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Libertarian Discussion Thread II: Atlas Hugged
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Libertarian Discussion Thread II: Would You Kindly?
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Libertarian Discussion Thread II: Recreational Nukes
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Libertarian Discussion Thread II: A Man Chooses, A Slave Obeys
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Nulla Bellum
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:25 pm

Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


As someone old enough fo remember when the internet was cool only elite nerds knew what the internet was, I'm not sure having less people accessing it would be a bad thing.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:29 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


As someone old enough fo remember when the internet was cool only elite nerds knew what the internet was, I'm not sure having less people accessing it would be a bad thing.

I doubt the poor are the ones populating ShitChan and the other shit sites like this one.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:34 pm

Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


College is hardly inaccessible to the poor.
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Postby Big Brain City » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:35 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


College is hardly inaccessible to the poor.

You just need one of them evil state subsidies to get some
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:37 pm

Big Brain City wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
College is hardly inaccessible to the poor.

You just need one of them evil state subsidies to get some


Hell, I'd say from personal experience and objective knowledge that college is easier to pay for if you're poor than if you're rich, paradoxically.
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Postby Big Brain City » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:42 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:You just need one of them evil state subsidies to get some


Hell, I'd say from personal experience and objective knowledge that college is easier to pay for if you're poor than if you're rich, paradoxically.

How? Not doubting you here- but I'm curious.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:37 am

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Big Brain City wrote:You just need one of them evil state subsidies to get some


Hell, I'd say from personal experience and objective knowledge that college is easier to pay for if you're poor than if you're rich, paradoxically.


I'd say. I came out of college $150,000 in debt.
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Postby Elwher » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:28 am

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


As someone old enough fo remember when the internet was cool only elite nerds knew what the internet was, I'm not sure having less people accessing it would be a bad thing.


Once command lines were replaced by GUIs, the great unwashed got access and the result is what we have today.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:02 pm

Big Brain City wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Hell, I'd say from personal experience and objective knowledge that college is easier to pay for if you're poor than if you're rich, paradoxically.

How? Not doubting you here- but I'm curious.


Of course, if you're super-rich, you can pay for college out of pocket easily, but for those who are rich enough not to get any financial aid but not that rich to where 100k debt isn't severe, they would have a much easier time paying if they were poor, as poor people can have up to 85% of their tuition covered (like me).
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:45 pm

Elwher wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
As someone old enough fo remember when the internet was cool only elite nerds knew what the internet was, I'm not sure having less people accessing it would be a bad thing.


Once command lines were replaced by GUIs, the great unwashed got access and the result is what we have today.


::thumbs up::

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Postby Liberated Territories » Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:29 pm

Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L'opprobre de tous les partis,
Tremblez! vos projets parricides
Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix!
Tout est soldat pour vous combattre,
S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros,
La terre en produit de nouveaux,
Contre vous tout prêts à se battre!


Happy Bastille Day!
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:34 pm

Liberated Territories wrote:Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L'opprobre de tous les partis,
Tremblez! vos projets parricides
Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix!
Tout est soldat pour vous combattre,
S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros,
La terre en produit de nouveaux,
Contre vous tout prêts à se battre!


Happy Bastille Day!

Time to show some French pride.
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Postby Elwher » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:07 am

Liberated Territories wrote:Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L'opprobre de tous les partis,
Tremblez! vos projets parricides
Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix!
Tout est soldat pour vous combattre,
S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros,
La terre en produit de nouveaux,
Contre vous tout prêts à se battre!


Happy Bastille Day!


In 1789, the citizens of Paris, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking life and limb at the hands of the Army, stormed the Bastille, releasing the people imprisoned therein thereof.
In 2014, the citizens of Fergusion, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking cut hands and feet by the broken glass they created, stormed the Quik-Trip store, releasing the cases of beer imprisoned therein.
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Postby Liberated Territories » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:10 pm

If you ever doubt economic liberalism, just read about Greece's crisis.

According to one source, raising taxes in Greece to promote austerity had the opposite effect intended — instead of increasing government revenue to pay back the debt, it actually shrunk revenue and encouraged people to withhold transactions and work within the black market. Unlike neoliberals, libertarians share the same skepticism about austerity with the left, just for entirely different reasons.

http://www.kathimerini.gr/845083/articl ... a-ta-esoda (in Greek)

But that doesn't matter because muh trickle down economics never worked reee
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:18 pm

Elwher wrote:
Liberated Territories wrote:Tremblez, tyrans et vous perfides
L'opprobre de tous les partis,
Tremblez! vos projets parricides
Vont enfin recevoir leurs prix!
Tout est soldat pour vous combattre,
S'ils tombent, nos jeunes héros,
La terre en produit de nouveaux,
Contre vous tout prêts à se battre!


Happy Bastille Day!


In 1789, the citizens of Paris, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking life and limb at the hands of the Army, stormed the Bastille, releasing the people imprisoned therein thereof.
In 2014, the citizens of Fergusion, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking cut hands and feet by the broken glass they created, stormed the Quik-Trip store, releasing the cases of beer imprisoned therein.


*Ferguson
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Postby Northern Davincia » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:26 am

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Elwher wrote:
In 1789, the citizens of Paris, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking life and limb at the hands of the Army, stormed the Bastille, releasing the people imprisoned therein thereof.
In 2014, the citizens of Fergusion, justly outraged by the unjust imprisonment of their members, risking cut hands and feet by the broken glass they created, stormed the Quik-Trip store, releasing the cases of beer imprisoned therein.


*Ferguson

Fergusion is a much better name for it, though.
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Postby Malve and Majavera » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:32 pm

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Postby Nulla Bellum » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:52 pm

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Postby Nulla Bellum » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:30 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
*Ferguson

Fergusion is a much better name for it, though.


I lived in St. Louis County during that police state shitshow. I don't condone the rioting but I do believe the cop that killed Michael Brown was guilty AF.
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Postby The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:38 pm

A Libertarian thread, awesome. seems like my kind of thread.

as my real political views are left libertarianism.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:42 pm

The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi wrote:A Libertarian thread, awesome. seems like my kind of thread.

as my real political views are left libertarianism.

johnson 2020


Johnson isn't running in 2020.
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Postby The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi wrote:A Libertarian thread, awesome. seems like my kind of thread.

as my real political views are left libertarianism.

johnson 2020


Johnson isn't running in 2020.


Dosen't mean i wouldn't want him to run
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:30 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi wrote:A Libertarian thread, awesome. seems like my kind of thread.

as my real political views are left libertarianism.

johnson 2020


Johnson isn't running in 2020.


It's bad enough they don't ask him to leave the conventions.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:34 am

conservative republicans and economic libertarians seem to share certain economic views.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:10 am

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Liberated Territories wrote:Calling it now: in 20 years the internet is going to be in be in the same place as healthcare or college tuition is today: regulated, expensive, and inaccessible to the poor.


College is hardly inaccessible to the poor.


This. Not gonna lie, but if you go for a decent college and pay $7k tuition, you'll graduate with roughly $30k in debt (easy to pay after some years). That if you don't get a job, because if you work part-time to pay for college, it's even less debt.
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