US General Election Megathread: Trump vs Clinton

by **Nazeroth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:18 pm

He should have picked rand paul to balance himself out.

by **Liriena** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:18 pm

Nazeroth wrote:He should have picked rand paul to balance himself out.

Actually... yeah, that would have been a substantially better choice.

by **New Jerzylvania** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:40 pm

Liriena wrote:
Liriena wrote:Nope. The internet already reached a consensus on it, and the fact that "TP" means one thing, and one thing alone: the mighty Cornholio is back!

And then it got even better.

That TP ass wipe ticket is just plain Charmin. :lol2:

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:01 pm

Cymrea wrote:There are some rumours floating about that Trump regrets naming Pence, and may be looking for a way to reverse his decision. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?

Honestly ,at this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

by **Novus America** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:03 pm

Corrian wrote:
Cymrea wrote:There are some rumours floating about that Trump regrets naming Pence, and may be looking for a way to reverse his decision. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?

Honestly ,at this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

Trump doing something stupid and short sighted without thinking and then backtracking? Yeah he does that a lot.

About me · by **Luziyca** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:06 pm

Liriena wrote:Oh dear... the Trump-Pence logo is out, and it's kiiiiiiinky.

Interesting choice for a logo.

by **Alien Space Bats** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:09 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:Just received an email with some interesting predictions by the Economist Intelligence Unit:
- They expect Clinton to win and serve one term
- They expect the Senate to go blue, but the House to remain red
- They expect the business cycle will turn in 2019
- The recession from the turn will lead to a GOP victory in 2020 with small concessions made on immigration policy
- They expect union influence to weaken in the Dems as they grow more in favour of free trade and the GOP will grow more protectionist/anti-globalisation, and this big shift will be the determining factor of the next political realignment

I think they're half right.

THIS YEAR will be the realignment election, as the GOP essentially turns full fascist. Their protectionism and populism will attract a great many lower and middle-income voters, but their protectionism will alienate business interests, who will switch parties accordingly.

The result? The division between parties in America won't be between liberals and conservatives, as both parties will end up with their share of each. Rather, going forward, the division will be between those who want the current Constitutional system of rights and balanced powers under judicial review to continue and those who want to sweep it away in favor of unfettered strongman rule.

by **Alien Space Bats** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:17 pm

Ailiailia wrote:"Trump/Pence" doesn't roll off the tongue does it?
Safe pick anyway.

Say it fast, like you're singing that song from Mary Poppins: "Trump-Pence, Trumppence, Trumpence a bag..."

by **USS Monitor** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:26 pm

Liriena wrote:Oh dear... the Trump-Pence logo is out, and it's kiiiiiiinky.

And people give Libertarians crap for saying "feel the Johnson"? Trump doesn't even have the excuse of having an unfortunate name or his supporters making up weird shit without asking him.

by **USS Monitor** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:30 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:He should have picked rand paul to balance himself out.

Actually... yeah, that would have been a substantially better choice.

Assuming Rand Paul wanted anything to do with Trump... Why would Rand want to ruin his reputation like that?

by **Alien Space Bats** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:38 pm

Clearly, Trump's inner teenager is out of control. "We're going to teepee America!"

Just remember, the job isn't finished 'til the paperwork is done.

by **New Jerzylvania** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:00 pm

Corrian wrote:
Cymrea wrote:There are some rumours floating about that Trump regrets naming Pence, and may be looking for a way to reverse his decision. Anyone know if there's any substance to that?

Honestly ,at this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

CNN's Dana Bash confirmed it a few minutes ago. What an amazingly indecisive moment for Trump to be let loose into the public eye. Incredible.

Meanwhile there is a military coup under way in Turkey! What a chaotic July.

by **Sane Outcasts** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:10 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Corrian wrote:Honestly ,at this point, it wouldn't surprise me.

CNN's Dana Bash confirmed it a few minutes ago. What an amazingly indecisive moment for Trump to be let loose into the public eye. Incredible.

Meanwhile there is a military coup under way in Turkey! What a chaotic July.

Combined with the Brexit and recent terrorist attacks, the election is poised to turn on foreign affair and national security issues.

by **Gauthier** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:22 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Has anyone else heard about Gingrich's comments after the Nice attack?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... in-sharia/

This includes American born citizens, just so you know. It's not just refugees or immigrants.

