Make America Great Britain Again

[Ifreann]

People already freak out when they hear about countries outside Europe competing in the Eurovision, they'd lose their minds if the US basically joined the EU.

I thought Eurovision was a hot potato no country wants to be caught hosting. The U.S. would have a Spongebob glazed look happily hosting it until the end of humanity.

That's just what people say when they lose.

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True, but George W. Bush was far more insane.

Still would choose James "Mad Dog" Mattis over the queen.

You don't get to choose your monarch. That's the whole point.

[Noraika]

It seems that the next President of the former colonies is going to be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Since those are two terrible, terrible choices, what if the Americans made Elizabeth II Queen of the United States?former colonies

That statement in blue above seems to be misleading. The UK. had 13 former colonies which tended to huge the Atlantic coast. A larger portion of what is today the US was under the Spanish Monarchy. So would it not make more sense to bring in the current Spanish Bourbon Monarchy.

The difference lies in the fact that those 13 colonies maintained sovereignty, and now preside over the entirety of the USA. They are simply the continuation government of this, and the lands under different monarchies was seceded or purchased from them, so their claims are no longer legitimate there. Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, is the rightful sovereign of all lands and territories governed by the United States. Not just the colonies they started out as.

[Zaurell]

Did they really?

Yes: https://newrepublic.com/article/63773/what-jefferson-said

Never would have guessed. Updating the Constitution is a good idea though.

[Eisen Choras]

I thought Eurovision was a hot potato no country wants to be caught hosting. The U.S. would have a Spongebob glazed look happily hosting it until the end of humanity.

That's just what people say when they lose.

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Still would choose James "Mad Dog" Mattis over the queen.

You don't get to choose your monarch. That's the whole point.

I know, that is why Mattis is monarch. She thought she was queen of the US, but was overthrown by the retired marine!

[Barboneia]

If we'd all be forced to have English accents I'd be fine with it.

[Ifreann]

If we'd all be forced to have English accents I'd be fine with it.

You will, but they'll be regional English accents that most Americans will never have heard before.

[Rio Cana]

That statement in blue above seems to be misleading. The UK. had 13 former colonies which tended to huge the Atlantic coast. A larger portion of what is today the US was under the Spanish Monarchy. So would it not make more sense to bring in the current Spanish Bourbon Monarchy.

The difference lies in the fact that those 13 colonies maintained sovereignty, and now preside over the entirety of the USA. They are simply the continuation government of this, and the lands under different monarchies was seceded or purchased from them, so their claims are no longer legitimate there. Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, is the rightful sovereign of all lands and territories governed by the United States. Not just the colonies they started out as.

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.

[Ranko Kanzaki]

Ugh. I'd take Trump over emulating the UK.

[Vassenor]

Ugh. I'd take Trump over emulating the UK.

Why is that?

[Barboneia]

If we'd all be forced to have English accents I'd be fine with it.

You will, but they'll be regional English accents that most Americans will never have heard before.

I just want to sound like Postman Pat. Darn.

[Noraika]

The difference lies in the fact that those 13 colonies maintained sovereignty, and now preside over the entirety of the USA. They are simply the continuation government of this, and the lands under different monarchies was seceded or purchased from them, so their claims are no longer legitimate there. Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, is the rightful sovereign of all lands and territories governed by the United States. Not just the colonies they started out as.

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.

As a native Californian, I can tell you quite bluntly, that the history of a seal does not determine the legitimacy of the monarchy. That's not how it works. Many areas of the United States don't have symbols of the British monarchy because of American independence from the monarchy, and the historical rulers of each area. With that said, because the territories involved were surrendered or purchased, and because hey are under the rulership of a country which has its legitimate monarchy in the United Kingdom, they are now within the legitimate domain of the British Monarchy, while the treaties for seceding territory or purchase of territory removed all claim to the lands of other monarchies.

Legitimacy is not represented by mere symbols, but by the current and present now. If Canada suddenly gained all of Mexico, for example, then all of Mexico would be the legitimate domain of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, as it is now within her sovereign territory. All of the United States is the rightful domain of the British monarchy.

[Communist Xomaniax]

No. Hillary isn't any worse a President than the last few guys who were PM across the pond. You're not smarter than us, you're not better than us, and your leadership is every bit as corrupt and shitty as ours will ever be. Besides, given the power and size disparity, it's infinitely more likely that Britain's constituent nations would be annexed as individual States, not that I support that either.

[Calimera II]

Elizabeth doesn't do shit.

[Rio Cana]

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Santa_Fe_logo%2C_alternate.png[/img] Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.
As a native Californian, I can tell you quite bluntly, that the history of a seal does not determine the legitimacy of the monarchy. That's not how it works. Many areas of the United States don't have symbols of the British monarchy because of American independence from the monarchy, and the historical rulers of each area. With that said, because the territories involved were surrendered or purchased, and because hey are under the rulership of a country which has its legitimate monarchy in the United Kingdom, they are now within the legitimate domain of the British Monarchy, while the treaties for seceding territory or purchase of territory removed all claim to the lands of other monarchies.

