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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Sun May 29, 2016 2:53 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Irona wrote:What do you guys think about a universal basic income?
Replacing most other forms of welfare and making sure the people who fall through the cracks can survive. It's a left-wing thing but I heard lots of libertarians support it.

I think it's a nice ideal in theory but an inflationary disaster if implemented.

Doesn't Alaska have a policy similar to basic income? Has that been the case there? Have any of the pilot programs demonstrated that to be the case?

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Postby Irona » Sun May 29, 2016 2:54 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Irona wrote:Inflation can be controlled through monetary policy, and after an initial spike in demand where everybody goes spending I think people would be more responsible with it.


You mean by raising the interest rates and inflating the money even more? Because that's the only way you are going to control it through monetary policy. On the other hand, too low interest rates means we have excessive lending going on, also bad.

People don't tend to be responsible with money that's not their own.

Raising interest rates doesn't inflate money, the whole point is it lowers inflation rates. Inflation isn't the worst thing in the world anyway. The people who the money really makes a difference to are the ones who HAVE to be responsible with it.

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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 2:56 pm

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 29, 2016 2:57 pm

West Verrica wrote:Weld took the Majority !


To the debates!
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun May 29, 2016 2:59 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

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Postby Fanosolia » Sun May 29, 2016 3:01 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

Journalists are posting photos now.

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I didn't think someone would take Mcafee that seriously... wow
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Postby The balkens » Sun May 29, 2016 3:04 pm

holy fucking shit.

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Postby Sharania » Sun May 29, 2016 3:05 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Damn Feldman, I underestimated you Jew.


That's very anti-Semitic thing to say, you know?
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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 3:12 pm

The VP nominee for the libertarian party is William Weld.
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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 3:17 pm

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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 3:33 pm

West Verrica wrote:This is by far the most viable ticket we could have possibly gotten, I am very happy despite the fundamental differences in thinking between myself and Johnson + Weld. I think we're going to see a great general election race, and massive growth of the party.

I agree! Johnson is already polling 10% Nationally against Hillary And Trump. I also think that the republican party is coming apart at the seams, and that will majorly help the Libertarian Party.
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Postby Newport 100 » Sun May 29, 2016 3:39 pm

So basically the party is going with weak conservatives in hopes of absorbing the awful "never Trump" conservatives? Oh boy, oh boy.
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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 3:47 pm

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 3:52 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:I think it's a nice ideal in theory but an inflationary disaster if implemented.

Doesn't Alaska have a policy similar to basic income? Has that been the case there? Have any of the pilot programs demonstrated that to be the case?


Mebbe. Although it's not helping it's economy.

The problem is with the examples listed there is they've only been implemented in a limited geographic range or for specific sects of people. I'm not totally opposed to the idea, but I am skeptical of large scale effects of the basic income being positive. I will have to wait until it's actually implemented in say, Switzerland.

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The Liberated Territories wrote:Damn Feldman, I underestimated you Jew.


That's very anti-Semitic thing to say, you know?


Well, he is Jewish.
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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 4:14 pm

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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 4:17 pm

So, now that the presidential candidate and vice candidate it's settled, now it's time to take on the big guns: That is, getting 15% in the polls to get on the debates. Of course that's hard without getting media attention, but since CNN, WSJ, and Fox have all covered the convention and are now covering the results, if we can keep the media blitz up I think we have a chance to pull it off. And of course, the FDC is a slimy organization and may reneg, but if the same establishment conservatives that hate trump also run the FDC, who knows?

I'd love for GayJay to carry some states. States he could perhaps steal could be his home state of New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Montana, New Hampshire, Alaska. This is a good overview. Other states to look out for are Wyoming, Washington, Idaho, and Indiana. Of course this would be pulling a Wallace type victory, and Ross Perot didn't carry any states despite getting 19%, so don't get too excited here. It's just fun speculation for now.
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Postby The Union of the West » Sun May 29, 2016 5:01 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

...why?
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Postby Korouse » Sun May 29, 2016 5:08 pm

The balkens wrote:holy fucking shit.

Whole new definition of "lolbertarian"
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 5:11 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

...why?


Why the hell not? Geez UotW you got to be more open minded.

Korouse wrote:
The balkens wrote:holy fucking shit.

Whole new definition of "lolbertarian"


*cough*
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Postby Korouse » Sun May 29, 2016 5:15 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:...why?


Why the hell not? Geez UotW you got to be more open minded.

Korouse wrote:Whole new definition of "lolbertarian"


*cough*

oops

but really, that guy in the speedo...
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Postby Sharania » Sun May 29, 2016 5:19 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Well, he is Jewish.


Pointing that out, together with writing "damn Feldman" is very offensive.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 29, 2016 5:23 pm

Sharania wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Well, he is Jewish.


Pointing that out, together with writing "damn Feldman" is very offensive.


No it isn't.

The Union of the West wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

...why?


cuz liberty
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Postby Sharania » Sun May 29, 2016 5:37 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No it isn't.


Imagine something similar said about Obama.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 29, 2016 5:38 pm

Sharania wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
No it isn't.


Imagine something similar said about Obama.

Nobody was being anti-Semitic here.
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 5:41 pm

Here's the best case scenario I've made with the 270toWin thingymabob

http://www.270towin.com/maps/qxnxN

Again, I stress this is the best case scenario, not anything realistic, as it assumes invitation to the debates and possible pledged delegates jumping ship, or some last minute Republican action to prevent a Trump scenario. It would also bring it to the House. It's pretty cool tho.

Edit: A few things

-Texas is unstable and may go Red, although that would be a huge loss to the LP
-Washington may go yellow
-Oregon may go blue (in fact I think it might be more plausible the other way around)
-Iowa may go yellow
-North Dakota may go yellow, South Dakota may also be reverse. In fact, I should probably reverse both ND/SD and Washington/Oregon
-Mass may go blue, but since it's Weld's homestate I thought I'd include it.
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