh, I brought up an old debate >m<)

I reject them if they reject our values, certainly. We are under no obligation to accept those who do not accept the Republic.

And I am pleased you think that.

So if you immigrated to Iran but wanted to live French-like, and Iran deported you, you'd be ok with that? And why are you pleased with that?

[Olerand]

I reject them if they reject our values, certainly. We are under no obligation to accept those who do not accept the Republic.

And I am pleased you think that.

So if you immigrated to Iran but wanted to live French-like, and Iran deported you, you'd be ok with that? And why are you pleased with that?

I certainly would. Iran has every right to do that. Not that I would ever go there.

Because we have a set of common values and beliefs that we have established as our own. Our nation, our Republic, is built on those values. If you share them, you can join. If you do not, you will not. We're all fine with that, and most want that to be even more stringent than it currently is.

[Kubra]

I reject them if they reject our values, certainly. We are under no obligation to accept those who do not accept the Republic.

And I am pleased you think that.

So if you immigrated to Iran but wanted to live French-like, and Iran deported you, you'd be ok with that? And why are you pleased with that?

Wouldn't ones first question be "What on earth am I doing in Iran?"

[Kubra]

So if you immigrated to Iran but wanted to live French-like, and Iran deported you, you'd be ok with that? And why are you pleased with that?

I certainly would. Iran has every right to do that. Not that I would ever go there.

Because we have a set of common values and beliefs that we have established as our own. Our nation, our Republic, is built on those values. If you share them, you can join. If you do not, you will not. We're all fine with that, and most want that to be even more stringent than it currently is.

yeah but you lot waver on those values plenty

[Olerand]

I certainly would. Iran has every right to do that. Not that I would ever go there.

Because we have a set of common values and beliefs that we have established as our own. Our nation, our Republic, is built on those values. If you share them, you can join. If you do not, you will not. We're all fine with that, and most want that to be even more stringent than it currently is.

yeah but you lot waver on those values plenty

We do, unfortunately. No one is ever perfect. But, what do you have in mind?

[East Catalina]

As a Swiss-born citizen I agree that in order to become a citizen you should learn the language. Not only does it make it easier for other Swiss people but it also is necessary to function as a Swiss citizen. Just my thought.

Which language do you have to learn in Switzerland out of the four or five?

[Kubra]

yeah but you lot waver on those values plenty

We do, unfortunately. No one is ever perfect. But, what do you have in mind?

Doing as everyone does, saying "good enough" if they can get at least a fair enough similarity in ethics, a good enough bit of french, maybe a bit of leeway for learning, so long as lone figures they'd be totally down for joining in an invasion or two, maybe of their previously homeland, if the situation necessitates it.
I mean hey, that's how the most well integrated minorities in most western countries got their start.
It's simple: take in any algerian refugees, especially political, and straight up invade Algeria.
Even if you lose and it ends up a bay of pigs, those exiles will love ya for it.

[Olerand]

As a Swiss-born citizen I agree that in order to become a citizen you should learn the language. Not only does it make it easier for other Swiss people but it also is necessary to function as a Swiss citizen. Just my thought.

Which language do you have to learn in Switzerland out of the four or five?

Swiss immigration laws, after further research, are very decentralized. There are national requirements, but also canton requirements, and municipal requirements -figures. So probably the language of the canton you reside in, at least.

Switzerland also has a quota system now, even for EU nationals, after the referendum last year or two years ago. And you can apply for Swiss citizenship only after having resided in Switzerland for ten years.

Their laws seem more stringent than ours, we should probably look into them in the next batch of reform to immigration laws that the right will bring about.

[Olerand]

We do, unfortunately. No one is ever perfect. But, what do you have in mind?

Doing as everyone does, saying "good enough" if they can get at least a fair enough similarity in ethics, a good enough bit of french, maybe a bit of leeway for learning, so long as lone figures they'd be totally down for joining in an invasion or two, maybe of their previously homeland, if the situation necessitates it.
I mean hey, that's how the most well integrated minorities in most western countries got their start.
It's simple: take in any algerian refugees, especially political, and straight up invade Algeria.
Even if you lose and it ends up a bay of pigs, those exiles will love ya for it.

I agree that the laws are sometimes leniently applied... But... Are you suggesting that France takes in Algerians... In hopes of organizing them to invade Algeria in the future? Is this a joke?

We do grant a lot of Algerians asylum. Because many Algerians apply for asylum in France for obvious reasons... But... No one thinks we're invading Algeria with them though.

[The East Marches]

Tbh fam, I was really annoyed that I didn't just pay to go to those countries. A trip to Istanbul is a hell of alot cheaper than Berlin or London. My trip to Buckingham Palace or the British Musuem had me going through little Baghdad. I expected to see real British people when I was there, not that. I am a bit annoyed the current state of Turkey. No scuba for me this year.

