Libertarian Discussion Thread

[The RODina]

Oh look, it is the same tired leftist buzzwords against trump. There is absolutely no evidence for any of those.
He is the most honest person to run for president in the last hundred years.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -lies-lies
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... uptcy-lies
http://trumplies.com/
This is rather false.

Oh look its some pro Hillary lefty websites! If they say trump is a liar he must be!
Listen, I know he is far from perfect anyway, but look at the joke that has been every American politician for a hundred years. Hillary covers up for rape, murder and god knows what else, compulsively lies all the time, whether it is about coming under fire in Yugoslavia, or any of the other lies that simply didn't even need to exist. All these websites will happy overlook hillary's evil and corruption.
Trump is just demonized by the media for being the only one willing to take a stand against the UN, the fed, corruption and especially hillary's warmongering. So i don't take any credence from these CTR funded shill websites.

[Nubasia]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -lies-lies
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... uptcy-lies
http://trumplies.com/
This is rather false.

Oh look its some pro Hillary lefty websites! If they say trump is a liar he must be!
Listen, I know he is far from perfect anyway, but look at the joke that has been every American politician for a hundred years. Hillary covers up for rape, murder and god knows what else, compulsively lies all the time, whether it is about coming under fire in Yugoslavia, or any of the other lies that simply didn't even need to exist. All these websites will happy overlook hillary's evil and corruption.
Trump is just demonized by the media for being the only one willing to take a stand against the UN, the fed, corruption and especially hillary's warmongering. So i don't take any credence from these CTR funded shill websites.

I'm not trying to paint Hillary in a positive light, but to say Trump isn't bigoted, isn't a liar, and isn't an authoritarian is to really go against well-established facts.

[USS Monitor]

He's bigoted, dishonest, psychologically unbalanced, authoritarian, and incompetent.



Got scuttled and burned by those lousy secesh she was hanging out with. That's why you shouldn't hang out with people like that.

Oh look, it is the same tired leftist buzzwords against trump. There is absolutely no evidence for any of those.
He is the most honest person to run for president in the last hundred years.

That must be why he keeps getting sued and contradicting himself and refusing to release his tax returns.

[Drown]

Oh look, it is the same tired leftist buzzwords against trump. There is absolutely no evidence for any of those.
He is the most honest person to run for president in the last hundred years.

That must be why he keeps getting sued and contradicting himself and refusing to release his tax returns.

He'll release his taxes when Clinton releases her emails.

[USS Monitor]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... -lies-lies
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... uptcy-lies
http://trumplies.com/
This is rather false.

Oh look its some pro Hillary lefty websites! If they say trump is a liar he must be!
Listen, I know he is far from perfect anyway, but look at the joke that has been every American politician for a hundred years.

Don't diss Eisenhower!

[USS Monitor]

That must be why he keeps getting sued and contradicting himself and refusing to release his tax returns.

He'll release his taxes when Clinton releases her emails.

When is he going to stop contradicting himself, ripping people off, and spewing hateful shit?

[Drown]

He'll release his taxes when Clinton releases her emails.

When is he going to stop contradicting himself, ripping people off, and spewing hateful shit?

When all the illegal mexicans and liberals BTFO

[Community Values]

When is he going to stop contradicting himself, ripping people off, and spewing hateful shit?

When all the illegal mexicans and liberals BTFO

So, he is contradicting himself, ripping people off, and spews hateful shit?

Nice. That's what I want for a president.

[Zurkerx]

Ron Paul won't be voting for the Libertarian Nominee, Gary Johnson

Really now? I understand he isn't the purest of Libertarians but to suggest the Green Party? Umm, no.

That's been disproven.

Well, I figure he wasn't going to vote for him. However, it is still upsetting he isn't considering Johnson, the closet to him politically.

[Elwher]

A lot can happen in 12 years.

I am eligible in 2020, but I doubt loading trucks and moderating NSG is considered a strong resume.

Battling the Merrimack has to count for something. You protected our freedoms. You know, 'MURRICA and all that.

Please, people, the Merrimack was scuttled and burned, and never fought a single battle. The Monitor fought the CSS Virginia. despite the truth not being as euphonious.

[Idzequitch]

While I don't necessarily consider myself a libertarian, i really want to know if you guys support Gary Johnson, and furthermore, if you do, i want to know how a self respecting libertarian can support a candidate who is anti gun like Johnson

Johnson supports a very few common sense safety measures with guns, but he's actually very friendly to the second amendment. If you think he's anti-gun rights, you've obviously only seen the few soundbites that Trump and his supporters want you to hear.

[Washington Resistance Army]

While I don't necessarily consider myself a libertarian, i really want to know if you guys support Gary Johnson, and furthermore, if you do, i want to know how a self respecting libertarian can support a candidate who is anti gun like Johnson

Johnson supports a very few common sense safety measures with guns, but he's actually very friendly to the second amendment. If you think he's anti-gun rights, you've obviously only seen the few soundbites that Trump and his supporters want you to hear.

Trump is far more anti-gun than Johnson anyways.

[Fanosolia]

No True Scotsman fallacy.

Not an argument

So people like Rodrick T Long and the center for a stateless society is diluting the ideology?

