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Postby Valaran » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:47 am

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WTF is a St James Bible

You mean the Book of St James?


You know what I mean. I mixed up the title of King for St.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:51 am

Herargon wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:But it's still the same God we all worship. I say God a lot of times too. i also say Allah. We all worship the same God and believe in the Day of Judgment. We just practice and interpret differently.


No, we do not worship the same God. It is a different one. Nothing is wrong with that.
If we really worshipped the same God, yet interpreted it differently, then we would have a less different mindset. Christians are Christians because they mainly base their ideas off the teachings of Jesus Christ, while Muslims mainly base it upon Muhammad's teachings, whilst Jews base their own upon Abraham's ideas. Although they do all refer to Abraham, the differences are so large that they aren't just different denominations of one 'World Monotheism', but three different religions.

I know that, but we still worship God. My God is your God. Think about it. Christian, Muslims and Jews say and worship the same God. But Christians believe Allah has a son, we Muslims believe Muhammad is our last prophet, and Jews believe a Messiah. But we all believe in God
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:51 am

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South Shellfort wrote:Veils can be used to hide the identity of terrorists.


As shown in Paris and Belgium.

And to show faith and worshiping Allah (SWT).
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Gothmogs » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:54 am

Latvian culture has been pretty well preserved I'd say. As much as I love the country, this ban is pointless, and just as bad as forcing everyone to wear something.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:54 am

Gauthier wrote:
South Shellfort wrote:Veils can be used to hide the identity of terrorists.


As shown in Paris and Belgium.


Worked just fine in Britian

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -veil.html
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:03 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
As shown in Paris and Belgium.


Worked just fine in Britian

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -veil.html


So a veil was used by a murderer to flee the country, in stark contrast to rationales for bans that they would hide suicide attackers and bombers like ninja masters until it's too late.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:08 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Worked just fine in Britian

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -veil.html


So a veil was used by a murderer to flee the country, in stark contrast to rationales for bans that they would hide suicide attackers and bombers like ninja masters until it's too late.


They hide the identity of people. And that can be used to escape arrest and evade legitimate surveillance
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:10 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
So a veil was used by a murderer to flee the country, in stark contrast to rationales for bans that they would hide suicide attackers and bombers like ninja masters until it's too late.


They hide the identity of people. And that can be used to escape arrest and evade legitimate surveillance


And of course one instance of airport security fucking up on facial exams is proof that veils are dangerous. It's amazing there was even a mugshot in the first place!
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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
So a veil was used by a murderer to flee the country, in stark contrast to rationales for bans that they would hide suicide attackers and bombers like ninja masters until it's too late.


They hide the identity of people. And that can be used to escape arrest and evade legitimate surveillance

True, but it seems a bit weak of an argument as long as we aren't faced with a wave of criminals using hijab components to flee justice.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:12 am

Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
They hide the identity of people. And that can be used to escape arrest and evade legitimate surveillance

True, but it seems a bit weak of an argument as long as we aren't faced with a wave of criminals using hijab components to flee justice.


Hijabs are ninja tools. There could be another Paris-scale attack and authorities will overlook the hijab-wearing crowd heading to the departure line.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:20 am

Gauthier wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:True, but it seems a bit weak of an argument as long as we aren't faced with a wave of criminals using hijab components to flee justice.


Hijabs are ninja tools. There could be another Paris-scale attack and authorities will overlook the hijab-wearing crowd heading to the departure line.


Authorities will be too busy overlooking the real attackers to worry about 'em.



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Postby Galactic Assembly of Free Planets » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:22 am

Gauthier wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:True, but it seems a bit weak of an argument as long as we aren't faced with a wave of criminals using hijab components to flee justice.


Hijabs are ninja tools. There could be another Paris-scale attack and authorities will overlook the hijab-wearing crowd heading to the departure line.

I thought ninjas were farmers with spears who assassinated people and ran into crowds. Must have been bad ninjas if the hijab is so important to ninja success.
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Gauthier wrote:
Hijabs are ninja tools. There could be another Paris-scale attack and authorities will overlook the hijab-wearing crowd heading to the departure line.


Authorities will be too busy overlooking the real attackers to worry about 'em.

I don't understand the boundless stupidity these authorities have.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:24 am

Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Hijabs are ninja tools. There could be another Paris-scale attack and authorities will overlook the hijab-wearing crowd heading to the departure line.

I thought ninjas were farmers with spears who assassinated people and ran into crowds. Must have been bad ninjas if the hijab is so important to ninja success.


They're exactly like the invisibility cloak from Erik the Viking, except every European is King Arnulf.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:33 am

Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:I don't understand the boundless stupidity these authorities have.


I'm sure even the terrorists themselves don't. The news of the red flags being ignored in both Paris and Brussels must've invigorated them.



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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:33 am

Gauthier wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:I thought ninjas were farmers with spears who assassinated people and ran into crowds. Must have been bad ninjas if the hijab is so important to ninja success.


They're exactly like the invisibility cloak from Erik the Viking, except every European is King Arnulf.