But you still went to bongland and london to boot because you were a stupid tourist. I still went and am in the process of buying tickets for next summer + train to paris, cuz I'm a stupid dumb tourist.
Give it a decade, some arts funding, and a little gentrification, you'll be paying a pound and a half for a bit of burnt espresso in a fancy cup in no time. And I'll be there, slamming it back. You still won't see much white british people there, but you'll see plenty of folks from Minnesota and Dakota, if you're lucky maybe a few of the richer spaniards. You'll see plenty of brown people, but this time imitating cockney accents, wearing too much red white and blue, and with kids desperately trying to hide that their with their parents out of embarrassment. And those kids, those kids'll be brits through and through, they'll have that narcissistic self-loathing that marks us all as properly western children.

As for turkey, anywhere with political problems does its best to prevent tourists from getting caught in the crossfire, cuz that's good money. For some purely political disputes tourism remains untouched, cuz both sides know that both their asses rest on folks eating their weird cuisine. A place like Istanbul? Go, that place is probably the safest place you could be in Turkey right now, especially if you're sporting a fanny pack.

Being a stupid dumb tourist sucks bro. I've only started making the gimmicky trips to Europe and other tourist traps in recently. Your post gives me hope the future.

My plan was to see Mount Ararat but that is a no-go Kurdish zone now. Same for the normal town I like to scuba at. RIP 20 lira for a day of diving. Like can't that shitty civil war just be over so I can go sperg out over the Lycian Way? The turbo assholes over there have no consideration for people's travel plans. They need some gentrification or something.

[East Catalina]

Personally, I can't really believe that a police department would cover up a rape ring unless they were getting in on it too. What kind of perverse incentive were they getting if not some pedo fun?

They didn't want to get demonized as racists. Note that some of the perpetrators targeted white girls for this reason too, explicitly acknowledging the police could do nothing about it because of the political tendencies of our establishment and media. If that's not a sign of overly pandering to minorities, nothing will be. And yet SJWs continue to do it.

That's the stupidest reason to condone pedophilia I've ever heard in my life. I have no words.

[Kubra]

Doing as everyone does, saying "good enough" if they can get at least a fair enough similarity in ethics, a good enough bit of french, maybe a bit of leeway for learning, so long as lone figures they'd be totally down for joining in an invasion or two, maybe of their previously homeland, if the situation necessitates it.
I mean hey, that's how the most well integrated minorities in most western countries got their start.
It's simple: take in any algerian refugees, especially political, and straight up invade Algeria.
Even if you lose and it ends up a bay of pigs, those exiles will love ya for it.

I agree that the laws are sometimes leniently applied... But... Are you suggesting that France takes in Algerians... In hopes of organizing them to invade Algeria in the future? Is this a joke?

We do grant a lot of Algerians asylum. Because many Algerians apply for asylum in France for obvious reasons... But... No one thinks we're invading Algeria with them though.

Well you should! If last time france was in algeria folks were on it for supporting the pied noirs more than the brown people, they'll really have no comeback this time around.

I mean, I am joking, but also, like, the more I say it the more I think it might work out.
I mean, it might not work out, they might end up like the chasseurs britanniques, but hey royalists are always weak knee'd ain't they? Everyone else did swimmingly with their expat infantry compared to the brits, and France has the best history in all of europe on their use of expat infantry.

[Jumalariik]

I reject them if they reject our values, certainly. We are under no obligation to accept those who do not accept the Republic.

And I am pleased you think that.

So if you immigrated to Iran but wanted to live French-like, and Iran deported you, you'd be ok with that? And why are you pleased with that?

If I wanted to live French-like, I'd not move to Iran. Yes, it would be logical.

[Kubra]

But you still went to bongland and london to boot because you were a stupid tourist. I still went and am in the process of buying tickets for next summer + train to paris, cuz I'm a stupid dumb tourist.
Give it a decade, some arts funding, and a little gentrification, you'll be paying a pound and a half for a bit of burnt espresso in a fancy cup in no time. And I'll be there, slamming it back. You still won't see much white british people there, but you'll see plenty of folks from Minnesota and Dakota, if you're lucky maybe a few of the richer spaniards. You'll see plenty of brown people, but this time imitating cockney accents, wearing too much red white and blue, and with kids desperately trying to hide that their with their parents out of embarrassment. And those kids, those kids'll be brits through and through, they'll have that narcissistic self-loathing that marks us all as properly western children.

As for turkey, anywhere with political problems does its best to prevent tourists from getting caught in the crossfire, cuz that's good money. For some purely political disputes tourism remains untouched, cuz both sides know that both their asses rest on folks eating their weird cuisine. A place like Istanbul? Go, that place is probably the safest place you could be in Turkey right now, especially if you're sporting a fanny pack.

