Latvia to ban Islamic veils

[Ohioan Territory]

So looking up the religion statistics in Latvia there are about 319 Muslims.

Wow such an impressive decision, and to Balkens "muh culture" argument then why not ban everything except the traditional clothing of Latvia?

Latvia doesn't need a reason. If the Latvian people want to ban burqas and niqabs, so be it. This is not an act of persecution.

[Draakonite]

So looking up the religion statistics in Latvia there are about 319 Muslims.

Wow such an impressive decision, and to Balkens "muh culture" argument then why not ban everything except the traditional clothing of Latvia?

In 2010, the Muslim population was 2000. And according to http://www.breibart.com/london/2015/10/ ... y-leaders/, Latvia will have a Muslim majority in 50 years!

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

[Kubumba Tribe]

In 2010, the Muslim population was 2000. And according to http://www.breibart.com/london/2015/10/ ... y-leaders/, Latvia will have a Muslim majority in 50 years!

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

Even if there are economical immigrants, which I highly disbelieve, they'd still be running from a life of war, crime and violence. Europe, America, Canada and other countries should let as much refugees in as the budget allows and as long as borders don't overflow.

[Kubumba Tribe]

In 2010, the Muslim population was 2000. And according to http://www.breibart.com/london/2015/10/ ... y-leaders/, Latvia will have a Muslim majority in 50 years!

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

Besides, y'know there's probably Latvians themselves converting too.

[Kubumba Tribe]

What are you talking about? Ski masks aren't religious whatsoever, so don't equate religious wear to non-religious wear.

Secularism. France was once pretty big on that.

What's that gotta do with what I said?

[Ohioan Territory]

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

Even if there are economical immigrants, which I highly disbelieve, they'd still be running from a life of war, crime and violence. Europe, America, Canada and other countries should let as much refugees in as the budget allows and as long as borders don't overflow.

Are you kidding? Look at Germany, Sweden, and France for God's sake. Letting in refugees from a war-torn, radical Islamist country is not a good idea (referring to Syria and Iraq).

[Kubumba Tribe]

Even if there are economical immigrants, which I highly disbelieve, they'd still be running from a life of war, crime and violence. Europe, America, Canada and other countries should let as much refugees in as the budget allows and as long as borders don't overflow.

Are you kidding? Look at Germany, Sweden, and France for God's sake. Letting in refugees from a war-torn, radical Islamist country is not a good idea (referring to Syria and Iraq).

Then what's your plan to help them out?

[Ohioan Territory]

Are you kidding? Look at Germany, Sweden, and France for God's sake. Letting in refugees from a war-torn, radical Islamist country is not a good idea (referring to Syria and Iraq).

Then what's your plan to help them out?

Why should it be my problem to help them out? Look who's already tried to help them out. I'm sure the families of the dead in France and Belgium are fed up with refugees, and I'm sure the families of those who've been raped by Syrian refugees in Sweden and Germany are fed up as well. The fact that German law has been changed so it won't be offense to refugees is absolutely ludicrous...

[Draakonite]

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

Even if there are economical immigrants, which I highly disbelieve, they'd still be running from a life of war, crime and violence. Europe, America, Canada and other countries should let as much refugees in as the budget allows and as long as borders don't overflow.

Before the refugee crisis, it was much worse, i mean in 2010 more than half of all asylum applicants were denied. Now its around 1/4.
And letting economical immigrants in is a sure way to dismantle social security... in the most terrible way possible.

(Or propably better because there were less applicants? It's complicated)

Latvia is too poor to attract any kind of new people. The reason all those economical immigrants hiding between asylum seekers are coming to germany/sweden is that we pay more social security than 300 zł a month...

Besides, y'know there's probably Latvians themselves converting too.

I don't think thats very popular, afterall even paganism is beating muslims in latvia right now.

Secularism. France was once pretty big on that.

What's that gotta do with what I said?

Going by secularism, you would never take any religion into account when making a law. So a all face-concelling cloth would be equal before the law.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Then what's your plan to help them out?

Why should it be my problem to help them out? Look who's already tried to help them out. I'm sure the families of the dead in France and Belgium are fed up with refugees, and I'm sure the families of those who've been raped by Syrian refugees in Sweden and Germany are fed up as well. The fact that German law has been changed so it won't be offense to refugees is absolutely ludicrous...

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

[Ohioan Territory]

Why should it be my problem to help them out? Look who's already tried to help them out. I'm sure the families of the dead in France and Belgium are fed up with refugees, and I'm sure the families of those who've been raped by Syrian refugees in Sweden and Germany are fed up as well. The fact that German law has been changed so it won't be offense to refugees is absolutely ludicrous...

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

They're from a place that's producing radical militants and terrorists at a dangerous, uneasy rate. The majority of the people coming out of Syria and Iraq have a poor sense of what freedom is, as well. That completely clashes with western beliefs and ideology. Call me stereotypical, I don't care.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Even if there are economical immigrants, which I highly disbelieve, they'd still be running from a life of war, crime and violence. Europe, America, Canada and other countries should let as much refugees in as the budget allows and as long as borders don't overflow.

Before the refugee crisis, it was much worse, i mean in 2010 more than half of all asylum applicants were denied. Now its around 1/4.
And letting economical immigrants in is a sure way to dismantle social security... in the most terrible way possible.

(Or propably better because there were less applicants? It's complicated)

Besides, y'know there's probably Latvians themselves converting too.

