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Postby USS Monitor » Sun May 29, 2016 1:21 pm

Noxtrem wrote:
West Verrica wrote:Why is experience a con in your book?

Because in my mind, hold a government office in the USA generally means you had to make some kind of deal, or a bribe of some sort. I don't necessarily think that Johnson is the type to do that. But the amount of rampant corruption in the Government of the USA makes me feel like anybody who has been involved with the government is more likey to support the establishment or preserve the government because they fear losing their status. Or they might be bought out by the government. I suppose I'm just extremely anti-establishment.

Johnson is also fairly Un-Libertarian in some aspects. He believes that we should force Jewish Bakers to make Nazi Cakes (or the other way around.).


And Petersen thinks you should be allowed to spend 9 months raping a woman as long as she's your mother. That's what the "pro-life" position on abortion boils down to. If you're up a woman's vagina when she doesn't want you there, that's rape. Nobody has any trouble understanding that when it's a grown man. There's no reason the rules should be different for someone who's not a grown man.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun May 29, 2016 1:23 pm

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Skappola wrote:Gary Johnson won the primary!

Was there ever any doubt?

And thank Jesus that prick Petersen lost.


Thank you, Jesus! :lol:
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 1:26 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Noxtrem wrote:Because in my mind, hold a government office in the USA generally means you had to make some kind of deal, or a bribe of some sort. I don't necessarily think that Johnson is the type to do that. But the amount of rampant corruption in the Government of the USA makes me feel like anybody who has been involved with the government is more likey to support the establishment or preserve the government because they fear losing their status. Or they might be bought out by the government. I suppose I'm just extremely anti-establishment.

Johnson is also fairly Un-Libertarian in some aspects. He believes that we should force Jewish Bakers to make Nazi Cakes (or the other way around.).


And Petersen thinks you should be allowed to spend 9 months raping a woman as long as she's your mother. That's what the "pro-life" position on abortion boils down to. If you're up a woman's vagina when she doesn't want you there, that's rape. Nobody has any trouble understanding that when it's a grown man. There's no reason the rules should be different for someone who's not a grown man.


Pregnancy = / = rape.

Get a grip, ffs.
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Postby Newport 100 » Sun May 29, 2016 1:30 pm

I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump
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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 1:39 pm

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Newport 100 wrote:Petersen makes me sad and angry and Gary Johnson is meh. I really was hoping for McAfee. I think his aesthetic alone would be good to insert into a presidential campaign. No frills, just cocaine and hookers. God bless america


McAfee was the good kind of crazy but he probably would have gotten nothing but bad press, assuming he got any coverage at all.

Especially considering that he was a suspect in a murder in Belize.
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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 pm

Newport 100 wrote:I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump

I wouldn't have loved to see McAfee go on and debate trump face to face.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 pm

Newport 100 wrote:I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump


I didn't trust McAfee. IIRC he said to some sources that he thought running for LP's candidate as the "worst thing in his life" (not sic), a bore, and also that he stubbornly would leave if Gary Johnson got elected. He also accepted a position as a CEO of some company a week before the nomination, so he didn't even believe he was going to win. Feldman, Perry, Petersen at least were authentic in their enthusiasm, I don't think McAfee ever was.

Noxtrem wrote:
Newport 100 wrote:I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump

I wouldn't have loved to see McAfee go on and debate trump face to face.


That, I can agree with.
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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 1:41 pm

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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 1:47 pm

West Verrica wrote:Looks like Sharpe v. Weld

wtf someone voted for gary johnson :P

Weld 426
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Coley 93
Grayson 48
Dearn 29
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Noxtrem wrote:
West Verrica wrote:Looks like Sharpe v. Weld

wtf someone voted for gary johnson :P

Weld 426
Sharpe 264
Coley 93
Grayson 48
Dearn 29
NOTA 6


Thank god the party isn't being dumb.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun May 29, 2016 1:49 pm

*Takes back money*
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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 1:50 pm

*cries because I hate Weld*

But in all seriousness. I am to the point that I'll support who I have to in order to keep Trump and Hillary out of office.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 29, 2016 1:51 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:*Takes back money*


I'll take that money for my machine gun fund if you don't mind :p

Noxtrem wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
McAfee was the good kind of crazy but he probably would have gotten nothing but bad press, assuming he got any coverage at all.

