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UK Politics Thread III: Thready McThreadface (+ Jo Cox)

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:38 am
by Vassenor
Figured I'd take the initiative here, since it's been a couple of days since we over-ran the last one and no-one's tried to replace it.

Zach Goldsmith is determined to prove he's a "man of the people", but fudges an attempt to compare himself to Leicester City.

Universal Credit veering off track, Resolution Foundation says

So yeah. Let the madness begin.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:40 am
by AiliailiA
The thread title is open to editing I assume. Bit of nip and tuck.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 4:21 am
by Napkiraly
Ailiailia wrote:The thread title is open to editing I assume. Bit of nip and tuck.

We voted on it last time damn it. Thready McThreadface shall stay!

But yeah, Goldsmith continues to make himself look like a cock, not surprising.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 5:13 am
by The Matthew Islands
Ailiailia wrote:The thread title is open to editing I assume. Bit of nip and tuck.

Typical foreigner, cuming in ere and tryin to change r fred names. It's a discrace.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 5:27 am
by Kainesia
Oh I don't like the look of this. Archman don't like it when you steal his threads.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 6:56 am
by Salandriagado
From previous thread. All quotes from Moctina.


On your last point, you are wrong. A bad, failing state school in Southampton where over 50% of students live in low income families is going to have far worse behaviour than Eton.


Having spent a lot of time in schools (including, say, my entire education up to the age of 18) that fit every part of that definition apart from being in Southampton, I can safely say that you are wrong.

On your other point, the idea that you would sacrifice good children to make others 'feel better' or in the 'name of equality' is evil- totally & utterly evil. It is exactly the same sort of person who claims this sort of argument who then goes dead-against the idea that people from private schools dominate media, government, the justice system- how can we expect more state educated students to get high positions in our society, when they are not allowed to flourish?


That is not even slightly what I said, at all. Stop lying. You seem to think that stress helps people. Surely having to work in realistic situations (surrounded by problems) is far better preparation for the future than being sheltered from all of that. This is exactly and precisely the same argument that you are applying to students in general.

But if I had a habit like that, and I couldn't control my smoking, I would quit. But this is besides the point.


That is not even slightly how biology works.

Teachers must be given space- their progress reviewed carefully in comparison to student's personal condition in terms of home life, intelligence, class size etc, etc. My point, however, still stands.


And who the fuck is going to spend that much time doing that? And who the fuck is going to pay for it? Because it sure as fuck isn't the schools: they can barely afford to keep running, let alone spend a fortune running something like that.

That is what I gathered from the post. Pushing children to be in the same classes would stem progress, thus it being against our children, thus it being evil. What other reason other than 'equality' would there be for doing this?


No, that is the bullshit that you made up. At no point did I argue against splitting students into classes within a school based on ability. The reason is exactly the one that you gave: it's valuable life experience. I'm literally taking your argument, damn near word for word, and applying it to a group of people that you are better able to empathise with. The fact that your immediate response is that it's evil should tell you how fucking awful your argument (which, I remind you, is exactly the same) was.

But exposing them to high levels of bad behaviour to make teaching 'easier' (how it will do this is bewildering) at a young age will be a bad influence, and at an older age will disrupt their exams.


Again, the idea that this is to make teaching easier is something that you have made up. Try reading my posts and responding to their content, rather than making up your own targets to argue with.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:07 am
by Kelinfort
Oh shit, I didn't actually think this option would win :p

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:08 am
by Val Halla
Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:11 am
by Dooom35796821595
Val Halla wrote:Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.


Probably anticipating the test that tests a seven year olds capability to take their test. Did I mention the UKs obsession with tests? :p

*edit* it's like a Monty Python sketch, test, test, test with some test and tests.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:31 am
by Questers
Hello ye men of valour.

Really craving a bit of this right now.

Image

Can't wait to get back to blighty.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:36 am
by Ifreann
Val Halla wrote:Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.

Parents have gone on strike? How does that work?

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:44 am
by Val Halla
Ifreann wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.

Parents have gone on strike? How does that work?

Not taking their kids to school

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:47 am
by Rufford
We should be onto UK Politics Thread IIII: Boris was always right ( if we leave the EU) soon

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 7:57 am
by Frank Zipper
Val Halla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Parents have gone on strike? How does that work?

Not taking their kids to school


Particularly in Leicester.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:09 am
by Rufford
Frank Zipper wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Not taking their kids to school


Particularly in Leicester.

Oh yes, don't belive it
Also everyone, our posh friend Mocina appears to have commited suicide
Image RIP

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:10 am
by Questers
Civil rights outlawed. LOL

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:12 am
by Rufford
Questers wrote:Civil rights outlawed. LOL

Maybe they have made a new nation because there old one was so crap.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:12 am
by Val Halla
Frank Zipper wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Not taking their kids to school


Particularly in Leicester.

I'm honestly amazed Leicester still exists tbh.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:13 am
by Rufford
Val Halla wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:
Particularly in Leicester.

I'm honestly amazed Leicester still exists tbh.

Jamie Vardy is litterally having a party.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:16 am
by Pachenstein
Val Halla wrote:Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.


Actions speak louder than words. In fact, I'd love to see women strike over the pay gap because this issue that has been talked about for decades would likely be solved in less than a week.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:21 am
by Rufford
Pachenstein wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Education in the uk is getting so ridiculous that primary school parents have gone on strike. Wow.


Actions speak louder than words. In fact, I'd love to see women strike over the pay gap because this issue that has been talked about for decades would likely be solved in less than a week.

I thing JR Doctors has been going on for more than a week.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:25 am
by New Assam
Rufford wrote:
Pachenstein wrote:
Actions speak louder than words. In fact, I'd love to see women strike over the pay gap because this issue that has been talked about for decades would likely be solved in less than a week.

I thing JR Doctors has been going on for more than a week.


I'm honestly surprised the Tories haven't backed down on that yet. They've done so many u-turns in a year that another one wouldn't even damage the government. Now's the best time for it with everyone up in arms about Labour.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:32 am
by Communist EU
Rufford wrote:We should be onto UK Politics Thread IIII: Boris was always right ( if we leave the EU) soon

Speaking of eurosceptics, Nigel Farage's apparent EU bodyguard bill.
'UKIP’s Farage racks up £15k daily EU bill on bodyguards who fetch ‘refreshments’'
https://www.rt.com/uk/341675-ukip-nigel ... odyguards/

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:33 am
by Rufford
New Assam wrote:
Rufford wrote:I thing JR Doctors has been going on for more than a week.


I'm honestly surprised the Tories haven't backed down on that yet. They've done so many u-turns in a year that another one wouldn't even damage the government. Now's the best time for it with everyone up in arms about Labour.

I think Cameron wants to wait till after the referendum, then get rid of Mr. Cunt i mean Hunt (OK i got that of private eye) and get Boris into health.

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 8:41 am
by Olivaero
Anyone know of any really recent polling for the London mayoral election and have a link to hand? Just wondering what effect all the Anti-semite stuff has actually had on Sadiq's chances, I get the feeling it actually isn't much and it hasn't had much effect on Labours numbers anywhere really but I'd like to see and a quick google doesn't seem to be aiding me.