Legitimacy is not represented by mere symbols, but by the current and present now. If Canada suddenly gained all of Mexico, for example, then all of Mexico would be the legitimate domain of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, as it is now within her sovereign territory. All of the United States is the rightful domain of the British monarchy.

No. Seems you forgot the small print which says "if you give up claim it reverts to previous owner" .

For example, Spain expects if the UK. ever gets out of the Rock that it would revert to them.

[Communist Xomaniax]

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

(Image) Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.

As a native Californian, I can tell you quite bluntly, that the history of a seal does not determine the legitimacy of the monarchy. That's not how it works. Many areas of the United States don't have symbols of the British monarchy because of American independence from the monarchy, and the historical rulers of each area. With that said, because the territories involved were surrendered or purchased, and because hey are under the rulership of a country which has its legitimate monarchy in the United Kingdom, they are now within the legitimate domain of the British Monarchy, while the treaties for seceding territory or purchase of territory removed all claim to the lands of other monarchies.

Legitimacy is not represented by mere symbols, but by the current and present now. If Canada suddenly gained all of Mexico, for example, then all of Mexico would be the legitimate domain of Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, as it is now within her sovereign territory. All of the United States is the rightful domain of the British monarchy.

If territory stops being a nation's domain when they surrender their claim, than Britain formally lost any claim to the US when they signed a peace treaty and recognized us as a sovereign, independent nation.

[Yorkers]

The difference lies in the fact that those 13 colonies maintained sovereignty, and now preside over the entirety of the USA. They are simply the continuation government of this, and the lands under different monarchies was seceded or purchased from them, so their claims are no longer legitimate there. Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, is the rightful sovereign of all lands and territories governed by the United States. Not just the colonies they started out as.

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.

Your conceptions of American history regarding westward expansion are glaringly inaccurate, and your anti-Anglo, pro-Latin bias is irritating.

[Old Tyrannia]

I'm not averse to the idea.

It seems that the next President of the former colonies is going to be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. Since those are two terrible, terrible choices, what if the Americans made Elizabeth II Queen of the United States?former colonies

That statement in blue above seems to be misleading. The UK. had 13 former colonies which tended to huge the Atlantic coast. A larger portion of what is today the US was under the Spanish Monarchy. So would it not make more sense to bring in the current Spanish Bourbon Monarchy.

King Felipe VI can have the southern bits of the US. The rest of North America belongs to the House of Windsor.

[Calimera II]

Tell that to the power states which are California, Texas and Florida.

One of the oldest State Capitals in the US is Santa Fe New Mexico. The following is there current seal.

(Image) Nothing on that seal related to the UK. monarchy. But there are symbols of the Spanish monarchy.

Your conceptions of American history regarding westward expansion are glaringly inaccurate, and your anti-Anglo, pro-Latin bias is irritating.

I know Rio Cana good enough to say that he does not have an "anti-Anglo, pro-Latin bias." Instead of telling people that they are wrong due to some kind of an invented bias, tell why you disagree with them.

[Dooom35796821595]

Elizabeth doesn't do shit.

She actually does more for the UK then any PM. The fact she doesn't do anything political is a primary selling point.

[Communist Xomaniax]

I'm not averse to the idea.

That statement in blue above seems to be misleading. The UK. had 13 former colonies which tended to huge the Atlantic coast. A larger portion of what is today the US was under the Spanish Monarchy. So would it not make more sense to bring in the current Spanish Bourbon Monarchy.

King Felipe VI can have the southern bits of the US. The rest of North America belongs to the House of Windsor.

You mean Britain belongs to the US as the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, and 54th States.

[Yorkers]

Your conceptions of American history regarding westward expansion are glaringly inaccurate, and your anti-Anglo, pro-Latin bias is irritating.

I know Rio Cana good enough to say that he does not have an "anti-Anglo, pro-Latin bias." Instead of telling people that they are wrong due to some kind of an invented bias, tell why you disagree with them.

The reason why California, Texas, and Florida are "power states" has absolutely nothing to do with inconsequential Spanish histories and everything to do with American industrialization and financial proliferation in the 20th Century.

[Old Tyrannia]

I'm not averse to the idea.

King Felipe VI can have the southern bits of the US. The rest of North America belongs to the House of Windsor.

You mean Britain belongs to the US as the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, and 54th States.

Well, no. That'd just be silly.

[Souseiseki]

You mean Britain belongs to the US as the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, and 54th States.

Well, no. That'd just be silly.

well, yeah, obviously, they forgot the 55th, which appeases the cornish menance and also brings it up to a nice divisble by 5 number

[Yorkers]

You mean Britain belongs to the US as the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, and 54th States.

Well, no. That'd just be silly.

A US annexation of Britain is significantly more likely than America becoming a monarchy.

[The Tirol Region]

People already freak out when they hear about countries outside Europe competing in the Eurovision, they'd lose their minds if the US basically joined the EU.

No, France already owns several external states. E.G. French Guiana uses the euro and is part of the eu yet it's in S. America