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Postby Traditionalism » Mon May 02, 2016 9:03 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:The Worldview doesn't change.

Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism. Most right wingers still support capitalism, hell many want less red tape on setting up businesses and the like.

>Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism

No shit. Just like the Hitlergruss doesn't make one a Nazi. It's a conclusion of the worldview.

" Most right wingers still support capitalism"

They're the enemy.
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Postby Traditionalism » Mon May 02, 2016 9:04 am

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Napkiraly wrote:Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism. Most right wingers still support capitalism, hell many want less red tape on setting up businesses and the like.

More importantly, Fascism specifically endorses a one party state and political religion.

That's a Temporal circumstantial result. The party and totalitarianism are means to achieve the Organic State. They cannot exist indefinitely as they will become redundant once the next inculcated generation takes over.

"one party" This no longer exists. Fascism cannot enter via the political process, and Fascism is totally against democracy anyways and thus there is no need of a party or parties.
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Postby Kriga » Mon May 02, 2016 9:54 am

Traditionalism wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism. Most right wingers still support capitalism, hell many want less red tape on setting up businesses and the like.

>Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism

No shit. Just like the Hitlergruss doesn't make one a Nazi. It's a conclusion of the worldview.

" Most right wingers still support capitalism"

They're the enemy.


Hitler was pretty pro-businuess during the Nazi reign. Like...super Capitalist. he frequently made deals with corporations in Germany and received their support during his rise to power.

Despite his 'Socialist' principles, Hitler was very much aligned with the Junker class of Germany, and was pro-capitalist. Not saying that Capitalism is bad, but that Fascism does have strong ties with business.

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Postby Traditionalism » Mon May 02, 2016 9:58 am

Kriga wrote:
Traditionalism wrote:>Being against migrants from the Middle East isn't fascism

No shit. Just like the Hitlergruss doesn't make one a Nazi. It's a conclusion of the worldview.

" Most right wingers still support capitalism"

They're the enemy.


Hitler was pretty pro-businuess during the Nazi reign. Like...super Capitalist. he frequently made deals with corporations in Germany and received their support during his rise to power.

Despite his 'Socialist' principles, Hitler was very much aligned with the Junker class of Germany, and was pro-capitalist. Not saying that Capitalism is bad, but that Fascism does have strong ties with business.

Of course he was. Those were the circumstances of the time. This doesn't change the worldview.
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Postby Kriga » Mon May 02, 2016 10:10 am

Traditionalism wrote:
Kriga wrote:
Hitler was pretty pro-businuess during the Nazi reign. Like...super Capitalist. he frequently made deals with corporations in Germany and received their support during his rise to power.

Despite his 'Socialist' principles, Hitler was very much aligned with the Junker class of Germany, and was pro-capitalist. Not saying that Capitalism is bad, but that Fascism does have strong ties with business.

Of course he was. Those were the circumstances of the time. This doesn't change the worldview.


Your worldview, maybe. Hitler and Mussolini were the the champions of Fascism and they are what Fascism purports even now. So, you can't really hate Capitalism if you're a Fascist.

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Postby Arkadacia » Mon May 02, 2016 10:26 am

Vaticantopia wrote:Honestly doesn't matter. Europe's gone down the shitter anyway. Birth rates are absurdly low, so the new Muslim ¨refugees¨ will just outbreed them , eventually become a majority, install Sharia Law, and become the next Middle East.

You couldn't make that slope more slippery if you slathered it in lube.
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Postby Vaticantopia » Mon May 02, 2016 10:34 am

Arkadacia wrote:
Vaticantopia wrote:Honestly doesn't matter. Europe's gone down the shitter anyway. Birth rates are absurdly low, so the new Muslim ¨refugees¨ will just outbreed them , eventually become a majority, install Sharia Law, and become the next Middle East.

You couldn't make that slope more slippery if you slathered it in lube.

And Europe's already sliding down

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Postby Vaticantopia » Mon May 02, 2016 10:35 am

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Arkadacia wrote:You couldn't make that slope more slippery if you slathered it in lube.

