Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread ٢

[Kubumba Tribe]

Sorry if I'm interrupting or causing a diversion in a discussion, but I was curious if anyone here has read The True American by Anand Gridharadas? My entire Freshman class in college had to read it and I thought it was an absolutely phenomenal read; a complete account of a real event and it was eye opening for me. The author, Anand, and the Protagonist named Rais also spoke at my college, and those two are officially my idols.

For some context, it's an account of a man by the named of Rais Bhuiyan and his life when he moved from Bangladesh to Texas in the United States (side note, he is Muslim.) After 9/11, a man by the name of Mark Stroman shot him in the face (and killed two others) for being dark skinned/Muslim. Mark was sentence to death afterwards. The story continues about Rais, the man Mark shot, trying to save his life and get him off death row based on Islamic mercy and forgiveness.

If you have read it, I'd like to talk about it. If not, I HIGHLY recommend it; it's well written and really opens perspectives (it did for me, at least, as a non-Muslim).

I've never read the book before, sounds interesting though...

[Unpredictable Galaxy]

Sorry if I'm interrupting or causing a diversion in a discussion, but I was curious if anyone here has read The True American by Anand Gridharadas? My entire Freshman class in college had to read it and I thought it was an absolutely phenomenal read; a complete account of a real event and it was eye opening for me. The author, Anand, and the Protagonist named Rais also spoke at my college, and those two are officially my idols.

For some context, it's an account of a man by the named of Rais Bhuiyan and his life when he moved from Bangladesh to Texas in the United States (side note, he is Muslim.) After 9/11, a man by the name of Mark Stroman shot him in the face (and killed two others) for being dark skinned/Muslim. Mark was sentence to death afterwards. The story continues about Rais, the man Mark shot, trying to save his life and get him off death row based on Islamic mercy and forgiveness.

If you have read it, I'd like to talk about it. If not, I HIGHLY recommend it; it's well written and really opens perspectives (it did for me, at least, as a non-Muslim).

I've never read the book before, sounds interesting though...

It's in my top five books of all time now; I think, at least, every American (I am American myself) should pick it up and read it to its full length. It really is an incredible book.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't need the help anymore, the nation stopped invading me.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't need the help anymore, the nation stopped invading me.

Wrong thread >w<

[Jochizyd Republic]

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Has anyone done Hadra Zhikr before?

I can tell you, it's a profound experience. At first cathartic but then something much more once you realize the symbolism, the meaning and your place in it.

[Baltenstein]

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert

Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

[The North Kavkaza]

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

Assalamu alaykum. What's the problem?

And I have similar issues as well. There's no need to beat yourself up over it.

[Jochizyd Republic]

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert

Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

[Jochizyd Republic]

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

Assalamu alaykum. What's the problem?

And I have similar issues as well. There's no need to beat yourself up over it.

Wa Aleykum Salaam.

No, haha. That parts alright. I just don't get why he thinks I can help him.

[Baltenstein]

Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

Is his family disapproving to the point of disinheriting him, or are they simply dissatisifed?

[Caliphate of the Netherlands]

Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.

[The North Kavkaza]

Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?

One of my friends (more of an acquaintance) just called to ask me for relationship advice because his family didn't approve of a White Shi'a Convert he wanted to marry but was having trouble with.

Because asking a 20 year old borderline shut in who has never actually had a real girlfriend is the thing to do in this situation.

See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.

Wa Alaykum Salaam.

And I'm happy to see another revert.

[Jochizyd Republic]

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

Is his family disapproving to the point of disinheriting him, or are they simply dissatisifed?

Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it. Other problems too.

See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.

Wa aleykum salaam.

I guess.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Wa salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah

Greetings again. Was busy these weeks with my study (had some exams plus some other things to handle) but I'm back for a week. After that our project weeks will start.

So the girl I went out with last week saturday, whom I wrote about in the thread, is very cool. We just hanged around and spoke. Feels funny to meet a person who you talk online with for over one year. Hell I was nervous, I am going to meet her this winter again in Berlin probably. And I like her, we didn't do anything romantic per se but we often had these moments we just looked at eachother and smiled. We did some waterbiking in Amsterdam's canals, ate food together and went to a museum. I miss that Saturday. Hated when I had to leave.

Aside from that, my parents have became more light hearted towards islam. That's a good thing, it's a step. Inshallah Allah (swt) will give me more sabr and inshallah they will accept the fact I am Muslim. I get a lot of support (also from you guys) which really helps. And I went to Junmaah for the first time ever yesterday. Although the preaching was in Turkish it was great to see so many people assembly, subhnallah!

Did I miss anything important?


See it as a good thing. He trusts you with said problem.

Wa Alaykum Salaam.

And I'm happy to see another revert.

You'll be right at home here brother. Not too many of us aren't reverts

[Herskerstad]

Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic, maybe if possible add Korean history which got snatched up in front of me last time.

[Nusaresa]

Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic.

Cognitive science specialization in fundamental concepts/philosophy o/

currently in undergrad tho

[Caliphate of the Netherlands]

Good question in regards to that, what are you all studying? Or at what stage are you studying? Or even what are you working with?

I am presently going through Japanese History, Chinese history and what's called Exam Faculitetum, but is basically the history of pedagogical philosophy. Will last until the end of the year, to which I hope to be studying law and mathematical logic, maybe if possible add Korean history which got snatched up in front of me last time.

I'm currently a IT student at a university of applied sciences. I study bussiness managment, software engineering and hardware maintanaince/robotica.

[Baltenstein]

Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it.

These things usually pass once they get to know the GF better. It's very important she makes a good impression though.

Other problems too.

Such as?

[United Territories and States]

Because she is White, because she is Shia or because she is a convert?

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.

[Jochizyd Republic]

He had no problem with both but some of his family had a problem with the Shi'ism.

"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.

Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.

[United Territories and States]

"Shi'ism"

That was the first mistake.

Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.

Perhaps.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Oh, not that extreme. Just uneasy about it.

These things usually pass once they get to know the GF better. It's very important she makes a good impression though.

Other problems too.

Such as?

Him Wanting Kids later on and her not being up for it.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Lol.

Shi'a other than the ones that have Iran are alright.

Basically Batiniyya are alright.

Perhaps.

But yeah. Normal Ithna'ashari/ Twelver Shi'ism is by and large pretty fundamentalist.

[Al Ashabiyah]

What do you all think of Ibadi Islam?