US General Election Megathread: Trump vs Clinton

[Nouvel Acadie]

I think the thread needs to be renamed "Trump vs Clinton vs. Johnson."

[Washington Resistance Army]

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Eli ... ontrol.htm \
I'd guess if that's an important gripe for someone fair enough. But for me it's not.

My god.

I suddenly feel she's far less intelligent than people give her credit for.

I think the thread need to be renamed "Trump vs Clinton vs. Johnson."

I demand this be the new title.

[The balkens]

heard of a report that Warren (and others) wanted the fed to be "More diverse" . For some reason. thats the most recent one i can think of.

and i could only guess her stance on the 2nd amendment which is probably a major turn off for me.

Not sure why you think that report was worth getting upset about... It's not really a big thing.

Its a useless gesture that wont likely wont change the situation for the average American in poverty.

[USS Monitor]

Not sure why you think that report was worth getting upset about... It's not really a big thing.

Its a useless gesture that wont likely wont change the situation for the average American in poverty.

Exactly. It won't change the situation. So why does anyone care about it?

[The balkens]

My god.

I suddenly feel she's far less intelligent than people give her credit for.

Look at her present company.

rotten apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

[Uiiop]

Not sure why you think that report was worth getting upset about... It's not really a big thing.

Its a useless gesture that wont likely wont change the situation for the average American in poverty.

Why do you assume it's a useless gesture?
I am more of a wait and see type on this sort of thing.

[The balkens]

Its a useless gesture that wont likely wont change the situation for the average American in poverty.

Why do you assume it's a useless gesture?
I am more of a wait and see type on this sort of thing.

Its the goddamn fed, how is having a diversity quota going to assist in ANYTHING that it does?

[Uiiop]

Why do you assume it's a useless gesture?
I am more of a wait and see type on this sort of thing.

Its the goddamn fed, how is having a diversity quota going to assist in ANYTHING that it does?

Quota? What do Quotas have to with this? If Quotas were involved there should have been more fuss. I mean it's "Impermissible" to do at least some of that shit.\
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9clry ... FnX1k/view maybe it was hidden somewhere in the text but my gut feeling says probably not. But hey that's where all the literal shit here so who knows.

[The balkens]

Its the goddamn fed, how is having a diversity quota going to assist in ANYTHING that it does?

Quota? What do Quotas have to with this? If Quotas were involved there should have been more fuss. I mean it's "Impermissible" to do at least some of that shit.\
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9clry ... FnX1k/view maybe it was hidden somewhere in the text but my gut feeling says probably not. But hey that's where all the literal shit here so who knows.

Perhaps Quota was the wrong word.

[The Lone Alliance]

I'm surprised Anonymous hasn't realized Trump is the perfect trolltoy. The slightest poke at him and he snarls like a rabid dog.

Because Trump Trolls people too, trolls respect their own, and Trump is a professional Troll, he literally trolled his way through the primary.

Have you ever visited /pol/? Trump is basically 4chan incarnate. "Anonymous" is probably in love with him.

Either accidentally or deliberately Trump played the meme game to get them on his side, hell when he tweeted himself as a Pepe he pretty much cemented himself in Meme history.

Trump supporters completely took over the chans and are even making a good case of taking whole parts of Reddit as well. It's a mess.

[Uiiop]

Quota? What do Quotas have to with this? If Quotas were involved there should have been more fuss. I mean it's "Impermissible" to do at least some of that shit.\
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9clry ... FnX1k/view maybe it was hidden somewhere in the text but my gut feeling says probably not. But hey that's where all the literal shit here so who knows.

Perhaps Quota was the wrong word.

Figures. Still it's a bit odd you ask when the letter and the article Liriena gave you some answers to that question . that and the letter didn't say " Get more diverse so that you are helping." It says "Get more diverse AND foucus our attentions on the impact our polices have on these people." Granted the letter thinks that those are intertwined "Increasing diversity at the Federal Reserve will help ensure that the needs of people of color, women, labor, and consumers are part of the crucial conversations at our nation’s central bank.”

[Kelinfort]

I think Johnson's numbers are a bit inflated by disgruntled Sanders supporters. People like the idea of choice, but have no clue what the guy stands for. The Libertarians could get 4% if they're really lucky, but not much more.

[Kelinfort]

Why not? Sure, Clinton isn't the best thing ever, but Warren is pretty great.

let me put this in a way only i would describe.

Clinton i cant stand, Warren i....just dont like.

There are INDESCRIBABLE things id rather do to myself then have a democratic ticket featuring either of them.

You can't stand her but then call Clinton a handpicked corporate shill?

You have more in common with regressive lefties than you think.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Warren....outside of the progressive camp, she isn't all that well liked.

I can't imagine she's particularly well liked today among progressives, now that she's betrayed the very progressive ideals she claimed to fight for.

She's disliked among a small but loud portion of Bernie supporters. Her bona fides were established long ago.

[Kelinfort]

I can't imagine she's particularly well liked today among progressives, now that she's betrayed the very progressive ideals she claimed to fight for.

