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by American Imperial State » Sun May 01, 2016 10:12 am
by Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 10:15 am
American Imperial State wrote:Sex offender registry should include all sexual deviants.
by The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun May 01, 2016 10:15 am
American Imperial State wrote:Sex offender registry should include all sexual deviants.
by Luziyca » Sun May 01, 2016 10:25 am
by Dread Lady Nathicana » Sun May 01, 2016 11:10 am
Tahar Joblis wrote:Why do we really need anything more than criminal background checks for the purpose of making sure that the information is out there?
What's really all that different between sex offender registries and access to public records that include criminal backgrounds? We have both in place in the US, and in the information age, it's really easy to pull together and correlate things if you need to know.
There are basically three features.
(1) Extra police tracking.
(2) Public notification.
(3) Assortment of patchwork restrictions on, for example, where sex offenders are permitted to live.Do Sex Offender Registration and Notification Laws Affect Criminal Behavior? wrote:At the average registry size, in fact, we find that a
notification regime (not including the distinct effects of a registration system) increases the
number of sex offenses by more than 0.3 offenses per 10,000 people, or 3 percent. These results
suggest that notification may serve as a deterrent to unregistered individuals, but registered
offenders subject to notification may commit more crime, perhaps because of social and financial
costs associated with the public release of their personal information.
The deleterious effects of the patchwork restrictions are well-documented (leading to sex offenders dropping off the grid, living under bridges, et cetera). Extra police tracking doesn't necessarily have a deleterious effect (although it can get expensive) and looks to be helpful - just as you would expect from any investment by police into keeping track of potential criminals.
Can public notification serve as a deterrent? Yes. Does it help prevent recidivism - its supposed purpose? No. The only visible result of trying to mandate crowd-sourcing recidivism prevention is the persecution of offenders, leading ultimately to more, rather than less, recidivism.
Can offender registries be made sane and successfully restricted to only the most dangerous offenders, while excluding those with a low baseline risk of reoffense? I seriously doubt it. Can a public notification process that goes above and beyond normal public access to public records ever be anything but cruel and unusual punishment? I seriously doubt that as well.
The same forces that lead to teenagers sexting (or for that matter having sex with each other) being treated as a serious criminal offense also push them towards being put on sex offender registries. Sex offender registries will not become sane unless the treatment of all minor criminal offenses remotely related to sex becomes sane.
by Neutraligon » Sun May 01, 2016 11:39 am
by Shazbotdom » Sun May 01, 2016 3:17 pm
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CosmoCast || SISA || CCD || CrawDaddy || SCIA || COPEC || Boudreaux's || CLS || SNC || ShazAir || BHC || TWO
NHL: NYR 2 - 0 WSH | COL 1 - 1 WPG | VGK 2 - 0 DAL || NBA: NOLA (8) 0 - 2 OKC (1)
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by The Nihilistic view » Sun May 01, 2016 3:39 pm
by The Alexanderians » Mon May 02, 2016 10:52 am
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
by Shazbotdom » Mon May 02, 2016 4:31 pm
The Alexanderians wrote:Why should anyone be subjected to that? Especially if they're reformed? This stuff never goes away and it can be tacked on for the smallest of things like peeing in public. Shame tactics are bad enough but why would you make a persistent one? No we should have them registered only when they are still a danger to others.
ShazWeb || IIWiki || Discord: shazbertbot || 1 x NFL Picks League Champion (2021)
CosmoCast || SISA || CCD || CrawDaddy || SCIA || COPEC || Boudreaux's || CLS || SNC || ShazAir || BHC || TWO
NHL: NYR 2 - 0 WSH | COL 1 - 1 WPG | VGK 2 - 0 DAL || NBA: NOLA (8) 0 - 2 OKC (1)
NCAA MBB: Tulane 22-19 | LSU 26-16 || NCAA WSB: LSU 35-11
by The Alexanderians » Mon May 02, 2016 4:37 pm
Shazbotdom wrote:The Alexanderians wrote:Why should anyone be subjected to that? Especially if they're reformed? This stuff never goes away and it can be tacked on for the smallest of things like peeing in public. Shame tactics are bad enough but why would you make a persistent one? No we should have them registered only when they are still a danger to others.
So parents shouldn't be able to know if John Smith, known pedophile and convicted child rapist, moved into their neighborhood, or right next door to them? Honestly, there are very few cases of someone being reformed, and having the list available for public viewing so people CAN protect their children and themselves is needed in today's society.
And if you don't agree with it, then talk to the families of people who were raped and murdered before the list was made public.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
by Scarlet Tides » Mon May 02, 2016 4:38 pm
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