Should there be a Sex Offender Registry?

[Major-Tom]

No, because I don't trust the government with mine or anyone else's records. In essence, you are creating yet another database, just like what the (unconstitutional) NSA has.

<Doesn't trust the government with records.
<Seemingly wants privacy.
<Supports state socialism and the DDR anyways.
<Can't see the extreme cognitive dissonance.

[Costa Fierro]

Of course there should be a register, but it should only be for those who have committed serious sexual offenses and who have had more than one conviction. The registry should be made known to organizations and commercial enterprises who work with certain groups of people to ensure that sex offenders do not work in environments where they are likely to offend again. Victims of sexual offending should also have to right to know if a person living near them has a history of sexual offences.

[Gauthier]

There should be even a registry for men charged with sex crimes, before the condemnation I mean, without punishments because people shouldn't be punished as long as they aren't condemned, but such registry would be very useful in order to avoid such suspected (and very likely to be) sex criminals.

"Men merely accused of sex crimes without actual evidence and conviction should be ostracized exactly like serial rapists." Yay! Anything to get that drive to push women back in the kitchen going right?

[The United Holy German Reich]

No, because I don't trust the government with mine or anyone else's records. In essence, you are creating yet another database, just like what the (unconstitutional) NSA has.

<Doesn't trust the government with records.
<Seemingly wants privacy.
<Supports state socialism and the DDR anyways.
<Can't see the extreme cognitive dissonance.

I would under a socialist govt, but not the current US one.

[The East Marches]

Yes, there should be a registry for ALL condemned sex offenders, it MUST be public and offenders should be barred from certain places and jobs.
Women's safeness is a major issue compared to the issue of reintegration of condemned men, so I don't think that a "secret" sex offenders registry woul be a good idea.
There should be even a registry for men charged with sex crimes, before the condemnation I mean, without punishments because people shouldn't be punished as long as they aren't condemned, but such registry would be very useful in order to avoid such suspected (and very likely to be) sex criminals.

Because who needs due process right?

[The East Marches]

Its debatable. The problem with sex offender registries is that it doesn't allow for former offenders to truly reintegrate into society. If you don't want them to reintegrate, why bother to let them go in the first place? I mean, you clearly don't think they've paid their debt to society.

[Gauthier]

Yes, there should be a registry for ALL condemned sex offenders, it MUST be public and offenders should be barred from certain places and jobs.
Women's safeness is a major issue compared to the issue of reintegration of condemned men, so I don't think that a "secret" sex offenders registry woul be a good idea.
There should be even a registry for men charged with sex crimes, before the condemnation I mean, without punishments because people shouldn't be punished as long as they aren't condemned, but such registry would be very useful in order to avoid such suspected (and very likely to be) sex criminals.

Because who needs due process right?

Due process are only for women, silly.

[Gauthier]

Its debatable. The problem with sex offender registries is that it doesn't allow for former offenders to truly reintegrate into society. If you don't want them to reintegrate, why bother to let them go in the first place? I mean, you clearly don't think they've paid their debt to society.

Registries also have a habit of not distinguishing between serial baby rapists and someone who got caught flashing.

[Esternial]

Dunno, kinda sounds like the equivalent of punishment over rehabilitation by labelling people as criminals that can never redeem themselves.

Unless you can somehow get off the registry by doing ten hail Mary’s?

[Diopolis]

Yes, there should be one, but there should also be a way to get off it if you can prove you're rehabilitated. It shouldn't necessarily be easy, but it should be there.
As for it ruining the lives of sex criminals, cry me a river. Maybe not committing sex crime would be a good strategy.

[Diopolis]

Indecent exposure should not be enough to get on the sex offender registry.

[The American Libertarian States]

No. That violates ones privacy and rights.

[Esternial]

Yes, there should be one, but there should also be a way to get off it if you can prove you're rehabilitated. It shouldn't necessarily be easy, but it should be there.
As for it ruining the lives of sex criminals, cry me a river. Maybe not committing sex crime would be a good strategy.

Which you prove by...collecting stamps from women?

Any criteria to get off it would likely be ridiculously arbitrary.

[Diopolis]

It would help him to rehabilitate him by not doing crimes anymore. Well, he should have though twice before comiting his act of crime. And after such much societal pressure he would likely not comitt again his crime since he will learn his lessons. And even if some do comit some future crime he will get a even greater punishment.

If you want to reintegrate then you need a source of income. If we as a society want that income to be legitimate and legal, then there need to be opportunities for released prisoners to find work and housing, good habits should be encouraged, not discouraged. Social pressure is another word for ostracism, which will not help them reintegrate in any way.

We could build villages for only sex offenders to go live in. That way, they can reintegrate in an area with no stigma, while also keeping them away from the general population.

[Esternial]

If you want to reintegrate then you need a source of income. If we as a society want that income to be legitimate and legal, then there need to be opportunities for released prisoners to find work and housing, good habits should be encouraged, not discouraged. Social pressure is another word for ostracism, which will not help them reintegrate in any way.

