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Pwnage or Wait a Minute?

PWNAGE@!!!: I don't care how or why, I'm in it for teh lulz, and I got them.
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Pwnage: The black man got what was coming to him, especially after physically harming the man by punching him first.
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Too Hard: It's too difficult to tell exactly what started this, for all I know, Bruso could be responsible for the ramifications of the conversation.
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Conflict Bad: Just or not, conflict is bad, this shouldn't have happened even if Bruso retained the "right" to defend himself.
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Obvious Racist Old Man is Obvious: Self-explanatory.
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Obvious Racist Young Black Man and/or Black Female Friends is/are Obvious. Self explanatory.
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He Had No Right to Pwn: Another self-explanatory choice.
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Generating Negative Response: I'm more concerned about the derogatory responses from the viewers.
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Old White Man Beats Younger Black Man

Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:51 pm

Thomas Bruso, apparently a 67-year-old Santa Claus, kicked ass in "self-defense" when a younger black man verbally and later physically threatened him on a bus.

I honestly have virtually no idea what actually caused this, the video, to me anyways, only becomes audible at about 0:35 seconds in forward.

Apparently the younger black man charged some amount of money for something that got him and Bruso talking, which evolved into hostility, causing Bruso to move away from the black man and his concubi female friends, who were also antagonizing him (that, or he was "unfairly kicked off of the bus" as the video-poster states in the description).

One of these same girls video-taped the first two parts of this video, and arguably the third part which presents a moot point as to whether or not the old man in it is Bruso or just another Santa Claus at an Oakland A's game.

Also, the ladies stole Bruso's bag subsequent to him leaving the bus, having the desire to look through it. It is unknown if he got his bag back, or what kind of marijuana was contained within it.

However it arose, Bruso was eventually punched, in the stomach as the video-poster describes as the following:

BannedennaB wrote:"In the recording you can clearly see the young man strike the old mans stomach first."


Which led to the younger black man getting his "welfare check hand-delivered to him straight to his nose," as some of the commenting viewers stated on the video commenting section.

What's the topic of discussion? Taken directly from the title of the video's Part 1:

Elongated Title wrote:"67 years old guy beats a younger black man in self defense"


Ha, you knew self-defense was coming.

Proceed: right or wrong based off of your interpretation(s) of the video, plausible reasons based off of feasible instances not occuring in the video, the fact that it's Black History Month, and so on and so on.
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Postby Soratsin » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:58 pm

The old guy or "epic beard man" is Tom Slick, a mentally disturbed Vietnam war veteran who's supposedly notorious for his violent outbursts in Oakland, and has a huge rap sheet.

Here's the same guy getting tasered at a ball game for sitting in the wrong seat and having open alcohol containers with him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URYXWWRrArQ

So I'd go with the answer that no one is really at fault here.

Although I did find it enraging that the girl filming the fight was furious and wanted to press charges because it went down exactly as she wanted it to, except with the roles reversed, old white guy beating the shit out of the young black guy.
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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:02 pm

Hard to say what happened before the filming started. The older guy seemed to be pissed off at some comment the other guy had made or a comment he THOUGHT the other guy had made before. They were both rude, and both escalated. Idiots both of them.

Claiming that one threatened the other is foolish. They were both extremely agitated with one another, verbally and physically, so this is not a case of a black guy just randomly picking on some poor old white guy.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:10 pm

Neesika wrote:Hard to say what happened before the filming started. The older guy seemed to be pissed off at some comment the other guy had made or a comment he THOUGHT the other guy had made before. They were both rude, and both escalated. Idiots both of them.

Claiming that one threatened the other is foolish. They were both extremely agitated with one another, verbally and physically, so this is not a case of a black guy just randomly picking on some poor old white guy.

Just seems like a fair fight. No need for the courts to get involved.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:12 pm

Neesika wrote:Hard to say what happened before the filming started. The older guy seemed to be pissed off at some comment the other guy had made or a comment he THOUGHT the other guy had made before. They were both rude, and both escalated. Idiots both of them.

Claiming that one threatened the other is foolish. They were both extremely agitated with one another, verbally and physically, so this is not a case of a black guy just randomly picking on some poor old white guy.

Just seems like a fair fight. No need for the courts to get involved.
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Postby Parthenon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:14 pm

The only thing old is this video...
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Postby Urgolon » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:14 pm

Your poll is racist as it does not include

"Obvious Racist Young Man is Obvious: Self-explanatory."
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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:15 pm

Urgolon wrote:Your poll is racist as it does not include

"Obvious Racist Young Man is Obvious: Self-explanatory."


Exactly, you solved the thread.

However, I must also point out that you're a sexist, as you excluded the black women involved in this, primarily the one who filmed the thing and made many derogatory comments towards the Epic Beard Man.
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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:16 pm

greed and death wrote:Just seems like a fair fight. No need for the courts to get involved.