[Nagarael]

While I don't necessarily consider myself a libertarian, i really want to know if you guys support Gary Johnson, and furthermore, if you do, i want to know how a self respecting libertarian can support a candidate who is anti gun like Johnson

Johnson supports a very few common sense safety measures with guns, but he's actually very friendly to the second amendment. If you think he's anti-gun rights, you've obviously only seen the few soundbites that Trump and his supporters want you to hear.

I don't understand the constant use of "common sense" in the firearms debate.

It's thrown in randomly everywhere without thought. Such lazy, ineffective manipulation.

[USS Monitor]

Battling the Merrimack has to count for something. You protected our freedoms. You know, 'MURRICA and all that.

Please, people, the Merrimack was scuttled and burned, and never fought a single battle. The Monitor fought the CSS Virginia. despite the truth not being as euphonious.

Secesh can't do anything right, not even naming their ships.

[Zurkerx]

I won't be eligible until 2028, so I guess that's plenty of time for me to change my mind

A lot can happen in 12 years.

I am eligible in 2020, but I doubt loading trucks and moderating NSG is considered a strong resume.

I won't be eligible until 2032 and I have it somewhat map out on what I like to do.

[Idzequitch]

Johnson supports a very few common sense safety measures with guns, but he's actually very friendly to the second amendment. If you think he's anti-gun rights, you've obviously only seen the few soundbites that Trump and his supporters want you to hear.

I don't understand the constant use of "common sense" in the firearms debate.

It's thrown in randomly everywhere without thought. Such lazy, ineffective manipulation.

If keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally unstable isn't common sense, then I don't know what is.

[Nagarael]

I don't understand the constant use of "common sense" in the firearms debate.

It's thrown in randomly everywhere without thought. Such lazy, ineffective manipulation.

If keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally unstable isn't common sense, then I don't know what is.

Even if I were to concede that point, that is hardly the only context in which such words are used, correct?

I was not referencing your point in particular, by the way. Apologies if it seemed that way.

I was more musing to myself about the situation in general with your post acting as a catalyst of sorts.

But, to be frank, I don't believe common sense is a thing in the way that many seem to see it.

[Idzequitch]

If keeping firearms out of the hands of the mentally unstable isn't common sense, then I don't know what is.

Even if I were to concede that point, that is hardly the only context in which such words are used, correct?

I was not referencing your point in particular, by the way. Apologies if it seemed that way.

I was more musing to myself about the situation in general with your post acting as a catalyst of sorts.

But, to be frank, I don't believe common sense is a thing in the way that many seem to see it.

Sensibility is not as common as we seem to think it should be. *nod*

[Idzequitch]

I'm sure no one is surprised, but it's official. Gary Johnson has not been included in the second debate.

[Elwher]

Johnson supports a very few common sense safety measures with guns, but he's actually very friendly to the second amendment. If you think he's anti-gun rights, you've obviously only seen the few soundbites that Trump and his supporters want you to hear.

I don't understand the constant use of "common sense" in the firearms debate.

It's thrown in randomly everywhere without thought. Such lazy, ineffective manipulation.

I have always had a problem with the term 'common sense' in any usage. What is referred to as common sense is anything but common, it is actually quite rare.

[Zurkerx]

I'm sure no one is surprised, but it's official. Gary Johnson has not been included in the second debate.

It really shouldn't be a surprise. I expect he'll fail to qualify for the third one too. At this point, it is now the objective to break 5% in order to obtain public funding.

[The Liberated Territories]

I hate the blame game on the mentally ill.

The mentally ill rarely attack people beyond their own family. While government may be justified in banning guns from being owned by people who live in a different reality or are delusional (the common conception of mentally ill), they also in the process disarm those truly disadvantaged by the system. People, for example, with autism that are more likely to be cheated, taken advantage of, or otherwise harmed. Finally, I do not trust the government with the creation of a classification system for those who are mentally ill, and denying people their freedoms because of that. And of course, such a classification can also be abused.

[Nubasia]

I hate the blame game on the mentally ill.

The mentally ill rarely attack people beyond their own family. While government may be justified in banning guns from being owned by people who live in a different reality or are delusional (the common conception of mentally ill), they also in the process disarm those truly disadvantaged by the system. People, for example, with autism that are more likely to be cheated, taken advantage of, or otherwise harmed. Finally, I do not trust the government with the creation of a classification system for those who are mentally ill, and denying people their freedoms because of that. And of course, such a classification can also be abused.

Holy damn. I am agreeing with a ""libertarian"" for the first time since ever.

[The Liberated Territories]

I hate the blame game on the mentally ill.

The mentally ill rarely attack people beyond their own family. While government may be justified in banning guns from being owned by people who live in a different reality or are delusional (the common conception of mentally ill), they also in the process disarm those truly disadvantaged by the system. People, for example, with autism that are more likely to be cheated, taken advantage of, or otherwise harmed. Finally, I do not trust the government with the creation of a classification system for those who are mentally ill, and denying people their freedoms because of that. And of course, such a classification can also be abused.

Holy damn. I am agreeing with a ""libertarian"" for the first time since ever.

no no no

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