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Who will win the election?

Donald Trump
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29%
Hillary Clinton
52
55%
Gary Johnson
10
11%
Jill Stein
5
5%
 
Total votes : 94

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Postby Utceforp » Sun May 08, 2016 7:28 am

Morgantown West Virginia wrote:People will vote Trump to stop Hillary
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... SKCN0XX06E

The only thing less intelligent than Donald Trump is a democrat voting for him.
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Postby Dinake » Sun May 08, 2016 9:44 am

Geilinor wrote:
Dinake wrote:My gut tells me he's going to be Julius Caesar.

So he'll bring about the fall of the Republic?

I know it's unlikely, but my gut says he'll do it.
My brain says he'd like to, but knows he ain't succeedin'.
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-Ross Douthat, reacting to Trump's presumptive nomination.
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Postby Dinake » Sun May 08, 2016 9:46 am

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No. But I can't imagine what else they could be referring to.

Then again, you never know in La La Conspiracy Land.

nothing else comes to my mind either but ....maybe it added up over time? its not like she is the star of a martial arts movie where she was attacked by 13 soldiers and kills them all one by one....

So you think.
Hillary will defeat Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in single combat, stabilizing the middle east with her kung fu skills. *nods*
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sun May 08, 2016 11:07 am

After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.
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It is the solemn and patriotic duty of all true Americans to prevent the election of Donald J. Trump as the next President of the United States by use of the ballot box.
Even if it means you might have to be called for jury duty!

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Postby Dinake » Sun May 08, 2016 11:12 am

New Jerzylvania wrote:After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.

The GOP party apparatus has experience with semi-populist, unorthodox outsiders- but all of them have been religious conservatives. If they treat Trump like that, they'll get burned.
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-Ross Douthat, reacting to Trump's presumptive nomination.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sun May 08, 2016 11:39 am

Dinake wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.

The GOP party apparatus has experience with semi-populist, unorthodox outsiders- but all of them have been religious conservatives. If they treat Trump like that, they'll get burned.


He's already got them soaked in Trump jet fuel. Is Paul Ryan's new nickname Sparky?
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It is the solemn and patriotic duty of all true Americans to prevent the election of Donald J. Trump as the next President of the United States by use of the ballot box.
Even if it means you might have to be called for jury duty!

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun May 08, 2016 11:55 am

New Jerzylvania wrote:After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.

after listening to him on meet the press....mygod that man has nothing to say about anything but himself and how he feels about other people.
whatever

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Postby Dinake » Sun May 08, 2016 12:16 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Dinake wrote:The GOP party apparatus has experience with semi-populist, unorthodox outsiders- but all of them have been religious conservatives. If they treat Trump like that, they'll get burned.


He's already got them soaked in Trump jet fuel. Is Paul Ryan's new nickname Sparky?

I don't think it'll be Paul Ryan who starts the conflagration. Maybe Cruz?
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-Ross Douthat, reacting to Trump's presumptive nomination.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun May 08, 2016 12:16 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.

Ryan and McCain may lose their primary battles.

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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 08, 2016 12:25 pm

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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 12:31 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:After listening to Face the Nation and Meet the Press this morning, I can boil it down to one sentence. Donald Trump and the GOP Party apparatus = a square peg fitting into a round hole.

They can try and sand off those sharp edges, but will they be able to get him to hold still for it. Likely not.


Ryan and McCain may lose their primary battles.




Highly doubt that.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sun May 08, 2016 12:34 pm

Morgantown West Virginia wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:

Ryan and McCain may lose their primary battles.



Highly doubt that.[/quote]
possible, though. Especially Ryan, one poll has him losing by five points to his pro trump opponent.

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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 12:38 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Morgantown West Virginia wrote:Ryan and McCain may lose their primary battles.



Highly doubt that.

possible, though. Especially Ryan, one poll has him losing by five points to his pro trump opponent.[/quote]


Proof?

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Postby Kelinfort » Sun May 08, 2016 12:42 pm

Morgantown West Virginia wrote:

Proof?

http://prntly.com/2016/05/07/paul-ryan- ... -new-poll/

A little biased of course, but it is the only hard data we have so far.
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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 12:57 pm

Sunday political talk show roundup

ABC's This Week
Transcript, only way to get all the Donald Trump interview without 5 links
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-tra ... d=38951757

Gary Johnson interview
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gary-joh ... d=38956151

CBS Face the Nation
Hillary Clinton interview
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gary-joh ... d=38956151

NBC's Meet the Press
Transcript, with Donald Trump interview
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/m ... 16-n570111

FOX News Sunday
Transcript, with Paul Manafort interview
http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/ ... -showdown/

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sun May 08, 2016 12:58 pm

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Postby Galloism » Sun May 08, 2016 1:01 pm

Trump: The minimum wage needs to go up, and we need to tax the wealthy more.