She's disliked among a small but loud portion of Bernie supporters. Her bona fides were established long ago.

"But my socialis-er I mean, my progressivism!"

[Maurepas]

I think the thread needs to be renamed "Trump vs Clinton vs. Johnson."

I'm not necessarily opposed, but I think the same could be said for Jill Stein or Gloria LaRiva. I think ultimately the same rules used to get Third Party candidates support from the Federal Government and included on televised debates can be used here. Johnson isn't quite there yet, but I think he has a shot of getting there with so many disaffected in the two major parties.

[USS Monitor]

I think Johnson's numbers are a bit inflated by disgruntled Sanders supporters. People like the idea of choice, but have no clue what the guy stands for. The Libertarians could get 4% if they're really lucky, but not much more.

3rd party numbers are normally inflated this time of year because of people disgruntled from the primaries. They usually drop by about half.

[USS Monitor]

I think the thread needs to be renamed "Trump vs Clinton vs. Johnson."

I'm not necessarily opposed, but I think the same could be said for Jill Stein or Gloria LaRiva. I think ultimately the same rules used to get Third Party candidates support from the Federal Government and included on televised debates can be used here. Johnson isn't quite there yet, but I think he has a shot of getting there with so many disaffected in the two major parties.

Who's Gloria LaRiva?

[Maurepas]

I'm not necessarily opposed, but I think the same could be said for Jill Stein or Gloria LaRiva. I think ultimately the same rules used to get Third Party candidates support from the Federal Government and included on televised debates can be used here. Johnson isn't quite there yet, but I think he has a shot of getting there with so many disaffected in the two major parties.

Who's Gloria LaRiva?

My point exactly, lol. She is the nonimee for President for the Party for Socialism and Liberation. If we're merely including "all the candidates" she would certainly qualify, but that party hasn't hit requirements for general inclusion in general election debates in that regard, which is about 15% in national polling, IIRC.

[USS Monitor]

Who's Gloria LaRiva?

My point exactly, lol. She is the nonimee for President for the Party for Socialism and Liberation. If we're merely including "all the candidates" she would certainly qualify, but that party hasn't hit requirements for general inclusion in general election debates in that regard, which is about 15% in national polling, IIRC.

Is she on the ballot in anywhere? I think there's a meaningful difference between 3rd parties like the LP and the Greens that make the ballot in several states and the smaller parties that don't even make the ballot. I mean most people are aware of the LP and Greens' existence even if they aren't intimately familiar and don't vote for them.

[Maurepas]

My point exactly, lol. She is the nonimee for President for the Party for Socialism and Liberation. If we're merely including "all the candidates" she would certainly qualify, but that party hasn't hit requirements for general inclusion in general election debates in that regard, which is about 15% in national polling, IIRC.

Is she on the ballot in anywhere? I think there's a meaningful difference between 3rd parties like the LP and the Greens that make the ballot in several states and the smaller parties that don't even make the ballot. I mean most people are aware of the LP and Greens' existence even if they aren't intimately familiar and don't vote for them.

Yeah, not all states, but she'll be on the ballot in some of them. My point really is that there is a system for it and I think it'll be pretty simple to use that for naming this thread. I think I read that a Fox News poll has Johnson at 12%, so he's close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for ... ticipation

[Washington Resistance Army]

Is she on the ballot in anywhere? I think there's a meaningful difference between 3rd parties like the LP and the Greens that make the ballot in several states and the smaller parties that don't even make the ballot. I mean most people are aware of the LP and Greens' existence even if they aren't intimately familiar and don't vote for them.

Yeah, not all states, but she'll be on the ballot in some of them. My point really is that there is a system for it and I think it'll be pretty simple to use that for naming this thread. I think I read that a Fox News poll has Johnson at 12%, so he's close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for ... ticipation

Yep, 12% currently and with any luck he'll keep climbing.

Man I hope we get debate access.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

Yeah, not all states, but she'll be on the ballot in some of them. My point really is that there is a system for it and I think it'll be pretty simple to use that for naming this thread. I think I read that a Fox News poll has Johnson at 12%, so he's close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for ... ticipation

Yep, 12% currently and with any luck he'll keep climbing.

Man I hope we get debate access.

So do I. Not a libertarian, but all the same, it'd be cool.

[USS Monitor]

Yep, 12% currently and with any luck he'll keep climbing.

Man I hope we get debate access.

So do I. Not a libertarian, but all the same, it'd be cool.

Well if any pollsters call, tell them you support Johnson. You can still vote for whoever you want in the actual election, no matter what you tell pollsters.

[Maurepas]

Yeah, not all states, but she'll be on the ballot in some of them. My point really is that there is a system for it and I think it'll be pretty simple to use that for naming this thread. I think I read that a Fox News poll has Johnson at 12%, so he's close.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for ... ticipation

Yep, 12% currently and with any luck he'll keep climbing.

Man I hope we get debate access.

So do I, not only would I like some clarification of Johnson's stances on some things, but I would like to see Hillary and to a lesser extent Trump's responses to his points.