And Europe's already sliding down

And we're going to need a strong ass rope to get them out

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Postby Arkadacia » Mon May 02, 2016 10:36 am

Vaticantopia wrote:
Arkadacia wrote:You couldn't make that slope more slippery if you slathered it in lube.

And Europe's already sliding down

Yeah, once I see ANY sign of Sharia law being instilled, maybe I'll be inclined to believe you. There's a crisis, I'm not denying that, but thinking that it's going to get to that level is absurd, even for an absolute worst case scenario.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon May 02, 2016 10:37 am

Arkadacia wrote:
Vaticantopia wrote:And Europe's already sliding down

Yeah, once I see ANY sign of Sharia law being instilled, maybe I'll be inclined to believe you. There's a crisis, I'm not denying that, but thinking that it's going to get to that level is absurd, even for an absolute worst case scenario.

Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon May 02, 2016 10:37 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Arkadacia wrote:Yeah, once I see ANY sign of Sharia law being instilled, maybe I'll be inclined to believe you. There's a crisis, I'm not denying that, but thinking that it's going to get to that level is absurd, even for an absolute worst case scenario.

Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.
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Postby Redsection » Mon May 02, 2016 10:40 am

It's expected , with the fear of terrorism , and fear of islam . fascism and nationalism are on the rise in Europe once again.
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 02, 2016 10:40 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Arkadacia wrote:Yeah, once I see ANY sign of Sharia law being instilled, maybe I'll be inclined to believe you. There's a crisis, I'm not denying that, but thinking that it's going to get to that level is absurd, even for an absolute worst case scenario.

Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 02, 2016 10:42 am

Napkiraly wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Haha yeah no fucking thanks.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon May 02, 2016 10:42 am

Napkiraly wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Read my post after that one.
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Postby Arkadacia » Mon May 02, 2016 10:43 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.

The problem is that the laws should observe everyone the same way, instead of using different laws for different people. At least that's how I view it. Once you start applying different laws to different people, you really do start to veer into uncomfortably exploitable territory.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon May 02, 2016 10:45 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.


How about muslims who leave Islam ?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon May 02, 2016 10:45 am

Arkadacia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.

The problem is that the laws should observe everyone the same way, instead of using different laws for different people. At least that's how I view it. Once you start applying different laws to different people, you really do start to veer into uncomfortably exploitable territory.

There'd be some confusion, but I don't think it'd be that bad.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon May 02, 2016 10:45 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.


How about muslims who leave Islam ?

Then they're outside Sharia.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon May 02, 2016 10:46 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
How about muslims who leave Islam ?

Then they're outside Sharia.


Sharia disagrees.
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Postby Kriga » Mon May 02, 2016 10:47 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.


Shariah has no place in Western society. It destroys the principle of secularism. Even restricting it to Muslims would be bad, because it would infringe upon the rights of Muslims who do want to enjoy Western liberty in contrast to islamic ones.

Shariah law has no place in the West or any modernised, liberal society. period.

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Postby Mysterios » Mon May 02, 2016 10:48 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:As long as it's only instituted on Muslims, it's ok.


How about muslims who leave Islam ?

That never happens though. Honor killings stop that from ever becoming a trend

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Postby Napkiraly » Mon May 02, 2016 10:48 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Read my post after that one.

Answer remains the same.

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Postby Traditionalism » Mon May 02, 2016 11:44 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Arkadacia wrote:Yeah, once I see ANY sign of Sharia law being instilled, maybe I'll be inclined to believe you. There's a crisis, I'm not denying that, but thinking that it's going to get to that level is absurd, even for an absolute worst case scenario.

Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

Muslims don't belong in Europe.

I hope you're ready for the day of Justice.

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon May 02, 2016 11:47 am

Traditionalism wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Even if Sharia came into Europe, it wouldn't be bad.

Muslims don't belong in Europe.

I hope you're ready for the day of Justice.

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