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Postby The Potomac Republic » Sun May 01, 2016 10:58 am

Outright violence is never an answer to any problem. The burning of the religious establishment is terrorism, plain and simple. The situation of Muslims in Europe is a complex, mutli-faceted issue that cannot be simply resolved by saying "accept all immigrants!" or "kick all foreigners out!". Fault lies on both sides in this issue for a variety of reasons, some stretching further back into history than others. The point is that while this is a deplorable action and everyone has the right to live in peace and personal freedom, we can not simply assign blame to one side or another. Each side is responsible for this, and must go forward to work together to have a more accepting viewpoint of the other side, which would in the end promote harmony and stop things like this for happening again.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun May 01, 2016 11:01 am

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Jochistan wrote:Sensible Muslims should emigrate before things get worse.


I agree.

The people in Corsica did nothing wrong, nobody died so it is okay. The fight to take back our homeland will involve many incidents like this and I 100% support the perpetrators.
EDIT: Before anyone reports me again, I said it's fine for stuff like this to happen if NOBODY DIES. I'm against it if people die.

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Postby Muinordgrad » Sun May 01, 2016 11:06 am

I hope that there is a massive outpouring of love and support for the Muslims affected by this. It saddens me that us Christians ruin our image with stupid stuff like this.
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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Sun May 01, 2016 11:32 am

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E

Reuters wrote:A Muslim prayer hall was seriously damaged by fire overnight in the capital of the French island of Corsica, local authorities said, four months after a separate Muslim prayer hall there was ransacked. No one was injured in the fire in Ajaccio, which police are investigating as criminal after finding two separate sources of fire inside the hall.


So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.


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Postby San Lumen » Sun May 01, 2016 11:33 am

Ashworth-Attwater wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E

Reuters wrote:A Muslim prayer hall was seriously damaged by fire overnight in the capital of the French island of Corsica, local authorities said, four months after a separate Muslim prayer hall there was ransacked. No one was injured in the fire in Ajaccio, which police are investigating as criminal after finding two separate sources of fire inside the hall.


So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.


No hate crime or attack on a house of worship is acceptable in any way!!!! There is absolutely no way to justify it! They shouldn't have to brace themselves for darker times. This isn't the middle ages and the President of France should condemn the attack. They shouldn't have to assimilate if they don't want to!
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Postby Gauthier » Sun May 01, 2016 11:36 am

Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E



So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.


I, for one, support anything that destroys buildings. I hate buildings. All buildings should be destroyed.

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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Sun May 01, 2016 11:38 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:
I, for one, support anything that destroys buildings. I hate buildings. All buildings should be destroyed.

These people are doing the Lord's Work.


How is it sleeping outside in a storm?


Jokes on you. I am the Storm.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 11:41 am

Muinordgrad wrote:I hope that there is a massive outpouring of love and support for the Muslims affected by this. It saddens me that us Christians ruin our image with stupid stuff like this.

I hope that as well. However, Christians like yourself had no hand in this, and condemn such behavior. Your image is clean. Those who kill and burn and steal because they hate people for being different are the ones ruining the Christian image.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun May 01, 2016 2:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ashworth-Attwater wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-corsica-violence-idUSKCN0XR09E



So, NSG, it seems there has been an attack on a Muslim prayer hall in Corsica. This is not the first time Islamophobic attacks have been carried out in France and in Corsica. Sadly, women in hijabs being harassed and mosques vandalized are nothing new in the land of post-structuralism and guillotined monarchs. But, most importantly, I want to know what are your thoughts on this. I, for one, am anxious to see European liberals rationalizing this as a natural reaction to the Charlie Hedbo and Paris attacks that happened last year. Does that, in your opinion, make these attacks on the Islamic community of France justifiable, NSG? Should they brace themselves for dark times to come? Are you happy that Muslims in Europe are being attacked? Is it their fault for not being assimilated into European Culture™? Comment below.


No hate crime or attack on a house of worship is acceptable in any way!!!! There is absolutely no way to justify it! They shouldn't have to brace themselves for darker times. This isn't the middle ages and the President of France should condemn the attack. They shouldn't have to assimilate if they don't want to!

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun May 01, 2016 2:17 pm

Netherlands Mualenia wrote:Karma strikes back.

What karma?
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Postby Gauthier » Sun May 01, 2016 2:18 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Netherlands Mualenia wrote:Karma strikes back.

What karma?


Because obviously some jihadis committing terrorism is the fault of all the other Muslims in the world and they clearly deserve what they get. *nod nod*
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Postby Ashworth-Attwater » Sun May 01, 2016 2:19 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Netherlands Mualenia wrote:Karma strikes back.

What karma?


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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun May 01, 2016 2:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What karma?


Because obviously some jihadis committing terrorism is the fault of all the other Muslims in the world and they clearly deserve what they get. *nod nod*

Ey, this ain't jihad ISIS and others are doing. This is terrorism.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun May 01, 2016 2:21 pm

Gauthier wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:What karma?


