Islam/Muslim Discussion Thread ٢

[Jochizyd Republic]

What other side are Muslims not understanding. Other Muslims? Critics of Islam?

It was a critique of the critics of Islam. At least the ones who engage from a subject-object side or go all out with little discernment.

Well, that's kind of their fault.

[Herskerstad]

It was a critique of the critics of Islam. At least the ones who engage from a subject-object side or go all out with little discernment.

Well, that's kind of their fault.

Yes, they are in a large part not being nearly effective enough as a result.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Assalaamu Aleykum

What is everyones perspective here on Husayn and the plight of the Ahlu Bayt in General?

Personally, I think his dying for what was right and the persecution of the Ahlu Bayt is one of the largest tragedies in Islamic History. The Ahlu Bayt deserve to be honored by all Muslims. And the lessons they taught included in any legitimate Sunni Creed

http://www.alsunna.org/Sunni-Love-to-Ah ... #gsc.tab=0

May Allah bless the Sahaba and their teacher, descendants and followers.
Ameen.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Assalaamu Aleykum

What is everyones perspective here on Husayn and the plight of the Ahlu Bayt in General?

Personally, I think his dying for what was right and the persecution of the Ahlu Bayt is one of the largest tragedies in Islamic History. The Ahlu Bayt deserve to be honored by all Muslims. And the lessons they taught included in any legitimate Sunni Creed

http://www.alsunna.org/Sunni-Love-to-Ah ... #gsc.tab=0

May Allah bless the Sahaba and their teacher, descendants and followers.
Ameen.

Ameen.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Well, that's kind of their fault.

Yes, they are in a large part not being nearly effective enough as a result.

They're pretty effective for non Muslims. And arguably for fundamentalists.

[Behran]

Looks like Ghurba is back, except more Salafism and his toxic Takfiri ideology on this thread.

[Samudera Darussalam]

Assalaamu Aleykum

What is everyones perspective here on Husayn and the plight of the Ahlu Bayt in General?

Personally, I think his dying for what was right and the persecution of the Ahlu Bayt is one of the largest tragedies in Islamic History. The Ahlu Bayt deserve to be honored by all Muslims. And the lessons they taught included in any legitimate Sunni Creed

http://www.alsunna.org/Sunni-Love-to-Ah ... #gsc.tab=0

May Allah bless the Sahaba and their teacher, descendants and followers.
Ameen.

Ameen.
I have the same opinion with Joch.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Looks like Ghurba is back, except more Salafism and his toxic Takfiri ideology on this thread.

No he's not.

[Behran]

Looks like Ghurba is back, except more Salafism and his toxic Takfiri ideology on this thread.

No he's not.

He is back. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ghuraba_al-khorusani

[El-Amin Caliphate]

No he's not.

He is back. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ghuraba_al-khorusani

...

[Jochizyd Republic]

No he's not.

He is back. http://www.nationstates.net/nation=ghuraba_al-khorusani

Oh great.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

How I feel right now

[Behran]

How I feel right now

Why?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

How I feel right now

Why?

Because he's one of my best NS friends that's why.

[Dwarf Terrace-9 (Ancient)]

IntelligenceSquared has a decent debate on Islam. I was rather ignorant and open-minded whenever I first viewed it. Made me privy to quite a bit about both sides of the argument. I won't state my personal views or feelings, but instead I'll just leave the video for those interested.

As a note I thought at times the people debating were a bit disrespectful and unruly, but the host played devil's advocate well. A couple of useless idealistic questions (one in particular) and a "question" that turned out to just be biased rambling, but overall it's worth watching for anyone that's uninformed.

http://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/de ... gion-peace

EDIT:

In the debate a question is asked that isn't properly addressed. "Why does Islam have a disproportionate amount of radical extremists in comparison to all other major religions despite being a 'Religion of Peace'?" I'd like to hear opinions or clarification from both sides of the fence here. Personally I'm not religious nor atheist. Religion is just something that isn't a part of my life and I'm perfectly content.

As a side note my father once told me that if you look at all religions as a whole and take in the matters they agree with then therein lies a truth into how to treat other people in our time here on earth. Don't steal, don't kill, etc. I know not all religions agree with these terms, but the message he was trying to convey has served as a moral guideline in the absence of religion in my life.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

There was a fight a few minutes ago.

[San Lumen]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

[Implacable Death]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

Then you didn't see the research done in the UK.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

[Jochizyd Republic]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

>Sharia Law

Lol.

[Jochizyd Republic]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

Then you didn't see the research done in the UK.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

Britain's Muslim Community is awful.

Well...half awful considering the polls.

[Implacable Death]

Then you didn't see the research done in the UK.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey

Britain's Muslim Community is awful.

Well...half awful considering the polls.

What about Sweden's muslim community?

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

Every Muslim should support Shari'ah.
However, stoning is not Islamic, as far as I have researched. Probs just corrupt countries that misrepresent Al-Islam.

[Implacable Death]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

Every Muslim should support Shari'ah.
However, stoning is not Islamic, as far as I have researched. Probs just corrupt countries that misrepresent Al-Islam.

Oh, yes. They get it wrong. That's one I hear a lot. From what I heard, though, they're doing it right according to their prophet, if you read all the shit I've done.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I don't understand how people are calling these immigrant rapists 'Muslims'. Some might not even be Muslim and those that are have transgressed greatly.

[Jochizyd Republic]

I really appreciate this thread. How many muslims actually believe in Sharia law? Is it true that many of them don't accept homosexuality and believe in stonings and other harsh punishments for crimes or is that I only certain countries as i suspect?

Sharia is Islamic Morality, Ethics and Practice/Conduct

It can mean anything. It doesn't just mean draconian punishments Puritans do.

I believe homosexuality is a sin and harsh punishments are necessary for harsher crimes. But no, I don't think we should go out and try and stone/kill Gays, adulterers, apostates and whatever other things puritans don't like.