Muslim prayer hall set on fire in Corsica

[Mefpan]

Jochistan, do you genuinely think that people with the will to set a prayer hall on fire can distinguish between rational Sunni Muslims and Salafis?

No. The attacks are random. But they weirdly enough never seem to happen to fundamentalists.

With how the European far right and Salafi extremists avoid throwing punches at each other you'd think they're afraid of going up against someone who's liable to retaliate against them if they did.

But it's probably both sides independently deciding that stirring up hatred and polarizing society is more in their interest, because they're sodding wankers.

[Vistulange]

I find all ideologies to be rather stupid.

Ah, a cynic, I can respect that.

No, a realist. Ideologies tell you that something is right or wrong based on dogmatic principles. Me, if higher taxes will make my people live better in the long run, it will be higher taxes. Vice versa, if taxes need to be cut, they should be cut - so on and so forth.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

Ah, a cynic, I can respect that.

No, a realist. Ideologies tell you that something is right or wrong based on dogmatic principles. Me, if higher taxes will make my people live better in the long run, it will be higher taxes. Vice versa, if taxes need to be cut, they should be cut - so on and so forth.

remember guise it's a simple as thatt

[Jochistan]

Western Europe isn't safe for Muslims.

Ultra-nationalist Populists and Islamic Fundamentalists are throwing fuel on a fire that will consume Europe.

Sensible Muslims should emigrate before things get worse.

There's no need to overreact and panic about everything getting destroyed.

Overreact? Everything is being destroyed. Wahhabis and wannabe Natsocs are running absolutely wild. Or getting very close to that point. And Populism is swaying more and more Europeans.

And most Leftists are just sitting by and denying that theres a problem in the Muslims community. Making both the far right and Islamic fundamentalist even stronger.

[Vistulange]

No, a realist. Ideologies tell you that something is right or wrong based on dogmatic principles. Me, if higher taxes will make my people live better in the long run, it will be higher taxes. Vice versa, if taxes need to be cut, they should be cut - so on and so forth.

remember guise it's a simple as thatt

Are you going to do anything other than spam your own thread?

[Ostroeuropa]

To be expected given the botched policies of western administrations and escalating tensions as a result of SJWism in combination with neoliberalism straining public infrastructure.

The reaction to these attacks from the establishment will be to SJW harder and harder, because they refuse to admit they are wrong and are themselves the cause of these problems, until eventually there'll be riots, pogroms, and machete butcherings.

If you genuinely give a fuck about the Islamic community, you should be advocating higher taxes for more infrastructure (School places etc.), assimilation policies, and rolling back anti-western rhetoric and policy in institutions.

Or hell, deportation or voluntarily leaving works too. Better that than a continuingly escalating tension that'll lead to massacres sooner or later.

[Jochistan]

No. The attacks are random. But they weirdly enough never seem to happen to fundamentalists.

With how the European far right and Salafi extremists avoid throwing punches at each other you'd think they're afraid of going up against someone who's liable to retaliate against them if they did.

But it's probably both sides independently deciding that stirring up hatred and polarizing society is more in their interest, because they're sodding wankers.

Maybe someone should retaliate against both of them so an actual discourse can be made.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

remember guise it's a simple as thatt

Are you going to do anything other than spam your own thread?

i'm sorry if my posts annoy nothing i can do tho

[Vistulange]

To be expected given the botched policies of western administrations and escalating tensions as a result of SJWism in combination with neoliberalism straining public infrastructure.

The reaction to these attacks from the establishment will be to SJW harder and harder, because they refuse to admit they are wrong and are themselves the cause of these problems, until eventually there'll be riots, pogroms, and machete butcherings.

If you genuinely give a fuck about the Islamic community, you should be advocating higher taxes for more infrastructure (School places etc.), assimilation policies, and rolling back anti-western rhetoric and policy in institutions.

Or hell, deportation or voluntarily leaving works too. Better that than a continuingly escalating tension that'll lead to massacres sooner or later.

But nooo, higher taxes are bad because private savings.

Let us assume that a cultural apocalypse is upon Europe as some people say. Those people tend to hate "communism", as well. So, I wonder, do these people think that their private savings will save their lives in the event of this cultural infighting and total war between the civilisations?

Are you going to do anything other than spam your own thread?

i'm sorry if my posts annoy nothing i can do tho

You could think.

[Jochistan]

To be expected given the botched policies of western administrations and escalating tensions as a result of SJWism in combination with neoliberalism straining public infrastructure.

The reaction to these attacks from the establishment will be to SJW harder and harder, because they refuse to admit they are wrong and are themselves the cause of these problems, until eventually there'll be riots, pogroms, and machete butcherings.