Because obviously some jihadis committing terrorism is the fault of all the other Muslims in the world and they clearly deserve what they get. *nod nod*

But I feel you nonetheless.
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Postby Jochistan » Sun May 01, 2016 2:22 pm

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Mefpan wrote:What the genuine fuck are you on about with this implication that people are going to cheer over this, or blame the victims?

Good god, I don't know what pisses me off more; the fact that such attacks happen or that you appear to believe I, or a significant portion of the forum would celebrate the misery of people who've most likely done nothing to deserve such a treatment.

Like, what the fuck. What the actual fuck.

Just thought I'd quote this from the first page.

And now people start celebrating it. Lol.
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Postby Kriga » Sun May 01, 2016 3:19 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
No hate crime or attack on a house of worship is acceptable in any way!!!! There is absolutely no way to justify it! They shouldn't have to brace themselves for darker times. This isn't the middle ages and the President of France should condemn the attack. They shouldn't have to assimilate if they don't want to!

Alhamdulillah! Thank you! :lol:


If they shouldn't have to assimilate, they have no place in that country. If they are not willing to adopt to the values, language and laws, they have no place at all and should go back to the country they feel comfortable in. otherwise, lack of respect for their host country's values will lead to lack of social cohesion and a breakdown of society.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun May 01, 2016 6:38 pm

Kriga wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Alhamdulillah! Thank you! :lol:


If they shouldn't have to assimilate, they have no place in that country. If they are not willing to adopt to the values, language and laws, they have no place at all and should go back to the country they feel comfortable in. otherwise, lack of respect for their host country's values will lead to lack of social cohesion and a breakdown of society.

They don't have to adopt values, just respect them. Though I do agree that they have to learn the language, same for the host country too. And of course they have to obey laws. That's not even a part of assimilation.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 6:39 pm

Kriga wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Alhamdulillah! Thank you! :lol:


If they shouldn't have to assimilate, they have no place in that country. If they are not willing to adopt to the values, language and laws, they have no place at all and should go back to the country they feel comfortable in. otherwise, lack of respect for their host country's values will lead to lack of social cohesion and a breakdown of society.

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Postby Anollasia » Sun May 01, 2016 7:19 pm

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Muinordgrad wrote:I hope that there is a massive outpouring of love and support for the Muslims affected by this. It saddens me that us Christians ruin our image with stupid stuff like this.

I hope that as well. However, Christians like yourself had no hand in this, and condemn such behavior. Your image is clean. Those who kill and burn and steal because they hate people for being different are the ones ruining the Christian image.


That's true, but many people hate Muslims just because of a few rotten apples. I guess Muinordgrad didn't want Christians to be generalized in the same way.

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Postby Korhal IVV » Sun May 01, 2016 7:29 pm

Damn Islamophobes, when do you ever learn not to make stereotypes?

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Postby Jochistan » Sun May 01, 2016 7:42 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:Damn Islamophobes, when do you ever learn not to make stereotypes?

"Those who kill with the sword will die by the sword."

The sword is the key to both Heaven and Hell as Muhammad himself said.

It's the fundamanetalist and extreme nationalist zealots that need to have the "sword" brought to them all.
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Postby Mefpan » Sun May 01, 2016 8:58 pm

Mefpan wrote:What the genuine fuck are you on about with this implication that people are going to cheer over this, or blame the victims?

Good god, I don't know what pisses me off more; the fact that such attacks happen or that you appear to believe I, or a significant portion of the forum would celebrate the misery of people who've most likely done nothing to deserve such a treatment.

Like, what the fuck. What the actual fuck.

Look at me, I believed that people could've behaved decently when I wrote this.

Clearly, I should not be writing posts when suffering from sleep deprivation. It makes me idealistic and kind salty. I'll be off, slapping myself with a wet trout for making that rookie mistake.
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Traditionalism wrote:Hail Victory!

Thought you didn't mind Muslims.
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Postby Kriga » Mon May 02, 2016 3:54 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Kriga wrote:
If they shouldn't have to assimilate, they have no place in that country. If they are not willing to adopt to the values, language and laws, they have no place at all and should go back to the country they feel comfortable in. otherwise, lack of respect for their host country's values will lead to lack of social cohesion and a breakdown of society.

They don't have to adopt values, just respect them. Though I do agree that they have to learn the language, same for the host country too. And of course they have to obey laws. That's not even a part of assimilation.


Not saying we should hold a gun to their head and force them to accept. But, assimilation must occur sometimes. If these refugees intend on staying in an European country (be it France, Germany, UK), then they could at least learn our language and respect our laws and customs. And when i mean 'custom,' i don't mean forsaking their identity outright. In a liberal Democracy, we should let them worship the God they want and practice their original customs if they so wish. It is their right and no one is disputing that.

But, when i mean 'assimilation,' i mean they must learn the language and respect our laws and traditions. If they defy that, why should they stay?

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