UK Politics Thread III: Thready McThreadface (+ Jo Cox)

[Conscentia]

Figured I'd take the initiative here, since it's been a couple of days since we over-ran the last one and no-one's tried to replace it.

Zach Goldsmith is determined to prove he's a "man of the people", but fudges an attempt to compare himself to Leicester City.

Universal Credit veering off track, Resolution Foundation says

So yeah. Let the madness begin.

Seems incomplete without a poll.

[Communist EU]

Wouldn't they logically be playing down anti-semitism?

Also, is it "wrapped up" as in Khan is still leading? What caused BoJo to slip from favour?
I wager it's his nasty turn over the EU.

Johnson isn't standing. It's Zac Goldsmith.

It's Frank.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/b ... f544e0be73

[Conscentia]

Johnson isn't standing. It's Zac Goldsmith.

It's Frank.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/b ... f544e0be73

What's with all these politicians using their middle names instead of their first?

[Communist EU]

It's Frank.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/b ... f544e0be73

What's with all these politicians using their middle names instead of their first?

I know.

[Wolfmanne2]

Speaking to fellow Labour activists in London, this election is pretty much wrapped up. The anti-semitism thing hasn't had much of an impact either way and if it does, the effect is not significant. Only people who care are Palestinian justice advocates with too much time on their hand really.

Wouldn't they logically be playing down anti-semitism?

Also, is it "wrapped up" as in Khan is still leading? What caused BoJo to slip from favour?
I wager it's his nasty turn over the EU.

The grassroots as a whole is more sympathetic to Palestine, but we're not fighting the election on that issue. We just deliver leaflets, phone bank and ensure that we GOTV.

Sadiq Khan is acknowledging there's an anti-semitism issue in the party and condemning Ken. I'm there with him, no point creating a controversy that shouldn't exist and it would look really bad if he tried to defend Ken. Khan's view is consistent with his beliefs and he has a record as a more liberal Muslim along with a history of engagement with the Jewish community, so it isn't politically opportunistic but it seems like his general conviction.

Personally, I think there is an anti-semitic issue in the party. Too many are using the term 'anti-zionist' as a veil for antisemitism. A lot of pro-Palestinians have a completely black view of Israel, as if they're some monolithic entity that is universally evil thus justifying some really nasty views on Israel. Many like to couple what are already extreme views on the matter with antisemitic rhetoric, such as references to the 'zionist-controlled media' and what not.

What doesn't help are beliefs held among members such as the idea that the Israel-Palestinian Conflict can be compared to apartheid in South Africa, that University campuses should support BDS campaigns (which creates an intimidating atmosphere for Israeli and Jewish students) and a failure to recognise that there are shades of grey in the entire matter (I'm more sympathetic to the Israeli peace movement than Hamas for instance). Most don't educate themselves on the issue beyond 'Palestine good, Israel bad'.

This really speaks words.

EDIT: It's wrapped up in the aspect that polling reveals Labour to be quite far ahead (last figure being banded about by staffers at Labour Party HQ had Labour polling at 60% once second preferences are counted). All that can really derail Labour is a massive bradley effect.

[Valaran]

You care.

About... the London mayoral election? Yes I do, given I live there. About anti-semitism? Yeah, I happen to care about that as well. I'm still not entirely sure of your point though.

[Imperializt Russia]

It's Frank.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/b ... f544e0be73

What's with all these politicians using their middle names instead of their first?

For Zac, I assumed it was branding, but looking over the rest of that list, maybe it's some kind of parliamentary tradition for some reason.

[Communist EU]

Wouldn't they logically be playing down anti-semitism?

Also, is it "wrapped up" as in Khan is still leading? What caused BoJo to slip from favour?
I wager it's his nasty turn over the EU.

The grassroots as a whole is more sympathetic to Palestine, but we're not fighting the election on that issue. We just deliver leaflets, phone bank and ensure that we GOTV.

Sadiq Khan is acknowledging there's an anti-semitism issue in the party and condemning Ken. I'm there with him, no point creating a controversy that shouldn't exist and it would look really bad if he tried to defend Ken. Khan's view is consistent with his beliefs and he has a record as a more liberal Muslim along with a history of engagement with the Jewish community, so it isn't politically opportunistic but it seems like his general conviction.

Personally, I think there is an anti-semitic issue in the party. Too many are using the term 'anti-zionist' as a veil for antisemitism. A lot of pro-Palestinians have a completely black view of Israel, as if they're some monolithic entity that is universally evil thus justifying some really nasty views on Israel. Many like to couple what are already extreme views on the matter with antisemitic rhetoric, such as references to the 'zionist-controlled media' and what not.

What doesn't help are beliefs held among members such as the idea that the Israel-Palestinian Conflict can be compared to apartheid in South Africa, that University campuses should support BDS campaigns (which creates an intimidating atmosphere for Israeli and Jewish students) and a failure to recognise that there are shades of grey in the entire matter (I'm more sympathetic to the Israeli peace movement than Hamas for instance). Most don't educate themselves on the issue beyond 'Palestine good, Israel bad'.

This really speaks words.

EDIT: It's wrapped up in the aspect that polling reveals Labour to be quite far ahead (last figure being banded about by staffers at Labour Party HQ had Labour polling at 60% once second preferences are counted). All that can really derail Labour is a massive bradley effect.

