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Postby Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:31 am

Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 6:41 am

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Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West

Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 6:42 am

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Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West

And you condone burning Muslims? So you would burn me?! :o
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Postby Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:45 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West

Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?

>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?

No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 6:47 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?

>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?

No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.

By that logic, Christianity is foreign everywhere except Israel-Palestine.
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Postby Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:50 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West

And you condone burning Muslims? So you would burn me?! :o

Of course not.
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Postby Traditionalism » Tue May 03, 2016 6:51 am

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Traditionalism wrote:>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?

No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.

By that logic, Christianity is foreign everywhere except Israel-Palestine.

The difference being Christianity is the Truth. So, it's not foreign anywhere.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 03, 2016 7:00 am

Traditionalism wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And you condone burning Muslims? So you would burn me?! :o

Of course not.


People don't lie as smoothly as they used to, thanks to Donald Trump:

Traditionalism wrote:
Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:03 am

Traditionalism wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:By that logic, Christianity is foreign everywhere except Israel-Palestine.

The difference being Christianity is the Truth. So, it's not foreign anywhere.

Christianity is as much "the Truth" as Patrick Stewart is James. T Kirk.
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Postby Mefpan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:04 am

Traditionalism wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:By that logic, Christianity is foreign everywhere except Israel-Palestine.

The difference being Christianity is the Truth. So, it's not foreign anywhere.

If they'd pinned Jesus to a windmill instead of a cross we might even be getting some use out of his post mortem grave spins caused by that kind of attitude to thy neighbors.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 7:04 am

Traditionalism wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East? Religion has no nation/region and can spread anywhere. Now, would you condone the burning of churches in the Middle East?

>Then you would condone the burning of churches in the Mid East?

No, considering Islam is foreign everywhere except Saudi Arabia.

So is Christianity and Judaism. Well, they are foreign in everywhere except Palestine.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Tue May 03, 2016 7:05 am

Mefpan wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:The difference being Christianity is the Truth. So, it's not foreign anywhere.

If they'd pinned Jesus to a windmill instead of a cross we might even be getting some use out of his post mortem grave spins caused by that kind of attitude to thy neighbors.

What do you mean?
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:06 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mefpan wrote:If they'd pinned Jesus to a windmill instead of a cross we might even be getting some use out of his post mortem grave spins caused by that kind of attitude to thy neighbors.

What do you mean?

Who cares? I'm just enjoying the image of Jesus twirling about on the sails of a windmill. :p
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Postby Gauthier » Tue May 03, 2016 7:12 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?

Who cares? I'm just enjoying the image of Jesus twirling about on the sails of a windmill. :p


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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:13 am

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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?

Who cares? I'm just enjoying the image of Jesus twirling about on the sails of a windmill. :p

A little sacrilegious...but ok.
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Postby Kriga » Tue May 03, 2016 7:21 am

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Jochistan wrote:But no matter what you think the text of a religion actually means. You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West


Oh please check your facts. i may as well say that Christianity has no place in Europe. After all, it did originate from israel/Palestine. It has no place in Europe. Oh wait, it does...

You know, after the Christians ensured that paganism was wiped out through mass conversions, burnings and deaths. Christianity truly is a great religion. Oh yeah, 10/10.

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Postby Mefpan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:24 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Mefpan wrote:If they'd pinned Jesus to a windmill instead of a cross we might even be getting some use out of his post mortem grave spins caused by that kind of attitude to thy neighbors.

What do you mean?

So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.

Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.

Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.

As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:25 am

Kriga wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:>You don't go around burning random Mosques and Muslims.

Well, why not? They don't belong in Europe or the West


Oh please check your facts. i may as well say that Christianity has no place in Europe. After all, it did originate from israel/Palestine. It has no place in Europe. Oh wait, it does...

You know, after the Christians ensured that paganism was wiped out through mass conversions, burnings and deaths. Christianity truly is a great religion. Oh yeah, 10/10.

Even though I am not Christian, I wouldn't say that about Christianity. Christianity's a great religion to be a part of because the big 3 as I call them: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in 1 God and the Day of Judgement. So those 3 religions and other religions are great, beautiful, etc. It's the adherents that aren't so great.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:26 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Who cares? I'm just enjoying the image of Jesus twirling about on the sails of a windmill. :p

A little sacrilegious...but ok.

Good thing I am not Christian. :)
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:28 am

Mefpan wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?

So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.

Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.

Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.

As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.

There's only one problem with that. They didn't bury Jesus with him still on the cross. They took him down. Although now I have another image of someone trying to bury an entire windmill, which may be even funnier than the first.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:31 am

Mefpan wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What do you mean?

So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.

Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.

Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.

As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.

Mercy, kindness, helping the needy etc isn't hippie garbage, it's what your supposed to do (to an extent). I understand what your saying, but you probably should've kept that to yourself or among your family and friends (if they are like-minded). I don't believe Isa' (Jesus in Arabic) died on the cross for our sins, nor do I believe he's the son of Allah (SWT). I believe he was a prophet who died of natural causes, but that's just me and my religion. But yeah, I think that should've been kept better un-typed.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue May 03, 2016 7:32 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:A little sacrilegious...but ok.

Good thing I am not Christian. :)

Same; I'm Muslim. But still though...
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Wallenburg » Tue May 03, 2016 7:33 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:Mercy, kindness, helping the needy etc isn't hippie garbage, it's what your supposed to do (to an extent). I understand what your saying, but you probably should've kept that to yourself or among your family and friends (if they are like-minded). I don't believe Isa' (Jesus in Arabic) died on the cross for our sins, nor do I believe he's the son of Allah (SWT). I believe he was a prophet who died of natural causes, but that's just me and my religion. But yeah, I think that should've been kept better un-typed.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
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Postby Mefpan » Tue May 03, 2016 7:35 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Mefpan wrote:So basically, there's this religious figure who, according to scripture, was all about mercy, kindness, helping the needy, tolerating your neighbor and all that stupid hippie garbage. Apparently, so important to the entire faith they decided to name the whole damn religion after him.

Fast forward a bunch of centuries, suddenly everyone's gone back to reading the obsolete parts of the prequel book and this whole fire and brimstone deal with killing heathens and shit is more interesting. But they kind of like the name "Christ", so they stick with it regardless, despite having done a full-on 180 on religious policy.

Then, combine this with the figure of speech that someone is "spinning in their grave" due to some ridiculous post-mortem corruption of their intentions, and of course the windmill, which produces either flour from grain or electricity depending on which age you live in.

As such, the conclusion is that given the current state of far too many Christians, Jesus's teachings would've found more use if they'd nailed the poor sod to a windmill instead of a regular cross. That way anyone who claims to be a Christian while behaving in decidedly un-Christian ways would at least be helping fellow human beings by causing the spontaneous production of food or power.

There's only one problem with that. They didn't bury Jesus with him still on the cross. They took him down. Although now I have another image of someone trying to bury an entire windmill, which may be even funnier than the first.

Given that whole trinity thing and Father being son being the holy spirit and all and the whole thing about omnipotence/omnipresence/omniscience, I can only assume they wrote that he was taken off the cross and subsequently ascended to heaven because saying that upon the very moment they struck the last nail in the cross proceeded to snap off with a horrifying crack and screw itself up into the skies until it faded from vision was just too trippy and unbelievable for anyone present.
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