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Which of the following would you prefer to be the next leader of the Conservative Party?

Andrea Leadsom
27
18%
Liam Fox
7
5%
Michael Gove
17
11%
Stephen Crabb
6
4%
Theresa May
38
25%
Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz
57
38%
 
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Postby Valaran » Sat May 07, 2016 9:23 am

Lamadia wrote:I lived (live) in London, in the Kensginston- Chelsea area, and no, it does not feel like Shaira law at all. Anybody who suggest that is generally a nonsensical, biased bigot, with very little grasp of the fantastic city.
Yes, there are dangerous areas I would not go to alone, however they are few and far between, especially now, as the capital is lighter, there is more CCTV, it is busier. As with any city, you would not go into the back-alleys of a back neighbourhood; that does not make London any more unsafe than any other city- vice-versa, in fact.

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Postby Val Halla » Sat May 07, 2016 9:26 am

When I went to London there was some people wearing Islamic veils. I didn't get stabbed or anything, and I was holding hands with my girlfriend.
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Postby Elepis » Sat May 07, 2016 9:59 am

Lamadia wrote:I lived (live) in London, in the Kensginston- Chelsea area, and no, it does not feel like Shaira law at all. Anybody who suggest that is generally a nonsensical, biased bigot, with very little grasp of the fantastic city.
Yes, there are dangerous areas I would not go to alone, however they are few and far between, especially now, as the capital is lighter, there is more CCTV, it is busier. As with any city, you would not go into the back-alleys of a back neighbourhood; that does not make London any more unsafe than any other city- vice-versa, in fact.


That I must agree with. I lived first in Tower Hamlets (large Muslim community) and never felt particularly threatened by Islam/Sharia/Muslims (by some idiots yes, not by Islam) and the same is true for when I lived in Camden.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat May 07, 2016 10:28 am

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Lamadia wrote:I lived (live) in London, in the Kensginston- Chelsea area, and no, it does not feel like Shaira law at all. Anybody who suggest that is generally a nonsensical, biased bigot, with very little grasp of the fantastic city.
Yes, there are dangerous areas I would not go to alone, however they are few and far between, especially now, as the capital is lighter, there is more CCTV, it is busier. As with any city, you would not go into the back-alleys of a back neighbourhood; that does not make London any more unsafe than any other city- vice-versa, in fact.


That I must agree with. I lived first in Tower Hamlets (large Muslim community) and never felt particularly threatened by Islam/Sharia/Muslims (by some idiots yes, not by Islam) and the same is true for when I lived in Camden.


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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 10:47 am

Lamadia wrote:I lived (live) in London, in the Kensginston- Chelsea area, and no, it does not feel like Shaira law at all. Anybody who suggest that is generally a nonsensical, biased bigot, with very little grasp of the fantastic city.
Yes, there are dangerous areas I would not go to alone, however they are few and far between, especially now, as the capital is lighter, there is more CCTV, it is busier. As with any city, you would not go into the back-alleys of a back neighbourhood; that does not make London any more unsafe than any other city- vice-versa, in fact.

I live in a what you would call "rough" area of a city and spend half my time in back streets, i'm not a terrorist.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 11:01 am

Rufford wrote:
Lamadia wrote:I lived (live) in London, in the Kensginston- Chelsea area, and no, it does not feel like Shaira law at all. Anybody who suggest that is generally a nonsensical, biased bigot, with very little grasp of the fantastic city.
Yes, there are dangerous areas I would not go to alone, however they are few and far between, especially now, as the capital is lighter, there is more CCTV, it is busier. As with any city, you would not go into the back-alleys of a back neighbourhood; that does not make London any more unsafe than any other city- vice-versa, in fact.

I live in a what you would call "rough" area of a city and spend half my time in back streets, i'm not a terrorist.

Nobody is suggesting you are, sweetie.
All I said was that the backstreets, the alleyways, the dark areas of London ,are, evidently, not safe for a young girl at night. At no point did I mean that people who live in those areas were terrorists, or even criminals. Just that they are, obviously, more dangerous at night.
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 11:03 am

Lamadia wrote:
Rufford wrote:I live in a what you would call "rough" area of a city and spend half my time in back streets, i'm not a terrorist.

