The Jewish Situation

[Jochistan]

You won't have a problem posting a quote from me calling a third position traditionalist a regressive leftist then, at least I assume you won't since you've screamed bloody murder for the last few pages of multiple threads that I did so

You're applying Protestant logic to the Qur'an.

That never works. See the Wahhabi movement.

Yeah, it's always all the fault of the ebul Wahhabies, that seems to be a theme with regressive left islamic apologists.

You're full of it. You're only going back on it now and trying to twist your words to get you out of criticisms way and somehow make yourself not look cancerous because I didn't sit there and take it. You do this for everyone that doesn't share your views. This thread is no acception apparently

[Iranian Israel]

Jews are not discriminated against in the United States, although antisemitism does exist, albeit among a very small demographic. I've been called a kike by a bunch of drunk teenagers once, which was actually pretty funny since they unwittingly assumed I was a Jew on the basis of my curly hair and hooked nose.

As for Israel, I don't oppose its right to exist, but I do oppose its leadership and their actions.

[Jochistan]

Quit playing innocent. Tying my position to that of a regressive leftists is definately reason to act like you made the accusation which you did and continue to do.

And continue to do for anyone who even lifts a finger against your views on Islam.

If you don't want indignation, don't call people regressive leftists if they clearly don't have those views.

You aren't a reggressive leftist.

But one thing i know for sure is that you are definately socially and morally conservative, and seem to get quite emotional when Islam gets criticsed. Not a bad thing, but I am not surprised if someone would call you regressive for that.

Emotion in politics is a literal blight. It forsakes reason and logic, as well as facts. It is a natural human emotion, but when it comes to deciding how to look after a country, it must be quashed for pragmatism to take hold.

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

Moderate Muslims shold flee the Salafi-Populist-Ultranat battle ground and go to Bosnia and Herzegovina and Albania. Which should entrench themselves, maybe even to the point of fascism if necessary, against the Populists and Cetnik-Zionist-Putin Gimps, Cucks, Hicks and Thugs.

[Kriga]

You aren't a reggressive leftist.

But one thing i know for sure is that you are definately socially and morally conservative, and seem to get quite emotional when Islam gets criticsed. Not a bad thing, but I am not surprised if someone would call you regressive for that.

Emotion in politics is a literal blight. It forsakes reason and logic, as well as facts. It is a natural human emotion, but when it comes to deciding how to look after a country, it must be quashed for pragmatism to take hold.

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

People call my country a terrorist state. I don't get emotional. I challenge them without losing my cool, otherwise it becomes a circle jerk.

Just prove him wrong by being reasonable, not sentimental.

[Iranian Israel]

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

People call my country a terrorist state. I don't get emotional. I challenge them without losing my cool, otherwise it becomes a circle jerk.

Just prove him wrong by being reasonable, not sentimental.

What's your country if I may ask?

[Jochistan]

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

People call my country a terrorist state. I don't get emotional. I challenge them without losing my cool, otherwise it becomes a circle jerk.

Just prove him wrong by being reasonable, not sentimental.

Already tried that.

[Crockerland]

You won't have a problem posting a quote from me calling a third position traditionalist a regressive leftist then, at least I assume you won't since you've screamed bloody murder for the last few pages of multiple threads that I did so

Yeah, it's always all the fault of the ebul Wahhabies, that seems to be a theme with regressive left islamic apologists.

You're full of it. You're only going back on it now and trying to twist your words to get you out of criticisms way and somehow make yourself not look cancerous because I didn't sit there and take it. You do this for everyone that doesn't share your views. This thread is no acception apparently

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

You aren't a reggressive leftist.

But one thing i know for sure is that you are definately socially and morally conservative, and seem to get quite emotional when Islam gets criticsed. Not a bad thing, but I am not surprised if someone would call you regressive for that.

Emotion in politics is a literal blight. It forsakes reason and logic, as well as facts. It is a natural human emotion, but when it comes to deciding how to look after a country, it must be quashed for pragmatism to take hold.

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

[Kriga]

People call my country a terrorist state. I don't get emotional. I challenge them without losing my cool, otherwise it becomes a circle jerk.

Just prove him wrong by being reasonable, not sentimental.

What's your country if I may ask?

