The Jewish Situation

[Vistulange]

That said, Jochistan, I apologize for wording my post in a way which could easily be interpreted as calling you a regressive leftist, since you are clearly not one.

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

Even though moderation is going to say that this is way out of line, I completely agree. Crock - and his kind - are not to be compromised with, but instead ignored or repressed. Since we cannot do the latter, ignoring these types are ideal.

He had it coming.

[Genivaria]

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-mor ... argeted-16

OTOH, none of the presidential candidates want to ban Jews from entering the country.

Not that I haven't encountered some disturbingly antisemitic people, though...

The point is that none of them are in any positions of power that we know of.
I wager the myth of 'Judeo-Christian' whatever has been circulated so much around the religious right that they found an excuse to not hate the Jews like they used to.

[Genivaria]

Myself I don't see Jews as having more or less of a right to their own country then anyone else, but I still oppose Israel based on some of their continuing policies like settlement building.

[Kriga]

I am glad you like it! Where are you from, if I may ask?

Iran isn't a terrorist nation. We do support Hamas, but that's relatively it. Unfortunately, my country has been hijacked and peverted by Islamism and a corrupt clergy. I yearn for a day when secularism comes and people can vote in a country where religon is scorned and only used for private worship. When that day comes, I think many Iranians will rejoice.

I'd like Iran more if it was more secular.

So would I. We were once, in 1953.

Then the CIA Coup happened...

[Kriga]

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

Even though moderation is going to say that this is way out of line, I completely agree. Crock - and his kind - are not to be compromised with, but instead ignored or repressed. Since we cannot do the latter, ignoring these types are ideal.

He had it coming.

His kind being..?

[Yupun]

I think Israel should stop doing theft but I got nothing against Jewish people!

[Genivaria]

I'd like Iran more if it was more secular.

So would I. We were once, in 1953.

Then the CIA Coup happened...

Yeah we were kind of stupid back then...

[Menassa]

I think Israel should stop doing theft but I got nothing against Jewish people!

Well we don't have anything against you either Billy.

[Kriga]

So would I. We were once, in 1953.

Then the CIA Coup happened...

Yeah we were kind of stupid back then...

Not stupid. Britain and the US just wanted our oil. When Mohammed Mossadegh overthrew the Shah, he nationalised the oil and gave Persians autonomy over their own natural resource.

Britain and the US didn't like that, so they brought the Shah back in power, hired thugs to beat his supporters up, and overthrew the elected party in favour of some idiot monarch who kissed their feet. Certainly helped them suck Iran out dry until the Revolution came about....which eventually became an Islamic Revolution thanks to those crafty Islamist traitors.

And this isn't the first time the West has stabbed Iran in the back before. We were invaded ten years before the coup too. Just because we declared neutrality during WW2.

[Crockerland]

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

Even though moderation is going to say that this is way out of line, I completely agree. Crock - and his kind - are not to be compromised with, but instead ignored or repressed. Since we cannot do the latter, ignoring these types are ideal.

He had it coming.

Yeah, Crockerland had the nerve to clarify his position and apologize for wording something poorly, he deserved to be harassed and flamed. After all he is a ultranationalist [lie] racist [lie] white [lie] right-winger [lie] and he called Jochistan a regressive leftist [lie]. He also hates Turkey just because it invaded Cyprus [lie] and supports Apartheid [lie].

[Central Kadigan]

how do you guys feel about us, and what do you think of supporting Israel as a nation?

There are two VERY different questions.

It is entirely possible to fully support, love, and embrace people of the Jewish faith, and to appreciate the historical struggles that they have gone through as a people. While at the same time openly questioning - if not vocally decrying - some of the tactics used by the modern State of Israel, especially in regards to its use of force against the Palestinian people and its presence in the West Bank and in Gaza.

[Genivaria]

Yeah we were kind of stupid back then...

Not stupid. Britain and the US just wanted our oil. When Mohammed Mossadegh overthrew the Shah, he nationalised the oil and gave Persians autonomy over their own natural resource.

Britain and the US didn't like that, so they brought the Shah back in power, hired thugs to beat his supporters up, and overthrew the elected party in favour of some idiot monarch who kissed their feet. Certainly helped them suck Iran out dry until the Revolution came about....which eventually became an Islamic Revolution thanks to those crafty Islamist traitors.

And this isn't the first time the West has stabbed Iran in the back before. We were invaded ten years before the coup too. Just because we declared neutrality during WW2.

To my understanding it was more the UK wanted your oil so they went to the US who didn't care at first until the UK started claiming that Iran was becoming communist.
And the UK and the US don't represent 'the West' whatever that is.

[Napkiraly]

I'm a Muslim, obviously, and I'm living in a Muslim-majority country, Indonesia.
Compared to the other Muslim country, particularly the Middle-Eastern/South Asian Muslim countries, Indonesia is fairly a moderate Muslim nation, with a secular government, but its not exactly the religion get separated from the state/government. Its our identity.
Even within its moderate "Muslim" population, there are still a huge hatred for Jews or anything Jewish there, particularly regarding the status of that nation in the Middle East.
Generally, I have no feelings toward Jew. I just look it like the other Abrahamic religions and as a predecessor of my religion, Islam. I supports the two state solution, where the Palestinian and Israelites can have their own fair share of Palestine. I hate the state of Israel because of their actions towards the Palestinians during 1948, or when they attacked the Gaza Strip that caused too many innocent victims.
Regarding the Jewish people, generally, I have no prejudice nor feelings towards them, and I choose to judge people from their action, not from their identity, regardless if they are Muslims, Christians, Jews or whatever.