So you've said :D

Except now that it's all over the internet it might have to go to court.

I think it ended just fine as well though the older guy did take it a little far. *shrugs* Not like I haven't done the same. Thank god no one had camera phones back then.
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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:20 pm

Parthenon wrote:The only thing old is this video...


Age isn't a factor on the Internet, and time is irrelevant.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:29 pm

Neesika wrote:
greed and death wrote:Just seems like a fair fight. No need for the courts to get involved.

So you've said :D

Except now that it's all over the internet it might have to go to court.

I think it ended just fine as well though the older guy did take it a little far. *shrugs* Not like I haven't done the same. Thank god no one had camera phones back then.

He stopped once the other guy wasn't moving it seemed.
Besides who wants to press charges when a 67 year old man whips your ass. It is just too embarrassing.
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Postby North Wiedna » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:32 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:
Parthenon wrote:The only thing old is this video...


Age isn't a factor on the Internet, and time is irrelevant.


For those of you that haven't heard, four planes crashed into the following targets:
WTC1
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It was a very sad day.


I just proved time is relevant.
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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:33 pm

greed and death wrote:He stopped once the other guy wasn't moving it seemed.
Besides who wants to press charges when a 67 year old man whips your ass. It is just too embarrassing.

You don't press charges. The prosecution does. Is my point.
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Postby Flameswroth » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:47 pm

Neesika wrote:You don't press charges. The prosecution does. Is my point.

So does it become like, "City vs Epic Beard Man" or "<insert bus company> vs Epic Beard Man" or what?
greed and death wrote:He stopped once the other guy wasn't moving it seemed.
Besides who wants to press charges when a 67 year old man whips your ass. It is just too embarrassing.

Don't you know? Black people will do anything if there's a possibility of making some chaching, knowutahmsayin dawg? After all, that's why they are so prone to go on welfare, they got no sense of shame!*

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:52 pm

Flameswroth wrote:
Neesika wrote:You don't press charges. The prosecution does. Is my point.

So does it become like, "City vs Epic Beard Man" or "<insert bus company> vs Epic Beard Man" or what?

Likely the People of City vs. Epic Beard guy.
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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:52 pm

Flameswroth wrote:So does it become like, "City vs Epic Beard Man" or "<insert bus company> vs Epic Beard Man" or what?


The People of Wherever v. Epic Beard Man.

In Canada it would be R. v. Epic Beard Man. (R for Regina or Rex, depending)
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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:54 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Flameswroth wrote:
Neesika wrote:You don't press charges. The prosecution does. Is my point.

So does it become like, "City vs Epic Beard Man" or "<insert bus company> vs Epic Beard Man" or what?

Likely the People of City vs. Epic Beard guy.

Na, it'd be the People of the State or the Federal district. Some stupid annoying shit like that.

R. v. is easier.
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Postby Flameswroth » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:55 pm

Neesika wrote:
Flameswroth wrote:So does it become like, "City vs Epic Beard Man" or "<insert bus company> vs Epic Beard Man" or what?


The People of Wherever v. Epic Beard Man.

In Canada it would be R. v. Epic Beard Man. (R for Regina or Rex, depending)

I would give my life my left nut my whole paycheck five bucks to have the official court records for that case read as The People vs Epic Beard Man.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:00 pm

I was googling this guy.
He is a Special forces Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos Veteran.
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Postby Naturality » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:00 pm

I honestly think the black man (age 50 from what I've read) would not have went up to the front and touched him if that stupid bitch (the one recording it, telling him to say it again, Pinky! Say it again! Kick his white ass) had kept her mouth shut. She instigated this on then took the guys bag and made a video about it. *sigh*

Google has blocked the Encyclopedia Dramatica Epic Beard Man search hit. CBS already sent someone out to interview her. That chick with the headphones on sitting there doing nothing is having songs written about her.. this is crazy.

I feel sorry for both of the dudes.

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Postby Neesika » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:03 pm

Naturality wrote:I honestly think the black man (age 50 from what I've read) .

Wow. 50? Black people age well.
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Postby Naturality » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:05 pm

Forgot to add. I love Epic Beard Dudes shirt! hahaha. I'm reading stuff about him all over the place.

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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:05 pm

What has the world come to to when a young black man can't beat down an old white man? Jeesh. Oakland's starting to feel safer already.
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Postby Naturality » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:14 pm

Neesika wrote:
Naturality wrote:I honestly think the black man (age 50 from what I've read) .

Wow. 50? Black people age well.



Yeah, and his hair style probably made him come off as younger looking also.

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Postby Tokos » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:26 pm

Don't punch someone and expect them not to punch back.

Especially if they look like a powder keg.
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