Especially considering that he was a suspect in a murder in Belize.


Yep, every single mention of him would be about that. Johnson might be not as extreme libertarian as some people would like but he can do a good job of getting the name out there.
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Postby West Verrica » Sun May 29, 2016 1:53 pm

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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 1:56 pm

West Verrica wrote:
Noxtrem wrote:*cries because I hate Weld*

But in all seriousness. I am to the point that I'll support who I have to in order to keep Trump and Hillary out of office.

Could be Sharpe, it's going to be close, but weld is probably going to take it. I'm not sure the Drean supporters that haven't gone to weld already will do so.

I'm suprised that Coley isn't doing better. I was expecting him to be polling in at second or first place.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun May 29, 2016 1:58 pm

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Newport 100 wrote:Petersen makes me sad and angry and Gary Johnson is meh. I really was hoping for McAfee. I think his aesthetic alone would be good to insert into a presidential campaign. No frills, just cocaine and hookers. God bless america


McAfee was the good kind of crazy but he probably would have gotten nothing but bad press, assuming he got any coverage at all.


He was just too crazy to be president. As a party activist or something, it's OK, but in office?
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Postby Skappola » Sun May 29, 2016 1:58 pm

Lol at the guy who voted Gary Johnson for the VP to Gary Johnson.
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Postby Skappola » Sun May 29, 2016 1:59 pm

Noxtrem wrote:
West Verrica wrote:Could be Sharpe, it's going to be close, but weld is probably going to take it. I'm not sure the Drean supporters that haven't gone to weld already will do so.

I'm suprised that Coley isn't doing better. I was expecting him to be polling in at second or first place.

Most of the earlier polls showed him as #2. I wonder what happened.
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Postby Fanosolia » Sun May 29, 2016 1:59 pm

Newport 100 wrote:I dont know, McAfee is the libertarian stereotype I want to be associated with. I know its bad for election prospects, but so is being associated with weird gold bug obsession or being a slick douchebag (like Peterson)

And we really dont care about candidates personal moral compass, just look at Trump. I feel like McAfee could play the badass card way better then Trump


I will say I like Mcafee on the philosophical level well Johnson on the policy level.

Noxtrem wrote:I wouldn't have loved to see McAfee go on and debate trump face to face.


It would be interesting to see the mellow stoned philosopher and the wall building screaming idiot go head to head. yes :p
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun May 29, 2016 2:05 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
McAfee was the good kind of crazy but he probably would have gotten nothing but bad press, assuming he got any coverage at all.


He was just too crazy to be president. As a party activist or something, it's OK, but in office?


It's a shame he doesn't seem very interested in helping the party, I feel like he could do some great stuff to help at lower levels. Same with Petersen.
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Postby Noxtrem » Sun May 29, 2016 2:06 pm

Skappola wrote:
Noxtrem wrote:I'm suprised that Coley isn't doing better. I was expecting him to be polling in at second or first place.

Most of the earlier polls showed him as #2. I wonder what happened.

I have no idea. I was rather fond of Coley. But I'm not opposed to Sharpe.
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Postby USS Monitor » Sun May 29, 2016 2:10 pm

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And Petersen thinks you should be allowed to spend 9 months raping a woman as long as she's your mother. That's what the "pro-life" position on abortion boils down to. If you're up a woman's vagina when she doesn't want you there, that's rape. Nobody has any trouble understanding that when it's a grown man. There's no reason the rules should be different for someone who's not a grown man.


Pregnancy = / = rape.

Get a grip, ffs.


That depends if it's consensual (cos anything consensual is obviously not rape) and if you consider embryos and fetuses to be people.

If you think embryos and fetuses aren't people yet, then it's not rape, but abortion is still fine because something that is not a person yet does not have rights.
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