Tbf do you equally hate the Middle Eastern and North African states for what they did after 1948 to their Jewish populations?

[Pope Joan]

I think that despising the strategies and actions of Israel in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza and Palestine does not make me anti Semitic. The wise Abraham Joshua Heschel was a religious Zionist, but this was ion contrast to his lack of support for the idea of secular or political Zionism. It has not worked out well, in practice.

We know Jews within Israel who oppose the Likud and its ways; does this make them self-haters? Enough of this nonsense. Anyone who desires to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with his LORD, should oppose Tel Aviv.

[Islamic Republic of Aceh]

I'm a Muslim, obviously, and I'm living in a Muslim-majority country, Indonesia.
Compared to the other Muslim country, particularly the Middle-Eastern/South Asian Muslim countries, Indonesia is fairly a moderate Muslim nation, with a secular government, but its not exactly the religion get separated from the state/government. Its our identity.
Even within its moderate "Muslim" population, there are still a huge hatred for Jews or anything Jewish there, particularly regarding the status of that nation in the Middle East.
Generally, I have no feelings toward Jew. I just look it like the other Abrahamic religions and as a predecessor of my religion, Islam. I supports the two state solution, where the Palestinian and Israelites can have their own fair share of Palestine. I hate the state of Israel because of their actions towards the Palestinians during 1948, or when they attacked the Gaza Strip that caused too many innocent victims.
Regarding the Jewish people, generally, I have no prejudice nor feelings towards them, and I choose to judge people from their action, not from their identity, regardless if they are Muslims, Christians, Jews or whatever.

Tbf do you equally hate the Middle Eastern and North African states for what they did after 1948 to their Jewish populations?

To be honest, I've not many knowledge about that, but giving the situation in the Middle East and North Africa at the time, the tensions are indeed high, and I see that as the Arabic countries way to avenge their losses at the war, and also to avenge Israel, as a nation, for expulsed the Palestinians from their lands (I mean there the lands the Palestinian got as a result of the UN's treaty), as the Palestinians have some similarities with them: a) They are mostly Muslims, and b) They also Arabs.
I think their way, to expulse their own native Jews, is very bad and regretted, but I understand their motives to do that.

[Napkiraly]

And yet you don't understand the Israeli position nor treat it as lightly. Hm.

[Islamic Republic of Aceh]

And yet you don't understand the Israeli position nor treat it as lightly. Hm.

Maybe. As an Indonesian, a member of a nation that never, or rarely in history, to suffer through events such holocaust, maybe I'll never understand the exact position or feeling as an Israeli. I just said the one you quoted above, to express my true thought toward the Israel's policies. I know that not every Israelis are bad, the same as not all Muslims are good, but its just an opinion toward the country.

[Napkiraly]

And yet you don't understand the Israeli position nor treat it as lightly. Hm.

Maybe. As an Indonesian, a member of a nation that never, or rarely in history, to suffer through events such holocaust, maybe I'll never understand the exact position or feeling as an Israeli. I just said the one you quoted above, to express my true thought toward the Israel's policies. I know that not every Israelis are bad, the same as not all Muslims are good, but its just an opinion toward the country.

Except you still show a difference towards the same act more or less. Israel uses it own justifications for the expulsions, as do the Arab states. Both are incredibly shitty and hurt up to two million people combined. Why hate Israel and not Iraq as well?

[Tamsien]

Well Malaysia is not on speaking terms with the Jewish State of Israel.

I see no issue with the existence of Israel, personally. Those that want it wiped off the map are reprehensible people in their own right, but the ultranat/Israeli far right that continues to encroach on the dignity of the Palestinian people through acts of brutality and violence are just as reprehensible.

But I also do not regard the region in a positive light.

[Great Feng]

I say burn the Jews, Christians, and Muslims, also Atheists at the stake.
#Pastafarianism4life

[Menassa]

Well Malaysia is not on speaking terms with the Jewish State of Israel.

I see no issue with the existence of Israel, personally. Those that want it wiped off the map are reprehensible people in their own right, but the ultranat/Israeli far right that continues to encroach on the dignity of the Palestinian people through acts of brutality and violence are just as reprehensible.

But I also do not regard the region in a positive light.

Israel =/= the Jews

[Tamsien]

Well Malaysia is not on speaking terms with the Jewish State of Israel.

I see no issue with the existence of Israel, personally. Those that want it wiped off the map are reprehensible people in their own right, but the ultranat/Israeli far right that continues to encroach on the dignity of the Palestinian people through acts of brutality and violence are just as reprehensible.

But I also do not regard the region in a positive light.

Israel =/= the Jews

I saw the mention of Israel and latched onto that. Whoops.

Jewish people are chill. Individual cases and context is needed.