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by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 5:36 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:31 am
Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 6:41 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 6:42 am

https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:45 am
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Traditionalism wrote:>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.
Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West
Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?
by Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 6:47 am
Traditionalism wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?
>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?
No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.

by Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:50 am

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by Gauthier » Tue May 03, 2016 7:00 am
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by Mefpan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:04 am

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 7:04 am
Traditionalism wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?
>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?
No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 7:05 am
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
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by Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:13 am
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

by Kriga » Tue May 03, 2016 7:21 am

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by Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:25 am
Kriga wrote:Traditionalism wrote:>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.
Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West
Oh please check your facts. i may as well say that Christianity has no place in Europe. After all, it did originate from israel/Palestine. It has no place in Europe. Oh wait, it does...
You know, after the Christians ensured that paganism was wiped out through mass conversions, burnings and deaths. Christianity truly is a great religion. Oh yeah, 10/10.
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:26 am

by Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:28 am
Mefpan wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?
So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.
Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.
Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.
As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.

by Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:31 am
Mefpan wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?
So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.
Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.
Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.
As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

by Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:32 am
Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.
by Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:33 am
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Mercy, kindness, helping the needy etc isn't hippie garbage, it's what your supposed to do (to an extent). I understand what your saying, but you probably should've kept that to yourself or among your family and friends (if they are like-minded). I don't believe Isa' (Jesus in Arabic) died on the cross for our sins, nor do I believe he's the son of Allah (SWT). I believe he was a prophet who died of natural causes, but that's just me and my religion. But yeah, I think that should've been kept better un-typed.

by Mefpan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:35 am
Wallenburg wrote:Mefpan wrote:So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.
Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.
Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.
As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.
There's only one problem with that. They didn't bury Jesus with him still on the cross. They took him down. Although now I have another image of someone trying to bury an entire windmill, which may be even funnier than the first.
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