Thousands of republican donors suddenly cried out in terror... and were suddenly silenced.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Sun May 08, 2016 1:04 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Morgantown West Virginia wrote:

Proof?

http://prntly.com/2016/05/07/paul-ryan- ... -new-poll/

A little biased of course, but it is the only hard data we have so far.


Taking down the young charismatic Speaker will be difficult in a state like WI. I doubt it also.

McCain will be 80 years old in August, meaning he will be going on 87 by the time another elected term is finished. Voters may want someone that isn't eighty something.
Then again AZ is a state with a lot of retirees, some of whom think they are sharp as ever. McCain would be easier to see defeated than the Speaker.
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It is the solemn and patriotic duty of all true Americans to prevent the election of Donald J. Trump as the next President of the United States by use of the ballot box.
Even if it means you might have to be called for jury duty!

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Postby Yymea » Sun May 08, 2016 1:11 pm

I don't know much about the policies of each candidate, as I'm european, but I wanted to ask a question, assuming this is the right thread for this. What is the stance of Trump and Hillary on the TTIP?
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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 1:19 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:http://prntly.com/2016/05/07/paul-ryan- ... -new-poll/

A little biased of course, but it is the only hard data we have so far.


Taking down the young charismatic Speaker will be difficult in a state like WI. I doubt it also.

McCain will be 80 years old in August, meaning he will be going on 87 by the time another elected term is finished. Voters may want someone that isn't eighty something.
Then again AZ is a state with a lot of retirees, some of whom think they are sharp as ever. McCain would be easier to see defeated than the Speaker.



McCain has only one challenger that gets double digits in the most recent poll, in the primary, the general election is a different story for him though.
http://www.brcpolls.com/16/RMP%202016-I-01.pdf

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Postby Major-Tom » Sun May 08, 2016 1:22 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Morgantown West Virginia wrote:

Proof?

http://prntly.com/2016/05/07/paul-ryan- ... -new-poll/

A little biased of course, but it is the only hard data we have so far.

Yeah, I could see Ryan losing tbh.

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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 1:25 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:http://prntly.com/2016/05/07/paul-ryan- ... -new-poll/

A little biased of course, but it is the only hard data we have so far.

Yeah, I could see Ryan losing tbh.


If Ryan loses, Trump will have the whole GOP at his feet.

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Postby Hardknock » Sun May 08, 2016 1:26 pm

Galloism wrote:Trump: The minimum wage needs to go up, and we need to tax the wealthy more.

Thousands of republican donors suddenly cried out in terror... and were suddenly silenced.

But the GOP is peaceful, it has no weapons...
Youd prefer another target?
A more conservative target?
Theres always the voters.
The donors are doing just fine.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun May 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Galloism wrote:Trump: The minimum wage needs to go up, and we need to tax the wealthy more.

Thousands of republican donors suddenly cried out in terror... and were suddenly silenced.

You wonder why the Koch brothers endorsed Hillary lol.

Trump, again folks, isn't some far right ideologue, he's an authoritarian populist who'll say whatever comes to mind to get elected. He isn't as dangerous as some say he is, but he's certainly a piece of garbage coming straight from the cesspool of NYC.

Still better than Cruz, though, glad we got rid of that slimeball.

Oh well, I'm voting Libertarian, although I'm going to be existentially depressed for months after Clinton wins the election.

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Postby Morgantown West Virginia » Sun May 08, 2016 1:32 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Galloism wrote:Trump: The minimum wage needs to go up, and we need to tax the wealthy more.

Thousands of republican donors suddenly cried out in terror... and were suddenly silenced.

You wonder why the Koch brothers endorsed Hillary lol.

Trump, again folks, isn't some far right ideologue, he's an authoritarian populist who'll say whatever comes to mind to get elected. He isn't as dangerous as some say he is, but he's certainly a piece of garbage coming straight from the cesspool of NYC.

Still better than Cruz, though, glad we got rid of that slimeball.

Oh well, I'm voting Libertarian, although I'm going to be existentially depressed for months after Clinton wins the election.



Gary Johnson though, will at least get double digits, and could with how all kinds of people dislike both Clinton and Trump, could beat Ross Perot's 1992 performance by a good bit

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