The flag kind of hints it. iranian (Persian) and proud.

[Islamic Republic of Aceh]

I'm a Muslim, obviously, and I'm living in a Muslim-majority country, Indonesia.
Compared to the other Muslim country, particularly the Middle-Eastern/South Asian Muslim countries, Indonesia is fairly a moderate Muslim nation, with a secular government, but its not exactly the religion get separated from the state/government. Its our identity.
Even within its moderate "Muslim" population, there are still a huge hatred for Jews or anything Jewish there, particularly regarding the status of that nation in the Middle East.
Generally, I have no feelings toward Jew. I just look it like the other Abrahamic religions and as a predecessor of my religion, Islam. I supports the two state solution, where the Palestinian and Israelites can have their own fair share of Palestine. I hate the state of Israel because of their actions towards the Palestinians during 1948, or when they attacked the Gaza Strip that caused too many innocent victims.
Regarding the Jewish people, generally, I have no prejudice nor feelings towards them, and I choose to judge people from their action, not from their identity, regardless if they are Muslims, Christians, Jews or whatever.

[Jochistan]

You're full of it. You're only going back on it now and trying to twist your words to get you out of criticisms way and somehow make yourself not look cancerous because I didn't sit there and take it. You do this for everyone that doesn't share your views. This thread is no acception apparently

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

Nah. You very clearly implied I was a regressive leftist apologist and are just now going back on it.

[Jochistan]

You're full of it. You're only going back on it now and trying to twist your words to get you out of criticisms way and somehow make yourself not look cancerous because I didn't sit there and take it. You do this for everyone that doesn't share your views. This thread is no acception apparently

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

Says it's a Sin and that God has and will punish it.

The Transgression there is in reference to war. Which I'm sure you can twist to fit your clash of civilizations theory.

[Islamic Republic of Aceh]

You're full of it. You're only going back on it now and trying to twist your words to get you out of criticisms way and somehow make yourself not look cancerous because I didn't sit there and take it. You do this for everyone that doesn't share your views. This thread is no acception apparently

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

Excuse me for not taking it in the ass from other people who shit all over everything I stand for like a good little cuck.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

Please. This is not a forum for debates regarding Islam or Muslim. You can brought it to the Muslim/Islam forum, and I'm sure a lot of people there will answer that, not just Jochistan.

What's your country if I may ask?

The flag kind of hints it. iranian (Persian) and proud.

I like Iran. They have an amazing history and architecture/art. I think only Western nations in the US's side plus Israel, which call Iran is a terrorist state.

[Kriga]

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

Nah. You very clearly implied I was a regressive leftist apologist and are just now going back on it.

You two are not getting anywhere with mindless bickering. Come to a compromise for the sake of your fingers.

Islam does have a problem. It is too far up in the 6th century still and is host to a number of conservative followers. As of this date, there has been no secularist or innovative reform into the religon, and that is a problem.

However, just because a holy book has horrible verses, and flaws in it, doesn't mean we should dismiss it outright. Yes, arguably, religion is a dated concept, but we must co-exist somehow. Arguing with Jochistan isn't going to get anyone anywhere. He's too set in his ways. And frankly, i think it's because he's reading people shit talk his religion so much. of course it's going to trigger him. That's not the way we build cooperation.

[Kriga]

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

Please. This is not a forum for debates regarding Islam or Muslim. You can brought it to the Muslim/Islam forum, and I'm sure a lot of people there will answer that, not just Jochistan.

The flag kind of hints it. iranian (Persian) and proud.

I like Iran. They have an amazing history and architecture/art. I think only Western nations in the US's side plus Israel, which call Iran is a terrorist state.

I am glad you like it! Where are you from, if I may ask?

Iran isn't a terrorist nation. We do support Hamas, but that's relatively it. Unfortunately, my country has been hijacked and peverted by Islamism and a corrupt clergy. I yearn for a day when secularism comes and people can vote in a country where religon is scorned and only used for private worship. When that day comes, I think many Iranians will rejoice.

[Crockerland]

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

Nah. You very clearly implied I was a regressive leftist apologist and are just now going back on it.