Nobody is suggesting you are, sweetie.
All I said was that the backstreets, the alleyways, the dark areas of London ,are, evidently, not safe for a young girl at night. At no point did I mean that people who live in those areas were terrorists, or even criminals. Just that they are, obviously, more dangerous at night.

There are some really dodgy bits not far from me, i live quite close to some of the most deprived communities in Britain.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 11:05 am

Rufford wrote:
Lamadia wrote:Nobody is suggesting you are, sweetie.
All I said was that the backstreets, the alleyways, the dark areas of London ,are, evidently, not safe for a young girl at night. At no point did I mean that people who live in those areas were terrorists, or even criminals. Just that they are, obviously, more dangerous at night.

There are some really dodgy bits not far from me, i live quite close to some of the most deprived communities in Britain.

I am sorry to hear that.
Likewise, there are lovely areas in Liverpool (that is where you are from?) My parents bought a house in Shireburn R, to rent out, which is a lovely area of the city- very bright architecture, very safe surrounding streets.
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 11:09 am

Lamadia wrote:
Rufford wrote:There are some really dodgy bits not far from me, i live quite close to some of the most deprived communities in Britain.

I am sorry to hear that.
Likewise, there are lovely areas in Liverpool (that is where you are from?) My parents bought a house in Shireburn R, to rent out, which is a lovely area of the city- very bright architecture, very safe surrounding streets.

The middle is really nice and there is a really fancy bit where i think the Liverpool/Everton players probably live about 20/30 minuet walk from me.
I think its good that its a Labour city and i think Andy Burnham is very good, Labour may be good at running Liverpool, but not Britain.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 11:11 am

Rufford wrote:
Lamadia wrote:I am sorry to hear that.
Likewise, there are lovely areas in Liverpool (that is where you are from?) My parents bought a house in Shireburn R, to rent out, which is a lovely area of the city- very bright architecture, very safe surrounding streets.

The middle is really ice and there is a really fancy bit where i think the Liverpool/Everton players probably live about 20/30 minuet walk from me.

Yes, I am familiar with the area. I wouldn't want to live that far North, but it is a beautiful place, certainly.
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 11:12 am

Lamadia wrote:
Rufford wrote:The middle is really ice and there is a really fancy bit where i think the Liverpool/Everton players probably live about 20/30 minuet walk from me.

Yes, I am familiar with the area. I wouldn't want to live that far North, but it is a beautiful place, certainly.

Don't get started on the north.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 11:13 am

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Lamadia wrote:Yes, I am familiar with the area. I wouldn't want to live that far North, but it is a beautiful place, certainly.

Don't get started on the north.

Why, it isn't bad at all? A little cheaper property prices, a mildly different landscape, but otherwise, there are plenty of lovely, lovely places.
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Postby Elepis » Sat May 07, 2016 11:17 am

Lamadia wrote:
Rufford wrote:Don't get started on the north.

Why, it isn't bad at all? A little cheaper property prices, a mildly different landscape, but otherwise, there are plenty of lovely, lovely places.


I used to live in London, now I live in Southport (oddly a few miles north of Liverpool) and I am thankful everyday that my SO dragged me up here from London. An actual house, peaceful, the Lake District just down the road, no endless traffic jams. Yes culture is a little lacking but I think my quality of life has improved since we moved.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 11:36 am

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Lamadia wrote:Why, it isn't bad at all? A little cheaper property prices, a mildly different landscape, but otherwise, there are plenty of lovely, lovely places.


I used to live in London, now I live in Southport (oddly a few miles north of Liverpool) and I am thankful everyday that my SO dragged me up here from London. An actual house, peaceful, the Lake District just down the road, no endless traffic jams. Yes culture is a little lacking but I think my quality of life has improved since we moved.

I live in VW, Surrey, just below London- it can be reached by a very short drive or an even shorter train ride. There is lots of countryside whilst still being in contact with the capital; very efficient. That is my only issue with the North, really- it is very far away from London, which is an issue if you work there.
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 1:04 pm

Lamadia wrote:
Elepis wrote:
I used to live in London, now I live in Southport (oddly a few miles north of Liverpool) and I am thankful everyday that my SO dragged me up here from London. An actual house, peaceful, the Lake District just down the road, no endless traffic jams. Yes culture is a little lacking but I think my quality of life has improved since we moved.

I live in VW, Surrey, just below London- it can be reached by a very short drive or an even shorter train ride. There is lots of countryside whilst still being in contact with the capital; very efficient. That is my only issue with the North, really- it is very far away from London, which is an issue if you work there.