Don't make fun please.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Gothmogs » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:40 am

Gauthier wrote:
Galactic Assembly of Free Planets wrote:I thought ninjas were farmers with spears who assassinated people and ran into crowds. Must have been bad ninjas if the hijab is so important to ninja success.


They're exactly like the invisibility cloak from Erik the Viking, except every European is King Arnulf.

I didn't know other people actually watched that movie.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:49 am

Halvatia wrote:*Claps for Latvia*

Keep up the good work Latvia, at least you are aware of the Muslim invasion of Europe. Do what you can to protect your people and your culture.


So aware of it that they still have full, open relations with the original Islamic State: Saudi Arabia. But, yeah, let's applaud 'em.

Jetan wrote:I don't see a problem here, religion should have no place in public life anyway. Latvia should be consistent on this and ban other religious trappings in public spaces aswell.


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Postby Vistulange » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:09 am

But when we in Turkey had it...

"OMG TURKS SO REPRESSIVE AMAGERD GET DEMOCRATIC NOOBS" was what the entire West was crying.

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Postby Chestaan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:22 am

Vistulange wrote:But when we in Turkey had it...

"OMG TURKS SO REPRESSIVE AMAGERD GET DEMOCRATIC NOOBS" was what the entire West was crying.


I'm pretty sure most who think's it's bullshit in Turkey also think it's bullshit in Latvia.
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Postby Vistulange » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:24 am

Chestaan wrote:
Vistulange wrote:But when we in Turkey had it...

"OMG TURKS SO REPRESSIVE AMAGERD GET DEMOCRATIC NOOBS" was what the entire West was crying.


I'm pretty sure most who think's it's bullshit in Turkey also think it's bullshit in Latvia.


Yes, sure.

Me, I'm not too sure it was bullshit in Turkey. We let them have what they want, and here we are today. Granted, the Islamists in Turkey used religion as a tool to further their political interests. I doubt Muslims in Europe can ever realistically accomplish that.

However, in the event of them trying to exert political pressure via religion, they must be crushed with the most brutal and fear-inspiring methods possible, beaten down so viciously that they will fear to look up at the Sun for fear of another iron rod smashing into their faces for a thousand years. Islamists deserve nothing better.

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Postby Chestaan » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:27 am

Vistulange wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
I'm pretty sure most who think's it's bullshit in Turkey also think it's bullshit in Latvia.


Yes, sure.

Me, I'm not too sure it was bullshit in Turkey. We let them have what they want, and here we are today. Granted, the Islamists in Turkey used religion as a tool to further their political interests. I doubt Muslims in Europe can ever realistically accomplish that.

However, in the event of them trying to exert political pressure via religion, they must be crushed with the most brutal and fear-inspiring methods possible, beaten down so viciously that they will fear to look up at the Sun for fear of another iron rod smashing into their faces for a thousand years. Islamists deserve nothing better.


I'm not so sure what your point is here. Are you saying that allowing the burqa/niqab in Turkey has led to Islamists gaining power?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:37 am

Vistulange wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
I'm pretty sure most who think's it's bullshit in Turkey also think it's bullshit in Latvia.


Yes, sure.

Me, I'm not too sure it was bullshit in Turkey. We let them have what they want, and here we are today. Granted, the Islamists in Turkey used religion as a tool to further their political interests. I doubt Muslims in Europe can ever realistically accomplish that.

However, in the event of them trying to exert political pressure via religion, they must be crushed with the most brutal and fear-inspiring methods possible, beaten down so viciously that they will fear to look up at the Sun for fear of another iron rod smashing into their faces for a thousand years. Islamists deserve nothing better.

And you call ISIS terrorists and you're not?
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Teemant » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:41 am

Gothmogs wrote:Latvian culture has been pretty well preserved I'd say. As much as I love the country, this ban is pointless, and just as bad as forcing everyone to wear something.


Latvians were almost a minority in their country 30 years ago. Currently they make 60% of Latvian population so there is a reason why they might be more protective about their culture than people in Western Europe. If people in Latvia think that current measures are necessary then it is up to them. It's their country.
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Postby Benxboro » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:45 am

Teemant wrote:
Gothmogs wrote:Latvian culture has been pretty well preserved I'd say. As much as I love the country, this ban is pointless, and just as bad as forcing everyone to wear something.


Latvians were almost a minority in their country 30 years ago. Currently they make 60% of Latvian population so there is a reason why they might be more protective about their culture than people in Western Europe. If people in Latvia think that current measures are necessary then it is up to them. It's their country.

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Postby South Shellfort » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:47 am

Teemant wrote:
Gothmogs wrote:Latvian culture has been pretty well preserved I'd say. As much as I love the country, this ban is pointless, and just as bad as forcing everyone to wear something.


Latvians were almost a minority in their country 30 years ago. Currently they make 60% of Latvian population so there is a reason why they might be more protective about their culture than people in Western Europe. If people in Latvia think that current measures are necessary then it is up to them. It's their country.


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