Never said you did. I was just making a general observation.
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by Novus America » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:43 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:47 pm
But we are not going to. The draft is a vital tool. Remember that WWII thing?
by United Kingdom of Kent » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:47 pm
by Novus America » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:50 pm
by United Marxist Nations » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:51 pm
The Kievan People wrote: United Marxist Nations: A prayer for every soul, a plan for every economy and a waifu for every man. Solid.
St. John Chrysostom wrote:A comprehended God is no God.
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:54 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:55 pm
And yes, while WWII wa some time ago, we have to be ready if needed.
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:56 pm
by The Romulan Republic » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:56 pm
Novus America wrote:The Romulan Republic wrote:I support gender equality, but would rather see the draft abolished than see it expanded. In my opinion, a draft constitutes involuntary servitude, and is thus a violation of the 13th. Amendment to the Constitution.
The draft dies not violate the 13th. At all. The courts already ruled on this.
by Novus America » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:59 pm
The Romulan Republic wrote:Novus America wrote:
The draft dies not violate the 13th. At all. The courts already ruled on this.
The Supreme Court also once ruled that black people had no rights white people were obligated to respect.
It may be the law, and we may be obliged to respect it as such for today, but that does not mean that it is right or that the court will never revisit the decision.
And personally, I do not see how the draft cannot be considered involuntary servitude. Which is prohibited by the Constitution except as punishment for a crime.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:01 pm
Ifreann wrote:Yet you've done it, what, 20ish times? I'm confident you could manage another.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:01 pm
Shaggy Dog Story wrote:17 times I think.
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:01 pm
Novus America wrote:The Romulan Republic wrote:
The Supreme Court also once ruled that black people had no rights white people were obligated to respect.
It may be the law, and we may be obliged to respect it as such for today, but that does not mean that it is right or that the court will never revisit the decision.
And personally, I do not see how the draft cannot be considered involuntary servitude. Which is prohibited by the Constitution except as punishment for a crime.
Involuntary servitude refers to slavery. Not doing your duty as a citizen. The draft is not involuntary servitude any more tan jury duty is.
by Novus America » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:01 pm
Ifreann wrote:Novus America wrote:
We could also change it to make everyone wear pink. We could do it. But it is not easy and we do not want to.
Maybe you should consider the pink thing. It'd certainly be a conversation starter.And yes, while WWII wa some time ago, we have to be ready if needed.
Do you? Is there any real possibility of a war that must be won and can only be won by throwing conscripts at the enemy?
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:02 pm
by Wolfmanne2 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:02 pm
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Yeah precipitating on everyone doesn't go down well usually. You seem patient enough to chat to us, i'm willing to count that as nice.
by Conserative Morality » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:04 pm
Shaggy Dog Story wrote:Weren't the first 10 all done as once not 10 separate times?
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:06 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:07 pm
Novus America wrote:Ifreann wrote:Maybe you should consider the pink thing. It'd certainly be a conversation starter.
Do you? Is there any real possibility of a war that must be won and can only be won by throwing conscripts at the enemy?
The draft is not just about "throwing conscripts at the enemey".
There definitely could be a war requiring a massive increase in the number of troops needed though.
by Wisconsin9 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:07 pm
by Frenline Delpha » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:09 pm
by Conserative Morality » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:09 pm
Ifreann wrote:Is it in any way likely?
by Shaggy Dog Story » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:10 pm
by Kubra » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:10 pm
Just gonna point out, since no one else did, that "bitch" was writing during the second world war against a draft that put women in nursing roles. She ain't a modern.Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:Neutraligon wrote:
Because they are not really pro-equality.
That can be gathered from their positions, but I'd like to hear it in the terms of radical feminists themselves and not their detractors.
total and utter horseshit from that bitch.
Yeah, that's not in favor of equality, only the inefficiency of the war effort. Fuck 'em, the SSS needs vaginas to sign up.
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