There are jobs here, and i know this will start the madness so ill just say HS2.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 1:08 pm

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Lamadia wrote:I live in VW, Surrey, just below London- it can be reached by a very short drive or an even shorter train ride. There is lots of countryside whilst still being in contact with the capital; very efficient. That is my only issue with the North, really- it is very far away from London, which is an issue if you work there.

There are jobs here, and i know this will start the madness so ill just say HS2.

Yes, I am well aware that there are jobs there, and yes, HS2 will fix things massively.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat May 07, 2016 1:11 pm

Lamadia wrote:
Rufford wrote:There are jobs here, and i know this will start the madness so ill just say HS2.

Yes, I am well aware that there are jobs there, and yes, HS2 will fix things massively.


Apart from the fact that the local geology means that trains won't be able to run at speed on parts of the route.
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 1:16 pm

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Lamadia wrote:Yes, I am well aware that there are jobs there, and yes, HS2 will fix things massively.


Apart from the fact that the local geology means that trains won't be able to run at speed on parts of the route.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 1LDBa9bD4A
There are major benefits to the plan, including increasing the North-South relationship in terms of jobs & the economy.
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Postby Val Halla » Sat May 07, 2016 1:17 pm

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Lamadia wrote:Yes, I am well aware that there are jobs there, and yes, HS2 will fix things massively.


Apart from the fact that the local geology means that trains won't be able to run at speed on parts of the route.

When I get the train from Donny to Leeds the only time it slows down is in the cities, same when I went down to London
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Postby Vassenor » Sat May 07, 2016 1:19 pm

Lamadia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Apart from the fact that the local geology means that trains won't be able to run at speed on parts of the route.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 1LDBa9bD4A
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Postby Lamadia » Sat May 07, 2016 1:24 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Lamadia wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... 1LDBa9bD4A
There are major benefits to the plan, including increasing the North-South relationship in terms of jobs & the economy.


Until the ground under the track subsides and the whole thing falls apart.

Thank you for that; very interesting.
I am sure these faults will have to be corrected, and they obviously will be. The idea of the plan is a good one, however, although this article & several others show that it is still in its early stages.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat May 07, 2016 1:55 pm

Lamadia wrote:

Thank you for that; very interesting.
I am sure these faults will have to be corrected, and they obviously will be. The idea of the plan is a good one, however, although this article & several others show that it is still in its early stages.

HS2 is argued for on the basis that British railways are a "Victorian relic", and we need to modernise.

So it proposes building an entirely new line that will have two major branches.

Leaving the rest of the country with the same Victorian relic it had before, marginally improving travel times that already were possible and leaving no possibility of funding a major rail overhaul this side of the century.
Why not instead spend the money on not having a Victorian Relic in the first place?
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 2:25 pm

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Lamadia wrote:Thank you for that; very interesting.
I am sure these faults will have to be corrected, and they obviously will be. The idea of the plan is a good one, however, although this article & several others show that it is still in its early stages.

HS2 is argued for on the basis that British railways are a "Victorian relic", and we need to modernise.

So it proposes building an entirely new line that will have two major branches.

Leaving the rest of the country with the same Victorian relic it had before, marginally improving travel times that already were possible and leaving no possibility of funding a major rail overhaul this side of the century.
Why not instead spend the money on not having a Victorian Relic in the first place?

TBH IDK if it will even get built...
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat May 07, 2016 2:26 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:HS2 is argued for on the basis that British railways are a "Victorian relic", and we need to modernise.

So it proposes building an entirely new line that will have two major branches.

Leaving the rest of the country with the same Victorian relic it had before, marginally improving travel times that already were possible and leaving no possibility of funding a major rail overhaul this side of the century.
Why not instead spend the money on not having a Victorian Relic in the first place?

TBH IDK if it will even get built...

Yeah, I'm quite surprised in the complete absence of its mention in the last like eighteen months.
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Postby Rufford » Sat May 07, 2016 2:28 pm

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Rufford wrote:TBH IDK if it will even get built...

Yeah, I'm quite surprised in the complete absence of its mention in the last like eighteen months.

I think its been overshadowed by the EU referendum and Corbyn's Labour. Maybe everyone is waiting for Boris to become PM, he loves spending money on transport.
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