Jute wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:That's true. I'm sympathetic to that actually, I have C4SS on my bloglist, but whenever I lean too far left or try to build bridges, it's some edgy ancom bad mouthing libertarians pushes me back to the "right" again. I of course invite all respectable left market libertarians to this thread under the belief that there is more similarities between "left" and "right" than say, libertarians and conservatives or liberals or any other ideology.
Why would what some people with other views say about it bother you so much? What about right-wing politics do you find appealing?
Anarcho-communists and similar friends dump the entirety of libertarian philosophical thought in favor of some nihilistic rage that in practice, makes it no better than the same violence employed by the state. There's nothing libertarian about say, burning down local businesses in protest (whom I might add employ people and harm the wage laborers when the businesses profits are redirected into repairing the damage that these anarchists cause to it.) Fine, I can understand that there are systematic inequalities in the system, but. If you want to convince people that your ideology is superior, 1.) don't come off as an arrogant asshole, 2.) don't actively deride the people you are trying to win over 3.) don't advocate threats, or support the state when it does something that you like, like some "anarchists" who support the state enacting laws against hate speech because it satisfies your jollies on seeing our opposition (generally fascists) similarly oppressed as they would oppress you. I cannot support an ideology where for every 1 honest Carson/Long market libertarian intellectual, there are 9 of the above. Finally, my experiences with RevLeft convinced me that instead of being open to the idea of free(d) markets, they put their faith into what I see as an unrealistic, unobtainable system that defies much of the laws of economics. Finally, the whole putting quotes in front of "anarcho" capitalism is immature and exhausting, and I'm not even an ancap.
As for purely market anarchism...
There are also
some economic problems I have with some forms of left-libertarianism, although this isn't universal. And finally, much of my political thought had been solidified by the late Robert Nozick who shown many ways that a market anarchist society would revert back to a state. The only form of left-libertarianism I can see happening is a Henry George style geo-libertarianism, although I ultimately would rather see taxation abolished.
Should I care? Probably not, as an ardent individualist. But I see a lot of massive holes, e.g. while some parts of the left-libertarian ideology are well thought out, it doesn't seem to advocate for anything substantial or isn't particularly pragmatic, which leaves left-libertarianism into some odd sort of rut.
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:03 pm