If you genuinely give a fuck about the Islamic community, you should be advocating higher taxes for more infrastructure (School places etc.), assimilation policies, and rolling back anti-western rhetoric and policy in institutions.

Or hell, deportation or voluntarily leaving works too. Better that than a continuingly escalating tension that'll lead to massacres sooner or later.

That would be nice.

I doubt I'd agree with you assimilation policies. But in concept that would be good.

[Outer Sparta]

Can't believe it. Did the firefighters not put out the flames either?

[Ashworth-Attwater]

You could think.

sorry if i'm not smart as you

i do aspire to be like the non-ideological guy who came up with the concept of "hey guys what about we just do everything that's good and do the bad stuff?" one day

lol

[Afrigidoloco]

With how the European far right and Salafi extremists avoid throwing punches at each other you'd think they're afraid of going up against someone who's liable to retaliate against them if they did.

But it's probably both sides independently deciding that stirring up hatred and polarizing society is more in their interest, because they're sodding wankers.

Maybe someone should retaliate against both of them so an actual discourse can be made.

Here in Australia both the [very few] Far Rightists and the [very few] Salafis/Wahhabis are the subject of a very large amount of jokes, whenever either of them protests there are 3 times as many counter protests and their political parties never get any votes, I wish Europe would act the same as us.

[Kelinfort]

I may not agree with you Huey, but I love the reactions to these threads.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

I may not agree with you Huey, but I love the reactions to these threads.

thanks

[Vistulange]

sorry if i'm not smart as you

Thinking =! Intelligence.

Unless we're debating the very base levels of intelligence.

i do aspire to be like the non-ideological guy who came up with the concept of "hey guys what about we just do everything that's good and do the bad stuff?" one day

Yes, it's called "realism" in political science and is loosely linked with "constructivism". Nothing new. Well, nothing 2016, though constructivism has its roots in the post-Cold War era.

lol

What is this, 4chan?

[Major-Tom]

Can't believe it. Did the firefighters not put out the flames either?

Dude, it's France, the firefighters were probably on strike.

[Islamic Republic of Aceh]

This is terrible. But not surprising, obviously, giving the situation in Europe right now.

[Vistulange]

Can't believe it. Did the firefighters not put out the flames either?

Dude, it's France, the firefighters were probably on strike.

Good one.

[Kelinfort]

This is a sad turn of events. Islamic radicals and the radical right bear the blame for this nonsense and I would encourage people to vigorously reject both.

So, based on which perspective you have, either I'm a heartless fascist or a cuck SJW.

[Outer Sparta]

Can't believe it. Did the firefighters not put out the flames either?

Dude, it's France, the firefighters were probably on strike.

Maybe they set fire to the labor office building? However, this is a sad occurence of Islamophobia, and tons of these happen every single year.

[Ashworth-Attwater]

sorry if i'm not smart as you

Thinking =! Intelligence.

Unless we're debating the very base levels of intelligence.

i do aspire to be like the non-ideological guy who came up with the concept of "hey guys what about we just do everything that's good and do the bad stuff?" one day

Yes, it's called "realism" in political science and is loosely linked with "constructivism". Nothing new. Well, nothing 2016, though constructivism has its roots in the post-Cold War era.

lol

What is this, 4chan?

i get it that you like to boast about how you're this cold heartless realist and about how you know a lot about international relations and political science cuz you're in college even though that's not necessarily the case but i was kind of joking about how the concepts of good and bad are subjective when applied to politics and therefore saying "hmmm maybe we should do what improves everyone's lives" is kind of redundant since theoretically that's what everyone including the most polar opposites of the political spectrum is after but whatever this is nsg so saying stuff that makes you look smart cynical and pessimistic is what matters the most

but most importantly why am i debating this with you in a thread about an islamophobic attack that occurred in corsica

also if it were 4chan i'd have said lel instead of lol. lol is used a lot everywhere. you should go on social media more but you're probably too enlightened for that

[Jochistan]

This is a sad turn of events. Islamic radicals and the radical right bear the blame for this nonsense and I would encourage people to vigorously reject both.

So, based on which perspective you have, either I'm a heartless fascist or a cuck SJW.

Same.

[New haven america]

What the genuine fuck are you on about with this implication that people are going to cheer over this, or blame the victims?

Good god, I don't know what pisses me off more; the fact that such attacks happen or that you appear to believe I, or a significant portion of the forum would celebrate the misery of people who've most likely done nothing to deserve such a treatment.

Like, what the fuck. What the actual fuck.

It'll happen, just wait and see.

[Geilinor]

This is a sad turn of events. Islamic radicals and the radical right bear the blame for this nonsense and I would encourage people to vigorously reject both.

So, based on which perspective you have, either I'm a heartless fascist or a cuck SJW.

Same.

Same.