I don't think thats very popular, afterall even paganism is beating muslims in latvia right now.

What's that gotta do with what I said?

Going by secularism, you would never take any religion into account when making a law. So a all face-concelling cloth would be equal before the law.

1st: So immigration acceptance went up. It's still terrible though. 2nd: They are right now but not in 50 years. 3rd: I just told Xomniax 1 page ago or on a different forum not to be offensive and now you are? The 'all face-concealing cloth' has a name. If you weren't trying to be offensive, sorry for jumping to conclusions.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

They're from a place that's producing radical militants and terrorists at a dangerous, uneasy rate. The majority of the people coming out of Syria and Iraq have a poor sense of what freedom is, as well. That completely clashes with western beliefs and ideology. Call me stereotypical, I don't care.

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

[Ohioan Territory]

They're from a place that's producing radical militants and terrorists at a dangerous, uneasy rate. The majority of the people coming out of Syria and Iraq have a poor sense of what freedom is, as well. That completely clashes with western beliefs and ideology. Call me stereotypical, I don't care.

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

No. I won't.

[Draakonite]

Before the refugee crisis, it was much worse, i mean in 2010 more than half of all asylum applicants were denied. Now its around 1/4.
And letting economical immigrants in is a sure way to dismantle social security... in the most terrible way possible.

(Or propably better because there were less applicants? It's complicated)



I don't think thats very popular, afterall even paganism is beating muslims in latvia right now.



Going by secularism, you would never take any religion into account when making a law. So a all face-concelling cloth would be equal before the law.

1st: So immigration acceptance went up. It's still terrible though. 2nd: They are right now but not in 50 years. 3rd: I just told Xomniax 1 page ago or on a different forum not to be offensive and now you are? The 'all face-concealing cloth' has a name. If you weren't trying to be offensive, sorry for jumping to conclusions.

Not immigration. Asylum acceptance. Thats a difference.
Normaly, the only people claiming that muslims will outbreed christianity are people who visit sites like stormfront. Did something change in the recent years?
I used the same phrase a secular government would do.

[The Isolationist State Of Islam]

They're from a place that's producing radical militants and terrorists at a dangerous, uneasy rate. The majority of the people coming out of Syria and Iraq have a poor sense of what freedom is, as well. That completely clashes with western beliefs and ideology. Call me stereotypical, I don't care.

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

1st: So immigration acceptance went up. It's still terrible though. 2nd: They are right now but not in 50 years. 3rd: I just told Xomniax 1 page ago or on a different forum not to be offensive and now you are? The 'all face-concealing cloth' has a name. If you weren't trying to be offensive, sorry for jumping to conclusions.

Not immigration. Asylum acceptance. Thats a difference.
Normaly, the only people claiming that muslims will outbreed christianity are people who visit sites like stormfront. Did something change in the recent years?
I used the same phrase a secular government would do.

Although Muslims aren't outbreeding Christians, our child rate is higher. It's 3.1-3.2 kids per family, while Christians' is about 2.1 or something like that according to Pew Research.

[Ohioan Territory]

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

I'd give this a "like" if I could.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

You say that like all or most would do that.

[Utilitarian Garibaldi]

So you won't help your fellow Humans?

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

Source that most will do that?

[The Isolationist State Of Islam]

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

Source that most will do that?

Never said most, but enough do. Sweden, and Germany for example.

Not when it's been seen that when they come they will rape, and murder.

You say that like all or most would do that.

Most don't. Enough do however.

[Draakonite]

Not immigration. Asylum acceptance. Thats a difference.
Normaly, the only people claiming that muslims will outbreed christianity are people who visit sites like stormfront. Did something change in the recent years?
I used the same phrase a secular government would do.

Although Muslims aren't outbreeding Christians, our child rate is higher. It's 3.1-3.2 kids per family, while Christians' is about 2.1 or something like that according to Pew Research.

That's correct, but I dodn't see a reason to believe that islam will be a majority religion in any european country... except in albania and turkey, obviously. Looking at german statistics, between 1990 and 2013 the amount of people following islam has grown by 0,5%, a completely unimpressive number. I bet a statistic for latvia between 2000 and now is similar.

edit: At least in 50 years and without a world war, that is.
edit2: spelling

[South Shellfort]

So looking up the religion statistics in Latvia there are about 319 Muslims.

Wow such an impressive decision, and to Balkens "muh culture" argument then why not ban everything except the traditional clothing of Latvia?

In 2010, the Muslim population was 2000. And according to http://www.breibart.com/london/2015/10/ ... y-leaders/, Latvia will have a Muslim majority in 50 years!

Things always becoming worse.
But that sounds impossible.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Source that most will do that?

Never said most, but enough do. Sweden, and Germany for example.

You say that like all or most would do that.

Most don't. Enough do however.

And what's enough to you?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Although Muslims aren't outbreeding Christians, our child rate is higher. It's 3.1-3.2 kids per family, while Christians' is about 2.1 or something like that according to Pew Research.

That's correct, but I dodn't see a reason to believe that islam will be a majority religion in any european country... except in albania and turkey, obviously. Looking at german statistics, between 1990 and 2013 the amount of people following islam has grown by 0,5%, a completely unimpressive number. I bet a statistics for latvia between 2000 and now is similar.

edit: At least in 50 years and without a world war, that is.
edit2: spelling

True.