I can see why you could wrongly think that there was an implication that you were a regressive leftist. I specified multiple times in the original thread and this one that all I was saying was that was a common theme from the regressive left and not that you were a regressive leftist, and yet you followed me here to harass me and continued in your bizarre cries of foul regardless.

You deny the Wahhabis are evil,

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

a massive threat and make up most of the problems in the Muslim world. And anyone who pins the blame on them is a regressive leftist.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

Lol, good to know whose side you're really on.

Lmao what? Don't go full conspiracy loon on me, Jochistan...

And if you're really going to call me a leftist

Say that one thing you say is a common theme among the regressive left, you mean?

because I..think The all time largest and most influential form of Islamic Fundamentalism is a massive threat... (still scratching my head over that one)

Yeah, it's a massive threat, just like all of Islam.

I might as well call you a Maoist...

You mean say that something I say sounds like a common theme of Maoist thought?

Y'know, while we're making retarded accusations far from what we know to be each others beleifs here.

Less making assumptions about your "beleifs" and more pointing out that you're just parroting the typical bs by the regressive left islamic apologists to pin it all on one sect of Islam.

[Yaramaqui]

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

Please. This is not a forum for debates regarding Islam or Muslim. You can brought it to the Muslim/Islam forum, and I'm sure a lot of people there will answer that, not just Jochistan.

The flag kind of hints it. iranian (Persian) and proud.

I like Iran. They have an amazing history and architecture/art. I think only Western nations in the US's side plus Israel, which call Iran is a terrorist state.

Nah. You very clearly implied I was a regressive leftist apologist and are just now going back on it.

I can see why you could wrongly think that there was an implication that you were a regressive leftist. I specified multiple times in the original thread and this one that all I was saying was that was a common theme from the regressive left and not that you were a regressive leftist, and yet you followed me here to harass me and continued in your bizarre cries of foul regardless.

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

Lmao what? Don't go full conspiracy loon on me, Jochistan...

Say that one thing you say is a common theme among the regressive left, you mean?

Yeah, it's a massive threat, just like all of Islam.

You mean say that something I say sounds like a common theme of Maoist thought?

Less making assumptions about your "beleifs" and more pointing out that you're just parroting the typical bs by the regressive left islamic apologists to pin it all on one sect of Islam.

I also agree with Aceh, This is not the thread for these discussions, I recommend the Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread if you really want to talk about Islam. But this is not the place for it.

[Crockerland]

Nah. You very clearly implied I was a regressive leftist apologist and are just now going back on it.

I can see why you could wrongly think that there was an implication that you were a regressive leftist. I specified multiple times in the original thread and this one that all I was saying was that was a common theme from the regressive left and not that you were a regressive leftist, and yet you followed me here to harass me and continued in your bizarre cries of foul regardless.

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

Lmao what? Don't go full conspiracy loon on me, Jochistan...

Say that one thing you say is a common theme among the regressive left, you mean?

Yeah, it's a massive threat, just like all of Islam.

You mean say that something I say sounds like a common theme of Maoist thought?

Less making assumptions about your "beleifs" and more pointing out that you're just parroting the typical bs by the regressive left islamic apologists to pin it all on one sect of Islam.

That said, Jochistan, I apologize for wording my post in a way which could easily be interpreted as calling you a regressive leftist, since you are clearly not one.

[Menassa]

Jews are not discriminated against in the United States, although antisemitism does exist, albeit among a very small demographic. I've been called a kike by a bunch of drunk teenagers once, which was actually pretty funny since they unwittingly assumed I was a Jew on the basis of my curly hair and hooked nose.

As for Israel, I don't oppose its right to exist, but I do oppose its leadership and their actions.

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-mor ... argeted-16

[Jochistan]

I can see why you could wrongly think that there was an implication that you were a regressive leftist. I specified multiple times in the original thread and this one that all I was saying was that was a common theme from the regressive left and not that you were a regressive leftist, and yet you followed me here to harass me and continued in your bizarre cries of foul regardless.

That said, Jochistan, I apologize for wording my post in a way which could easily be interpreted as calling you a regressive leftist, since you are clearly not one.

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

[Grande Republic of Arcadia]

That said, Jochistan, I apologize for wording my post in a way which could easily be interpreted as calling you a regressive leftist, since you are clearly not one.