Being a stupid dumb tourist sucks bro. I've only started making the gimmicky trips to Europe and other tourist traps in recently. Your post gives me hope the future.

My plan was to see Mount Ararat but that is a no-go Kurdish zone now. Same for the normal town I like to scuba at. RIP 20 lira for a day of diving. Like can't that shitty civil war just be over so I can go sperg out over the Lycian Way? The turbo assholes over there have no consideration for people's travel plans. They need some gentrification or something.

Kurdish no go-zone? Aren't you an American?
Bro you done fucked up, among kurds and filipinos are the only folks that a tourists can fly the flag around and actually get people going "right on, bro!" and free drinks (not with the kurds tho, free food?) instead of spit and shame. They like Americans, like way too much.

[East Catalina]

Being a stupid dumb tourist sucks bro. I've only started making the gimmicky trips to Europe and other tourist traps in recently. Your post gives me hope the future.

My plan was to see Mount Ararat but that is a no-go Kurdish zone now. Same for the normal town I like to scuba at. RIP 20 lira for a day of diving. Like can't that shitty civil war just be over so I can go sperg out over the Lycian Way? The turbo assholes over there have no consideration for people's travel plans. They need some gentrification or something.

Kurdish no go-zone? Aren't you an American?
Bro you done fucked up, among kurds and filipinos are the only folks that a tourists can fly the flag around and actually get people going "right on, bro!" and free drinks (not with the kurds tho, free food?) instead of spit and shame. They like Americans, like way too much.

Dang, I wonder if they've been colonized by America recently. I know the Philippines were, but Kurdistan? Holy freakin' Americanism, Batman!

[Olerand]

I agree that the laws are sometimes leniently applied... But... Are you suggesting that France takes in Algerians... In hopes of organizing them to invade Algeria in the future? Is this a joke?

We do grant a lot of Algerians asylum. Because many Algerians apply for asylum in France for obvious reasons... But... No one thinks we're invading Algeria with them though.

Well you should! If last time france was in algeria folks were on it for supporting the pied noirs more than the brown people, they'll really have no comeback this time around.

I mean, I am joking, but also, like, the more I say it the more I think it might work out.
I mean, it might not work out, they might end up like the chasseurs britanniques, but hey royalists are always weak knee'd ain't they? Everyone else did swimmingly with their expat infantry compared to the brits, and France has the best history in all of europe on their use of expat infantry.

... Let's not. Not that Algeria isn't....... Nice.... I guess.... But, like Charles de Gaulle said regarding Algerians remaining a part of France and moving to the métropole for a better standard of living, "My village will no longer be called Colombey-les-Deux-Églises (Colombey-the-Two-Churches) but Colombey-les-Deux-Mosquées (Colombey-the-Two-Mosques)".

With a population of 40,000,000 and a fertility rate of 2.82 ensuring continuous growth... Nah, we're OK. Let them have Algeria, the FLN hasn't done much good with it since anyway.

[The East Marches]

Being a stupid dumb tourist sucks bro. I've only started making the gimmicky trips to Europe and other tourist traps in recently. Your post gives me hope the future.

My plan was to see Mount Ararat but that is a no-go Kurdish zone now. Same for the normal town I like to scuba at. RIP 20 lira for a day of diving. Like can't that shitty civil war just be over so I can go sperg out over the Lycian Way? The turbo assholes over there have no consideration for people's travel plans. They need some gentrification or something.

Kurdish no go-zone? Aren't you an American?
Bro you done fucked up, among kurds and filipinos are the only folks that a tourists can fly the flag around and actually get people going "right on, bro!" and free drinks (not with the kurds tho, free food?) instead of spit and shame. They like Americans, like way too much.

Nah brobropopo, those Kurds hate us. They are from a different clan. They are dyed in the wool Communists. They don't like us or the Barzani (pro-American) kurds. I can't blame them for being buttmad. We did give the Turks the kit they use to rekt them.

[Kubra]

Kurdish no go-zone? Aren't you an American?
Bro you done fucked up, among kurds and filipinos are the only folks that a tourists can fly the flag around and actually get people going "right on, bro!" and free drinks (not with the kurds tho, free food?) instead of spit and shame. They like Americans, like way too much.

Dang, I wonder if they've been colonized by America recently. I know the Philippines were, but Kurdistan? Holy freakin' Americanism, Batman!

It's been like that since 2003 iraq, even though everyone else got the shaft the kurds really did end up liberated by the invasion, from there the americanism bled into the syrian and turkish kurds, helped along by, funnily enough, us airstrikes in syria.
Iraqi kurdistan is now one of the hardest drinking places in the middle east (a good think, imo), if the Americans play their cards right that could also be turkish kurdistan.

Kurdish no go-zone? Aren't you an American?
Bro you done fucked up, among kurds and filipinos are the only folks that a tourists can fly the flag around and actually get people going "right on, bro!" and free drinks (not with the kurds tho, free food?) instead of spit and shame. They like Americans, like way too much.

