Muslim prayer hall set on fire in Corsica

[Kriga]

When they fight you

And in the verse after you said ""Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [u]and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah" says "But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors".

Which never works in practice...ever

[El-Amin Caliphate]

And in the verse after you said ""Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah [u]and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah" says "But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors".

Which never works in practice...ever

Actually it did in the past. It can work again.

[Prolix Debate]

You would expect something like this, when you pit the overflow of a particular set of beliefs and cultures into a region with another particular set of beliefs and cultures.

[Jochistan]

You're applying Protestant logic to the Qur'an.

That never works. See the Wahhabi movement.

Yeah, it's always all the fault of the ebul Wahhabies, that seems to be a theme with regressive left islamic apologists.

You deny the Wahhabis are evil, a massive threat and make up most of the problems in the Muslim world. And anyone who pins the blame on them is a regressive leftist.
Lol, good to know whose side you're really on.

And if you're really going to call me a leftist because I...Uh...think The all time largest and most influential form of Islamic Fundamentalism is a massive threat.(still scratching my head over that)

I might as well call you a Maoist...Y'know, while we're making retarded accusations far from what we know to be each others beleifs here.

[Crockerland]

Yeah, it's always all the fault of the ebul Wahhabies, that seems to be a theme with regressive left islamic apologists.

You deny the Wahhabis are evil,

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

a massive threat and make up most of the problems in the Muslim world. And anyone who pins the blame on them is a regressive leftist.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

Lol, good to know whose side you're really on.

Lmao what? Don't go full conspiracy loon on me, Jochistan...

And if you're really going to call me a leftist

Say that one thing you say is a common theme among the regressive left, you mean?

because I..think The all time largest and most influential form of Islamic Fundamentalism is a massive threat... (still scratching my head over that one)

Yeah, it's a massive threat, just like all of Islam.

I might as well call you a Maoist...

You mean say that something I say sounds like a common theme of Maoist thought?

Y'know, while we're making retarded accusations far from what we know to be each others beleifs here.

Less making assumptions about your "beleifs" and more pointing out that you're just parroting the typical bs by the regressive left islamic apologists to pin it all on one sect of Islam.

[Jochistan]

You deny the Wahhabis are evil,

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

a massive threat and make up most of the problems in the Muslim world. And anyone who pins the blame on them is a regressive leftist.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

Lol, good to know whose side you're really on.

Lmao what? Don't go full conspiracy loon on me, Jochistan...

And if you're really going to call me a leftist

Say that one thing you say is a common theme among the regressive left, you mean?

because I..think The all time largest and most influential form of Islamic Fundamentalism is a massive threat... (still scratching my head over that one)

Yeah, it's a massive threat, just like all of Islam.

I might as well call you a Maoist...

You mean say that something I say sounds like a common theme of Maoist thought?

Y'know, while we're making retarded accusations far from what we know to be each others beleifs here.

Less making assumptions about your "beleifs" and more pointing out that you're just parroting the typical bs by the regressive left islamic apologists to pin it all on one sect of Islam.

Wahhabism is a sect. Uh huh.

It's pretty much a very accurate catchall term for modern Fundamentalists. As they can all be traced back to the teachings of Wahhab and earlier Ibn Taymiyya.

A regressive leftist would say they're a tiny minority. Which is obviously not what I'm saying.

Bur go on with your notions that I'm literally Tumblr tier leftist regressive because, like them, I have opinions.

Doesn't matter that those opinions are nothing like theirs, but it's an easy way to discredit someone regardless of their actual beleifs on...anything

I have a very hard time seeing a regressive leftist supporting or being influenced by Integral Traditionalism, Conservative Nationalism and Modernist Islamism. kek.

[Jochistan]

I think literally just defending Islam is just considered a regressive leftist thing to you.

You have to realize that there are many different kinds of people who find issue with your views. Not just leftists. That's a certain kind of paranoia your breed has. Literally everyone who disagrees with you on the subject is considered a regressive or a leftist bleeding heart liberal marxist postmodernist SJW by you. No matter how conservative they are.

I could be a literal Nazi and defend Islam. And you people would still consider me a regressive leftist. It's absolutely retarded. There's no way to win. Every time an arguement is made it's always shout down as a regressive leftist "apologist" response as if that somehow gives you godlike powers to automatically render an arguent completely invalid by some childish accusation.

[Jochistan]

You deny the Wahhabis are evil,

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

a massive threat and make up most of the problems in the Muslim world. And anyone who pins the blame on them is a regressive leftist.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

It's also not unusual for SJWs to complain about colonial mistreatment of minorities. Lol.

"America not giving the American Jews their own country is neo-Holocaust"
Seriously what the fuck makes you think it's remotely acceptable to compare the actual suffering of south african blacks to the Palestinians not being able to violently secede from Israel?

Has a very "triggered" tone to it too. "

what the fuck makes you think its remotely acceptable to compare the actual suffering of [minority]" sounds very much like a...well...you know....

In Contemporary times, that kind of is true. Khomeinists and Qutbists are insignificant compared to them.

[Traditionalism]

If a Muslim defends Islam it's not leftist. If a Western Atheist defends Islam it's Leftist.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

If a Muslim defends Islam it's not leftist. If a Western Atheist defends Islam it's Leftist.

Defending a religion doesn't guarantee a political party. You're just defending your religion. In fact, defending almost anything non-political doesn't put you in a political stance.

[Crockerland]

I don't usually go about proclaiming my thoughts on what groups of Muslims are evil, since the mods don't like that.