Land of the Free, Newt. Home of the Brave. Not chicken-shit bigots who piss their pants in fear of a small percentage of people who claim to be from a particular religion.

You'd think a percentage of the forum would be cheering on Newt.

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:05 pm

Latest RCP polls show Clinton leading Trump in Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:08 pm

Liriena wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:He should have picked rand paul to balance himself out.

Actually... yeah, that would have been a substantially better choice.

Rand Paul wouldn't have accepted anyways.

Like I said, the most likely top picks would have had to been people who have nothing to lose, or that can stand to lose what little political clout they have.

Trump has effectively made his VP pick a poisoned chalice due to his infamy in the media. I imagine Pence is one of those people who can stand to lose political clout if Trump loses, and if he wins, probably show a different face of himself at the national level.

by **Nazeroth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:10 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Liriena wrote:Actually... yeah, that would have been a substantially better choice.

Rand Paul wouldn't have accepted anyways.

Like I said, the most likely top picks would have had to been people who have nothing to lose, or that can stand to lose what little political clout they have.

Trump has effectively made his VP pick a poisoned chalice due to his infamy in the media. I imagine Pence is one of those people who can stand to lose political clout if Trump loses, and if he wins, probably show a different face of himself at the national level.

Being infamous seems to work well for clinton apparently.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:12 pm

Sane Outcasts wrote:
New Jerzylvania wrote:
CNN's Dana Bash confirmed it a few minutes ago. What an amazingly indecisive moment for Trump to be let loose into the public eye. Incredible.

Meanwhile there is a military coup under way in Turkey! What a chaotic July.

Combined with the Brexit and recent terrorist attacks, the election is poised to turn on foreign affair and national security issues.

Surprisingly, this is where most people don't focus enough on, and is where we should focus far more than in domestic policy.

The office of the president doesn't have as much power in domestic matters, with most of the power resting in Congress. If you notice, a lot of presidents enforce their foreign policy powers far more than their domestic ones.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:13 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Rand Paul wouldn't have accepted anyways.

Like I said, the most likely top picks would have had to been people who have nothing to lose, or that can stand to lose what little political clout they have.

Trump has effectively made his VP pick a poisoned chalice due to his infamy in the media. I imagine Pence is one of those people who can stand to lose political clout if Trump loses, and if he wins, probably show a different face of himself at the national level.

Being infamous seems to work well for clinton apparently.

Noone who has gone behind Clinton has yet to suffer the same fate Christie and other Republicans have when it comes to their backing of Trump.

Clinton backers are simply called "corporate sellouts". Christie was basically doused in petrol and then ignited on fire on the news he was backing Trump.

Last.FM · by **Corrian** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:14 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Latest RCP polls show Clinton leading Trump in Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia.

I have a hard time trusting polls anymore.

by **Nazeroth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:14 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Being infamous seems to work well for clinton apparently.

Noone who has gone behind Clinton has yet to suffer the same fate Christie and other Republicans have when it comes to their backing of Trump.

Im referring to the FBI madness that went down.

by **Yumyumsuppertime** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:15 pm

Corrian wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Latest RCP polls show Clinton leading Trump in Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia.

I have a hard time trusting polls anymore.

Okay?

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:16 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Noone who has gone behind Clinton has yet to suffer the same fate Christie and other Republicans have when it comes to their backing of Trump.

Im referring to the FBI madness that went down.

Republicans are still finding a way to put her behind bars, and are even conducting an investigation/hearing on the investigation Comey was head of.

The madness didn't "went" anywhere, it still goes on.

by **Kelinfort** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:16 pm

Corrian wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Latest RCP polls show Clinton leading Trump in Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, and Virginia.

I have a hard time trusting polls anymore.

Why?

by **Nazeroth** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:17 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Im referring to the FBI madness that went down.

Republicans are still finding a way to put her behind bars, and are even conducting an investigation on the investigation Comey was head of.

The madness didn't "went", it still goes on.

Good she lied to everyone and she may not have had intent she definatley knew what she was doing was unauthorized. Fuck her and her hot sauce.