Nah brobropopo, those Kurds hate us. They are from a different clan. They are dyed in the wool Communists. They don't like us or the Barzani (pro-American) kurds. I can't blame them for being buttmad. We did give the Turks the kit they use to rekt them.

Doesn't matter if they fly a red flag, both Mao and uncle Ho did but they still wanted to rub shoulders with the Americans, and dumb ol' america didn't choose either until it was too late. Uncle Ho actually wanted normalized relations with the french before he gave the flirty eyes to the states, but the states wouldn't have it. We helped kurds, and that's more important than building socialism any day.
It's simple: if the turks aren't gonna be cool, the kurds are more than willing to be cool.

[The East Marches]

Nah brobropopo, those Kurds hate us. They are from a different clan. They are dyed in the wool Communists. They don't like us or the Barzani (pro-American) kurds. I can't blame them for being buttmad. We did give the Turks the kit they use to rekt them.

Doesn't matter if they fly a red flag, both Mao and uncle Ho did but they still wanted to rub shoulders with the Americans, and dumb ol' america didn't choose either until it was too late. Uncle Ho actually wanted normalized relations with the french before he gave the flirty eyes to the states, but the states wouldn't have it. We helped kurds, and that's more important than building socialism any day.
It's simple: if the turks aren't gonna be cool, the kurds are more than willing to be cool.

I agree with that about the Turks. You may be right about the rest too, it made my inner bald eagle cry tho.

[Liberty Primes Internally]

[Jolet]

Well, what if they don't really have any interest in engaging in society? Maybe they just want a state where they get taken care of and go off and do their own thing. What incentivizes them to go chase integration at that point, if they already have the whole citizenship thing settled? The language is necessary to understand everything else; it is the lynchpin to integration.

In the US, applicants for citizenship are asked, along with questions regarding English, basic questions about history of the United States, current officials in the United States, basic (and by basic I do mean BASIC) questions about the US government and how it functions, and as far as I'm aware, all of these questions are in English. Maybe they have versions in other languages, I dunno, but it'd make sense if that were the case.

I personally think that nothing would drive those who merely wish to exist within the country, not be part of it to join without some form of integration (whether that's just learning the language or compulsory service or what have you),which is why I don't approve of just granting green cards to anybody who makes it across the border and happens to have a pulse. You skip the whole aculturation process that way, which causes serious issues later down the road.

Hm, I understand you now. But history of the US and how the gov works? Actually, an immigrant actually has to know how the gov works. But why US history?

It's an aspect of American culture. Though, it's fairly easy questions. Stuff like, "Who was the first president?" Or "How many colonies were there in the original USA?" Not exactly rocket science.

[Alsheb]

Personally, I can't really believe that a police department would cover up a rape ring unless they were getting in on it too. What kind of perverse incentive were they getting if not some pedo fun?

They didn't want to get demonized as racists. Note that some of the perpetrators targeted white girls for this reason too, explicitly acknowledging the police could do nothing about it because of the political tendencies of our establishment and media. If that's not a sign of overly pandering to minorities, nothing will be. And yet SJWs continue to do it.

Also not how most other rapes don't even get mention in the media. The fact that the perpetators are Pakistani is apparently important enough to be even mentioned, specifically so people like you can make a point of "Islamophilia".

Meanwhile, a woman was raped over here during a live radio broadcast, and the judge let the perpetrator go free because it wasn't a "violent rape". It wasn't a Muslim man, so it wasn't even worth mentioning on the news.

[Salus Maior]

Meanwhile, a woman was raped over here during a live radio broadcast, and the judge let the perpetrator go free because it wasn't a "violent rape". It wasn't a Muslim man, so it wasn't even worth mentioning on the news.

Holy shit, where was this?

[Alsheb]

Meanwhile, a woman was raped over here during a live radio broadcast, and the judge let the perpetrator go free because it wasn't a "violent rape". It wasn't a Muslim man, so it wasn't even worth mentioning on the news.

Holy shit, where was this?

Belgium.

[The Alma Mater]

Meanwhile, a woman was raped over here during a live radio broadcast, and the judge let the perpetrator go free because it wasn't a "violent rape". It wasn't a Muslim man, so it wasn't even worth mentioning on the news.

You mean that case that was all over the news ? Complete with outcry about the reasoning of the judge ?
Perhaps you should be less selective in your newsreading/watching.

[Korouse]

Meanwhile, a woman was raped over here during a live radio broadcast, and the judge let the perpetrator go free because it wasn't a "violent rape". It wasn't a Muslim man, so it wasn't even worth mentioning on the news.

You mean that case that was all over the news ? Complete with outcry about the reasoning of the judge ?
Perhaps you should be less selective in your newsreading/watching.

Source?

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