And this speaks volumes about Chalmers.
https://jewsforjeremy.org/2016/04/29/an ... our-party/

[Wolfmanne2]

The grassroots as a whole is more sympathetic to Palestine, but we're not fighting the election on that issue. We just deliver leaflets, phone bank and ensure that we GOTV.

Sadiq Khan is acknowledging there's an anti-semitism issue in the party and condemning Ken. I'm there with him, no point creating a controversy that shouldn't exist and it would look really bad if he tried to defend Ken. Khan's view is consistent with his beliefs and he has a record as a more liberal Muslim along with a history of engagement with the Jewish community, so it isn't politically opportunistic but it seems like his general conviction.

Personally, I think there is an anti-semitic issue in the party. Too many are using the term 'anti-zionist' as a veil for antisemitism. A lot of pro-Palestinians have a completely black view of Israel, as if they're some monolithic entity that is universally evil thus justifying some really nasty views on Israel. Many like to couple what are already extreme views on the matter with antisemitic rhetoric, such as references to the 'zionist-controlled media' and what not.

What doesn't help are beliefs held among members such as the idea that the Israel-Palestinian Conflict can be compared to apartheid in South Africa, that University campuses should support BDS campaigns (which creates an intimidating atmosphere for Israeli and Jewish students) and a failure to recognise that there are shades of grey in the entire matter (I'm more sympathetic to the Israeli peace movement than Hamas for instance). Most don't educate themselves on the issue beyond 'Palestine good, Israel bad'.

This really speaks words.

EDIT: It's wrapped up in the aspect that polling reveals Labour to be quite far ahead (last figure being banded about by staffers at Labour Party HQ had Labour polling at 60% once second preferences are counted). All that can really derail Labour is a massive bradley effect.

And this speaks volumes about Chalmers.
https://jewsforjeremy.org/2016/04/29/an ... our-party/

So he believes that Israel has a right-to-exist and appears to be on the Labour right? Where exactly am I meant to be offended?

[Communist EU]

And this speaks volumes about Chalmers.
https://jewsforjeremy.org/2016/04/29/an ... our-party/

So he believes that Israel has a right-to-exist and appears to be on the Labour right? Where exactly am I meant to be offended?

Slippery, disingenuous, political trickster.

[Wolfmanne2]

So he believes that Israel has a right-to-exist and appears to be on the Labour right? Where exactly am I meant to be offended?

Slippery, disingenuous, political trickster.

Shame the hard left didn't recruit him. He would have made great operator in the Nutty Union of Students.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-36184922

[Lamadia]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

The man in a bloody murderer, and a supporter of the P. IRA. Ought to be locked up, on all accounts.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

The man in a bloody murderer, and a supporter of the P. IRA. Ought to be locked up, on all accounts.

But, he was not in the IRA.

He was not, you know like.

[Valaran]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-36184922

The whole slip up just seems weird.

[MERIZoC]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

The man in a bloody murderer, and a supporter of the P. IRA. Ought to be locked up, on all accounts.

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[The Huskar Social Union]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-36184922

The whole slip up just seems weird.

Yeah its weird, when i first saw it, i thought it was a photoshop, then it was on the news so i then realised it was real.

Its also stupid, the man is an idiot sometimes. What did he expect to happen?

[MERIZoC]

Gerry Adams had a stupid moment again recently in his ah review? I guess of Django unchained on twitter.

He probably has those quite a lot actually.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-politics-36184922

The whole slip up just seems weird.

Pretty funny though, given how big he fucked up, how similar shit has happened in the past, and how he still doesn't understand what he did wrong.
"It was ironic"
lol

[Pachenstein]

The whole slip up just seems weird.

Pretty funny though, given how big he fucked up, how similar shit has happened in the past, and how he still doesn't understand what he did wrong.
"It was ironic"
lol

Didn't he admit he was pissed when he tweeted it?

[The Huskar Social Union]

The whole slip up just seems weird.

Pretty funny though, given how big he fucked up, how similar shit has happened in the past, and how he still doesn't understand what he did wrong.
"It was ironic"
lol

Waterford whisperer threw together this gem: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/05/03/all-these-fools-gonna-make-me-bust-my-nine-confirms-adams/

[Souseiseki]

there were some 10/10 stories in the past 2 days but i forgot them all

[The Huskar Social Union]

there were some 10/10 stories in the past 2 days but i forgot them all

*Thumbs up*

10/10 would read again stories?

[Valaran]

Yeah its weird, when i first saw it, i thought it was a photoshop, then it was on the news so i then realised it was real.

Its also stupid, the man is an idiot sometimes. What did he expect to happen?

lol, Since its twitter I did assume it was real, but still, I just don't get how he thought it would be ok. Then again, he does like to tweet similarly weird stuff.

It all comes across as a grandparent who hasn't realised that certain words shouldn't be used (plus the reference too), and has just discovered social media...

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Pretty funny though, given how big he fucked up, how similar shit has happened in the past, and how he still doesn't understand what he did wrong.
"It was ironic"
lol

hhaha I hadn't heard his 'defence'.

[Souseiseki]

Civil rights outlawed. LOL

teresa may plays NS?

[Valaran]

Civil rights outlawed. LOL

teresa may plays NS?

Let me guess her nation classification: Mother knows best state