Not necessarily, anyone who pins all the blame of the various crimes of Islam on Wahhabism alone is just objectively wrong. It's not unusual for the regressive left to claim that all the crimes of Islam are due to wahhabis.

It's also not unusual for SJWs to complain about colonial mistreatment of minorities. Lol.

"America not giving the American Jews their own country is neo-Holocaust"
Seriously what the fuck makes you think it's remotely acceptable to compare the actual suffering of south african blacks to the Palestinians not being able to violently secede from Israel?

Has a very "triggered" tone to it too. "

what the fuck makes you think its remotely acceptable to compare the actual suffering of [minority]" sounds very much like a...well...you know....

Blacks in South Africa aren't a fucking minority.

[Traditionalism]

If a Muslim defends Islam it's not leftist. If a Western Atheist defends Islam it's Leftist.

Defending a religion doesn't guarantee a political party. You're just defending your religion. In fact, defending almost anything non-political doesn't put you in a political stance.

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Defending a religion doesn't guarantee a political party. You're just defending your religion. In fact, defending almost anything non-political doesn't put you in a political stance.

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

I'm saying that just because you defend something, that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, conservative, etc. if it's not politics oriented.

[Traditionalism]

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

I'm saying that just because you defend something, that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, conservative, etc. if it's not politics oriented.

Yes, it does. If you defend a perspective that does not form your own Truth or Worldview, you're compromising the integrity of your own beliefs. Leftist.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I'm saying that just because you defend something, that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, conservative, etc. if it's not politics oriented.

Yes, it does. If you defend a perspective that does not form your own Truth or Worldview, you're compromising the integrity of your own beliefs. Leftist.

I support things that fit into my own view.

[First Order Moffinate]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E

A Muslim prayer hall was seriously damaged by fire overnight in the capital of the French island of Corsica, local authorities said, four months after a separate Muslim prayer hall there was ransacked. No one was injured in the fire in Ajaccio, which police are investigating as criminal after finding two separate sources of fire inside the hall.

So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.

How do we feel ? You got off easy. Next time it should be there heads cut off.

[Internationalist Bastard]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E



So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.

How do we feel ? You got off easy. Next time it should be there heads cut off.

Dude, just, why?

[Internationalist Bastard]

I'm saying that just because you defend something, that doesn't necessarily make you a liberal, conservative, etc. if it's not politics oriented.

Yes, it does. If you defend a perspective that does not form your own Truth or Worldview, you're compromising the integrity of your own beliefs. Leftist.

That's not exactly true. If you support peoples rights to different opinions and to voice those opinions, that's just supporting free speech

[Alvecia]

Defending a religion doesn't guarantee a political party. You're just defending your religion. In fact, defending almost anything non-political doesn't put you in a political stance.

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

You can defend something indirectly by attacking false claims.
For example, I don't believe at all in Islam, however if someone were to claim "all Muslims are murderers" I would refute that claim, in the process defending Islam and/or Muslims, despite my disbelief in the religion itself.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

You can defend something indirectly by attacking false claims.
For example, I don't believe at all in Islam, however if someone were to claim "all Muslims are murderers" I would refute that claim, in the process defending Islam and/or Muslims, despite my disbelief in the religion itself.

Right.

[Traditionalism]

Yes, it does. If you defend a perspective that does not form your own Truth or Worldview, you're compromising the integrity of your own beliefs. Leftist.

That's not exactly true. If you support peoples rights to different opinions and to voice those opinions, that's just supporting free speech

Free Speech is a liberal idea.

[Traditionalism]

Lol.

If you defend anything that you don't consider true, then you're not an actual believer.

You can defend something indirectly by attacking false claims.
For example, I don't believe at all in Islam, however if someone were to claim "all Muslims are murderers" I would refute that claim, in the process defending Islam and/or Muslims, despite my disbelief in the religion itself.

You're not defending the religion or the people. You're simply pointing out an inconsistency in their claims. They could say all cheese is yellow, and refute that pointing out mozarella or whatever, you're not defending cheese itself you're just defending the inconsistency with the claim because of some observations.

[Alvecia]

You can defend something indirectly by attacking false claims.
For example, I don't believe at all in Islam, however if someone were to claim "all Muslims are murderers" I would refute that claim, in the process defending Islam and/or Muslims, despite my disbelief in the religion itself.

You're not defending the religion or the people. You're simply pointing out an inconsistency in their claims.

And in doing so I am indirectly defending Islam and/or Muslims from false accusations and spurious claims.

They could say all cheese is yellow, and refute that pointing out mozarella or whatever, you're not defending cheese itself you're just defending the inconsistency with the claim because of some observations.

Actually I would be defending cheese. Specifically the non yellow ones.

[Traditionalism]

You're not defending the religion or the people. You're simply pointing out an inconsistency in their claims.

And in doing so I am indirectly defending Islam and/or Muslims from false accusations and spurious claims.

They could say all cheese is yellow, and refute that pointing out mozarella or whatever, you're not defending cheese itself you're just defending the inconsistency with the claim because of some observations.

Actually I would be defending cheese. Specifically the non yellow ones.

No you're not. I could say all black people don't commit crimes and still believe all of them are inferior. I'm not defending them, I'm just pointing out an inconsistency.

[Alvecia]

And in doing so I am indirectly defending Islam and/or Muslims from false accusations and spurious claims.

Actually I would be defending cheese. Specifically the non yellow ones.

No you're not. I could say all black people don't commit crimes and still believe all of them are inferior. I'm not defending them, I'm just pointing out an inconsistency.

And in pointing out said inconsistency you'd be defending the blacks that don't commit crimes from hasty generalizations.