We could build villages for only sex offenders to go live in. That way, they can reintegrate in an area with no stigma, while also keeping them away from the general population.

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[The American Libertarian States]

We could build villages for only sex offenders to go live in. That way, they can reintegrate in an area with no stigma, while also keeping them away from the general population.

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Than they could have massive sex parties in peace. Win/Win.

[Diopolis]

We could build villages for only sex offenders to go live in. That way, they can reintegrate in an area with no stigma, while also keeping them away from the general population.

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There's already one in Florida. It'll work great; people will get a second chance and we don't have to expose people who aren't sex criminals to unnecessary risks.

[The United Holy German Reich]

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Than they could have massive sex parties in peace. Win/Win.

lol wtf.

[Esternial]

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There's already one in Florida. It'll work great; people will get a second chance and we don't have to expose people who aren't sex criminals to unnecessary risks.

If you think it'll work "great" I think you have not read the Wikipedia page.

Just because there is one doesn't mean it's good.

Maybe we all need more post-meltdown nuclear reactors. I mean, Chernobyl has one. It'll work great.

[The United Holy German Reich]

There's already one in Florida. It'll work great; people will get a second chance and we don't have to expose people who aren't sex criminals to unnecessary risks.

If you think it'll work "great" I think you have not read the Wikipedia page.

Just because there is one doesn't mean it's good.

Maybe we all need more post-meltdown nuclear reactors. I mean, Chernobyl has one. It'll work great.

Agreed. The Fallout universe needs to come to earth, through nuclear reactors, not nukes.

[Donut section]

No here should be no sex offender registry.

All it achieves is a false sense of security, whilst potentially ruining people's lives? You can feel safe, but are never actually safe. And part of being an adult is accepting this and acting accordingly.

[Dooom35796821595]

If you think it'll work "great" I think you have not read the Wikipedia page.

Just because there is one doesn't mean it's good.

Maybe we all need more post-meltdown nuclear reactors. I mean, Chernobyl has one. It'll work great.

Agreed. The Fallout universe needs to come to earth, through nuclear reactors, not nukes.

You'll never get enough fallout from reactor explosions, it needs thousands of nuclear weapons to be detonated.

[Tahar Joblis]

Prosecution, but not persecution. Sex offender registries seem to inevitably wind up creating the latter.

[Wallenburg]

Yes, there should be a registry for ALL condemned sex offenders, it MUST be public and offenders should be barred from certain places and jobs.
Women's safeness is a major issue compared to the issue of reintegration of condemned men, so I don't think that a "secret" sex offenders registry woul be a good idea.
There should be even a registry for men charged with sex crimes, before the condemnation I mean, without punishments because people shouldn't be punished as long as they aren't condemned, but such registry would be very useful in order to avoid such suspected (and very likely to be) sex criminals.

That made it into my dispatch of bullshit statements.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

You're goddamn right there ought to be one. For some things, I have absolutely no problem pulling the name and shame bit. HOWEVER ... our current system is fucked, and it needs serious sorting.

Kids who got slammed with 'offender' status for sexting one another or some shit needs to go. The only people I have any concern about are pedophiles who've acted on their urges and been convicted (they'd automatically go on if they even started to think about acting them out if I had my way, but given that's impossible, lets stick with as much of a justice system as we can get in our flawed setup), convicted rapists, violent offenders, and people who present a real and present potential danger to others.

Why, you might ask?

First - seriously? I'd think anyone who has a history of these types of actions ought to be tagged, and innocent folk have a right to know who may pose a threat in their area. Our system is set up with a heavy bent towards worrying about the 'rights' of the convict, and to hell with the victim's or potential victim's rights as is. A bit of a heads up would be appreciated.

Caveat - if people take it into their own hands to pull any sort of illegal activity, harassment, or otherwise untoward action against someone on the list, they ought to be prosecuted for it. Ain't no call for creating trouble if there is none. By all means, be aware - but people do have a right to live. Even the ones who've done fucked up, like it or not. Not to mention that if someone who's already had problems is monitored, yet left well enough alone otherwise, they may actually have a fair shot at not repeating the action. But push too far, work them into a corner with no options, and I figure even the strongest end up with a 'what do I have to lose' mindset.

Bear with me. It's late, and I'm rambling a bit, but I am trying to get the points across in an understandable enough way.

Bottom line is we need to keep a watch on those who need extra watching without doing so in a way that can create a worse situation, while doing our best to keep more bad things from happening, and enabling the general public to be aware without enabling them to do harm in return.

No, it will never be a perfect system, given how flawed we, as humans are, but hey. You do the crime, you get to live with the consequences, I figure. That may mean time served, and released to attempt to do better. That shouldn't also mean 'completely clean slate' or 'all is forgotten' along with any potential 'forgiven' inference. Hope that made some sort of sense somewhere in there. If not, gimme a shout, and I'll try to elaborate more coherently.