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

thats a little much bro

[Kriga]

That said, Jochistan, I apologize for wording my post in a way which could easily be interpreted as calling you a regressive leftist, since you are clearly not one.

I still don't forgive your bitch ass.

You and every other populist and Ultranat on this site are all the same. Edgy teenage autistics with their heads full of shit and their ass full of their fathers dicks.
When you're done sucking off Kauthar you should consider how to make your point known without accussing literally everyone who disagrees with your retarded views of having views they don't. Or even implying that shit.

Fuck you.

In all fairness, being an Islamist conservative isn't any better. Youve completely lost the argument by just insulting him. He apologized!

[Virtannis]

Now everyone can see that your claims are fraudulent.

You'll have to excuse me for the same, after all I stand up to Islam's teachings such as anyone who practices homosexuality is transgressing (Quran 7:80-84) and those that transgress should be utterly destroyed (Quran 17:16).

Please. This is not a forum for debates regarding Islam or Muslim. You can brought it to the Muslim/Islam forum, and I'm sure a lot of people there will answer that, not just Jochistan.

The flag kind of hints it. iranian (Persian) and proud.

I like Iran. They have an amazing history and architecture/art. I think only Western nations in the US's side plus Israel, which call Iran is a terrorist state.

I have a lot of respect towards Persian history and heritage and I even have a distant Persian ancestry, but you can't deny that the government of Iran is funding organizations (Like Hezbollah, and until very recently Hamas, but after Hamas showed support for the Sunni Islamist faction of the Syrian opposition they give funds to smaller, arguably even more extreme terrorist organizations in Gaza that shoot rockets even when there's a cease-fire, trying to escalate things themselves) who use terrorist violent methods in order to achieve their goals (Terrorism - targeting civilians), so while I wouldn't call Iran's government (Again, I separate the rulers from the people) a "terrorist regime" but they are most definitely are a state that is terrorist-sponsoring, something which is not that well known is that although Netanyahu mostly focuses on his rhetoric about that he thinks that Iran might use a nuclear weapon (Something which is, to be honest, beyond silly, and in fact he had a big fight about it with the Head of Mossad, Meir Dagan who highly opposed Netanyahu's will to attack the nuclear facilities) - behind the scenes the real reason was that the deal doesn't address the terror-sponsoring and he expected the US to get a deal which would prevent Iran from sponsoring internationally recognized terrorist organizations, as the deal as it is lifts the sanctions without doing so bring more money in and it would have been fine if some of it was used in that manner.

[USS Monitor]

Please. This is not a forum for debates regarding Islam or Muslim. You can brought it to the Muslim/Islam forum, and I'm sure a lot of people there will answer that, not just Jochistan.

I like Iran. They have an amazing history and architecture/art. I think only Western nations in the US's side plus Israel, which call Iran is a terrorist state.

I am glad you like it! Where are you from, if I may ask?

Iran isn't a terrorist nation. We do support Hamas, but that's relatively it. Unfortunately, my country has been hijacked and peverted by Islamism and a corrupt clergy. I yearn for a day when secularism comes and people can vote in a country where religon is scorned and only used for private worship. When that day comes, I think many Iranians will rejoice.

I'd like Iran more if it was more secular.

[Spiffier]

I am glad you like it! Where are you from, if I may ask?

Iran isn't a terrorist nation. We do support Hamas, but that's relatively it. Unfortunately, my country has been hijacked and peverted by Islamism and a corrupt clergy. I yearn for a day when secularism comes and people can vote in a country where religon is scorned and only used for private worship. When that day comes, I think many Iranians will rejoice.

I'd like Iran more if it was more secular.

Why should they be, exactly? They staged a popular revolution overthrowing the secular government to institute a religious one.

[USS Monitor]

Jews are not discriminated against in the United States, although antisemitism does exist, albeit among a very small demographic. I've been called a kike by a bunch of drunk teenagers once, which was actually pretty funny since they unwittingly assumed I was a Jew on the basis of my curly hair and hooked nose.

As for Israel, I don't oppose its right to exist, but I do oppose its leadership and their actions.

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-mor ... argeted-16

OTOH, none of the presidential candidates want to ban Jews from entering the country.

Not that I haven't encountered some disturbingly antisemitic people, though...