Libertarian Discussion Thread

[Occupied Deutschland]

McAfee was the good kind of crazy but he probably would have gotten nothing but bad press, assuming he got any coverage at all.

He was just too crazy to be president. As a party activist or something, it's OK, but in office?

Honestly, this is what I always saw McAfee as more than anything in regards to American libertarianism. He's a bit...wonky as a political leader, but as an activist or messenger who used the cultural obsession with celebrity and oddities to his advantage he could be entertaining and effective. Like an Iron Man to Johnson's Captain America...And now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure McAfee->Iron-Man is probably the most apt analogy I can come up with for the dude. McAfee's already rocking the goatee.

Regrettably, McAfee doesn't seem to be holding on too much in terms of carrying on the message.

[USS Monitor]

I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump

McAfee definitely plays the badass card better than Trump. If you dumped them on a desert island together, Trump would spend the whole time whining, and McAfee would be the one telling him to get a fucking grip and do something useful.

[West Verrica]

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[Irona]

What do you guys think about a universal basic income?

Replacing most other forms of welfare and making sure the people who fall through the cracks can survive. It's a left-wing thing but I heard lots of libertarians support it.

[USS Monitor]

He was just too crazy to be president. As a party activist or something, it's OK, but in office?

It's a shame he doesn't seem very interested in helping the party, I feel like he could do some great stuff to help at lower levels. Same with Petersen.

I honestly think the party would be better without Petersen. He's basically the living embodiment of everything that people don't like about Libertarians. People like that are why a lot of leftists think the LP is a right-wing party and will not consider voting Libertarian -- even when there is common ground on ending the war on drugs and less aggressive foreign policy.

McAfee could do some good if he was willing to help out at lower levels. I mean, he's nuts, but he's still got style and charisma and can get people's attention.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Well this is probably the most entertaining thing I think I've ever seen on CSPAN.

[West Verrica]

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[Christian Democrats]

Well this is probably the most entertaining thing I think I've ever seen on CSPAN.

The reason your party will never be taken seriously.

[USS Monitor]

He was just too crazy to be president. As a party activist or something, it's OK, but in office?

Honestly, this is what I always saw McAfee as more than anything in regards to American libertarianism. He's a bit...wonky as a political leader, but as an activist or messenger who used the cultural obsession with celebrity and oddities to his advantage he could be entertaining and effective. Like an Iron Man to Johnson's Captain America...And now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure McAfee->Iron-Man is probably the most apt analogy I can come up with for the dude. McAfee's already rocking the goatee.

Regrettably, McAfee doesn't seem to be holding on too much in terms of carrying on the message.

He does have kind of an Iron Man thing going on.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Well this is probably the most entertaining thing I think I've ever seen on CSPAN.

What's happening?

It's a shame he doesn't seem very interested in helping the party, I feel like he could do some great stuff to help at lower levels. Same with Petersen.

I honestly think the party would be better without Petersen. He's basically the living embodiment of everything that people don't like about Libertarians. People like that are why a lot of leftists think the LP is a right-wing party and will not consider voting Libertarian -- even when there is common ground on ending the war on drugs and less aggressive foreign policy.

McAfee could do some good if he was willing to help out at lower levels. I mean, he's nuts, but he's still got style and charisma and can get people's attention.

I dunno, I just feel like if he got some actual experience and changed a few of his positions he could probably help. He seems like the kinda guy who make a good fit for the Senate

[Christian Democrats]

Well this is probably the most entertaining thing I think I've ever seen on CSPAN.

What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down into a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

[Drown]

What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

what

[USS Monitor]

What do you guys think about a universal basic income?

Replacing most other forms of welfare and making sure the people who fall through the cracks can survive. It's a left-wing thing but I heard lots of libertarians support it.

I think it's an interesting concept.

It would waste less money on bureaucracy and administrative costs. A lot of the money that we currently put into our welfare system never even goes to the poor people the system is supposed to help because the system is too complicated, and the means testing creates too much paperwork and red tape.

[The balkens]

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down into a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

sounds like my Saturday night.

[The Liberated Territories]

Pregnancy = / = rape.

Get a grip, ffs.

That depends if it's consensual (cos anything consensual is obviously not rape) and if you consider embryos and fetuses to be people.

If you think embryos and fetuses aren't people yet, then it's not rape, but abortion is still fine because something that is not a person yet does not have rights.

9 months of pregnancy is not equivalent to one action of rape, by the long shot though. If you accept that fetuses aren't people, then you should accept the premise that the fetus has no control over it's situation, and thus doesn't count as rape.

You are starting to sound like the MSNBC opinion talking heads with that rhetoric. Stahp.

[USS Monitor]

What's happening?

On stage, a 300 lb. white male stripped down to a g-string while another man threw $1 bills at him.

[The Liberated Territories]

What do you guys think about a universal basic income?

Replacing most other forms of welfare and making sure the people who fall through the cracks can survive. It's a left-wing thing but I heard lots of libertarians support it.

I think it's a nice ideal in theory but an inflationary disaster if implemented.

[The Liberated Territories]

:blink:

Well this is probably the most entertaining thing I think I've ever seen on CSPAN.

The reason your party will never be taken seriously.

Sounds a lot like the GOP under Donald Trump, at least to the rest of the world and the people who are still sane in America.

[Christian Democrats]

sounds like my Saturday night.

#LegalizeFreedom

(lol)

[Irona]

What do you guys think about a universal basic income?

Replacing most other forms of welfare and making sure the people who fall through the cracks can survive. It's a left-wing thing but I heard lots of libertarians support it.

I think it's a nice ideal in theory but an inflationary disaster if implemented.

Inflation can be controlled through monetary policy, and after an initial spike in demand where everybody goes spending I think people would be more responsible with it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

sounds like my Saturday night.

Why am I not surprised lol

[The Liberated Territories]

I think it's a nice ideal in theory but an inflationary disaster if implemented.

Inflation can be controlled through monetary policy, and after an initial spike in demand where everybody goes spending I think people would be more responsible with it.

You mean by raising the interest rates and inflating the money even more? Because that's the only way you are going to control it through monetary policy. On the other hand, too low interest rates means we have excessive lending going on, also bad.

People don't tend to be responsible with money that's not their own.

[The balkens]

sounds like my Saturday night.

Why am I not surprised lol

My stage name is white privilege.

[USS Monitor]

That depends if it's consensual (cos anything consensual is obviously not rape) and if you consider embryos and fetuses to be people.

If you think embryos and fetuses aren't people yet, then it's not rape, but abortion is still fine because something that is not a person yet does not have rights.

9 months of pregnancy is not equivalent to one action of rape, by the long shot though. If you accept that fetuses aren't people, then you should accept the premise that the fetus has no control over it's situation, and thus doesn't count as rape.

You are starting to sound like the MSNBC opinion talking heads with that rhetoric. Stahp.

If you accept that fetuses aren't people then you're not taking the same position as Petersen. I was talking about his position.

I said in the post you just quoted, if you think embryos and fetuses aren't people yet, then it's not rape.