Libertarianism is another school of anarchism.
Communism is another school of fascism.
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by Janszoonia » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:41 pm
by The Liberated Territories » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:38 pm
Shikihara wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:Some of our more left wing regulars of this thread might be interested in this.
An article by Benjamin Tucker in the early anarchist magazine "Liberty" about the differences between state and non-state socialists.
Why am I interested in it? Because he makes a lot of references to how "state" socialism is simply one giant monopoly replacing a lot of smaller monopolies.
Swallowing the anarcho-pill, TLT?
by Fauxia » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:46 am
Libertarians like small government, but they aren’t anarchists
by Northern Davincia » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:49 am
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Elwher » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:23 am
by Taihei Tengoku » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:29 am
by Jarvis Springs » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:10 am
by Great Minarchistan » Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:49 am
by Mattopilos II » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:00 pm
Taihei Tengoku wrote:It's about making decisions rather than positions. Positionalism is the reason why leftist circles are so toxic to be around and there is no need to import it here.
by Taihei Tengoku » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:57 pm
Mattopilos II wrote:Taihei Tengoku wrote:It's about making decisions rather than positions. Positionalism is the reason why leftist circles are so toxic to be around and there is no need to import it here.
Something something the right never does this I swear
I heard centrists are free from this problem as well! /sarc
by Irona » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:10 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:13 pm
Irona wrote:Taihei Tengoku wrote:you list half a dozen positions every time you post
The left will always have a bigger issue with infighting because the left want to create a 'new world', while the right mostly want to 'return' to some romanticised past. It's easier to agree on what the past looked like than what the future should be.
by The Parkus Empire » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:41 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:06 pm
by Mattopilos II » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:07 am
Irona wrote:Taihei Tengoku wrote:you list half a dozen positions every time you post
The left will always have a bigger issue with infighting because the left want to create a 'new world', while the right mostly want to 'return' to some romanticised past. It's easier to agree on what the past looked like than what the future should be.
by Taihei Tengoku » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:17 am
by The Parkus Empire » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:44 am
by Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:46 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Libertarians, should the federal government force states to permit abortion? And would ancap system permit abortion?
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by The Liberated Territories » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:00 pm
by Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:41 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Of course it depends on how you define "reactionary." A lot of libertarians want to return to the fundamental values of the Constitution for example, but none want to return to the time period it was written in (slavery and all). If Paleolibs want to return to the 1800s, with Jim Crow style segregation laws and so called "laissez-faire" capitalism, then they are reactionary.
Of course "reactionary" is such a marxist buzzword i don't really treat it seriously.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."
by Tekeristan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:42 am
The Liberated Territories wrote:Of course it depends on how you define "reactionary." A lot of libertarians want to return to the fundamental values of the Constitution for example, but none want to return to the time period it was written in (slavery and all). If Paleolibs want to return to the 1800s, with Jim Crow style segregation laws and so called "laissez-faire" capitalism, then they are reactionary.
Of course "reactionary" is such a marxist buzzword i don't really treat it seriously.
by The Liberated Territories » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:55 pm
by Tekeristan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:01 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:In that case I declare anyone who wishes to go back to a world before markets as "reactionary." Especially as collectivism and tribalism are pre-industrial holdovers, and the belief that we should run the government and economy as we would a tribe of 150 people as preposterous.
by The Liberated Territories » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:08 pm
Tekeristan wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:In that case I declare anyone who wishes to go back to a world before markets as "reactionary." Especially as collectivism and tribalism are pre-industrial holdovers, and the belief that we should run the government and economy as we would a tribe of 150 people as preposterous.
Okay? Props to you, but I believe you're simplifying things to a horrific extent just to label something with a term that you think is a swear word.
by Tekeristan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:11 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Tekeristan wrote:Okay? Props to you, but I believe you're simplifying things to a horrific extent just to label something with a term that you think is a swear word.
It's a word that can be warped in any direction one would choose, and isn't very descriptive at all. However I've only seen it applied as a smear word, so I might be biased. Nonetheless calling someone a "reactionary" as a pejorative will only indict eye rolling from me.
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