[US Election 2016] Democratic Primary Megathread III

[Maurepas]

To me, that sounds like you'd rather be able to pat yourself on the back for your purity than actually help to substantially improve the lot of millions, if not billions (remember that the US President has great global influence) of people.

Improve how? in what way?

With clintons flick of her wrist, the world will suddenly be better?

With a flick of Trump's it can get a whole lot worse, he'll have the pen and he'll have the phone. And I suppose many liberals are just okay with that for the hollow satisfaction of feeling ideologically pure.

[Eol Sha]

Improve how? in what way?

With clintons flick of her wrist, the world will suddenly be better?

With a flick of Trump's it can get a whole lot worse, he'll have the pen and he'll have the phone. And I suppose many liberals are just okay with that for the hollow satisfaction of feeling ideologically pure.

More like a few.

[The Romulan Republic]

Those who are even close to historically literate on the period, yes.

And they want to judge us by that?

Man, they must hate us for what we did to the Japanese.

This may shock you, but a lot of people do think that the internment of Japanese people in WWII was morally wrong and a stain on American history.

Given your evident indifference to the rights of minorities, I'm starting to wonder if the reason you won't back Clinton is actually that you'd be fine with having Trump's bigotry in the White House.

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

I don't have a obligation to take you.

I'd rather have a billion refugees than a alt-righter.

>me
>alt-right

Your may may arrows, crusader meme avatar, and previous posts make you look like one. Go back to /pol/

[Maurepas]

With a flick of Trump's it can get a whole lot worse, he'll have the pen and he'll have the phone. And I suppose many liberals are just okay with that for the hollow satisfaction of feeling ideologically pure.

More like a few.

Heh Heh, I certainly hope so, "many" in this statement meaning more than two or three,

[Astrolinium]

Yes, but I trust her infinitely more with our country's nuclear codes.

And I say it like that because it is. All science points to massive climate change on an unprecedented scale, and the window to curtail its effects is closing fast. If we do not take drastic measures within the next couple of election cycles, we're never going to be able to adjust to the changed climate as a society without bloodshed: as many as 100 million people could find their homes underwater by 2100. Where are they going to go, exactly? You think we have a refugee crisis now?

such as?

Move over to clean energy, put regulations in place to reduce and restrict the use of non-biodegradable materials, put money into research on sustainable living, phase out gasoline and diesel vehicles in favor of electric, promote cheap home solar panels and green roofs, and put pressure on other countries to do the same, for starters.

[The balkens]

And they want to judge us by that?

Man, they must hate us for what we did to the Japanese.

This may shock you, but a lot of people do think that the internment of Japanese people in WWII was morally wrong and a stain on American history.

Given your evident indifference to the rights of minorities, I'm starting to wonder if the reason you won't back Clinton is actually that you'd be fine with having Trump's bigotry in the White House.

Do you have any evidence of me being indifferent towards minorities?

[The balkens]

such as?

Move over to clean energy, put regulations in place to reduce and restrict the use of non-biodegradable materials, put money into research on sustainable living, phase out gasoline and diesel vehicles in favor of electric, promote cheap home solar panels and green roofs, and put pressure on other countries to do the same, for starters.

Reasonable baring the bolded, i feel that this is impossible.

[Corrian]

HE was probably being overly dramatic, but people are going to die under Trump.

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

[Astrolinium]

Move over to clean energy, put regulations in place to reduce and restrict the use of non-biodegradable materials, put money into research on sustainable living, phase out gasoline and diesel vehicles in favor of electric, promote cheap home solar panels and green roofs, and put pressure on other countries to do the same, for starters.

Reasonable baring the bolded, i feel that this is impossible.

Why? We're currently making great strides in electric vehicles even in spite of oil companies; at this point, gasoline has no serious advantages, and electric actually has the advantage in acceleration. Many cities are already even putting in charging stations for them -- I feel it's a change that is coming on its own, but would come faster if there were government incentives for it.

[The balkens]

HE was probably being overly dramatic, but people are going to die under Trump.

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

You see, but shes a woman, there for its not her fault!

/s

[Astrolinium]

HE was probably being overly dramatic, but people are going to die under Trump.

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

[Geilinor]

HE was probably being overly dramatic, but people are going to die under Trump.

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

They would have under Bernie Sanders as well considering that he would still be using drones. Clinton and Trump do not have the same foreign policies - as president, Trump will have to do what Republicans want him to. Republicans will be populating his administration.

[The balkens]

Reasonable baring the bolded, i feel that this is impossible.

Why? We're currently making great strides in electric vehicles even in spite of oil companies; at this point, gasoline has no serious advantages, and electric actually has the advantage in acceleration. Many cities are already even putting in charging stations for them -- I feel it's a change that is coming on its own, but would come faster if there were government incentives for it.

The Military for one, i have yet to find a good alternative to turbines powering our shit.

And considering i have yet to hear clintons opinions on the state of the Military, ill hold my thoughts on it.

[The balkens]

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

[Maurepas]

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

They would have under Bernie Sanders as well considering that he would still be using drones. Clinton and Trump do not have the same foreign policies - as president, Trump will have to do what Republicans want him to. Republicans will be populating his administration.

I'm starting to wonder if anyone actually watched the debate that was specifically about Foreign Policy. Bernie and Clinton's foreign policy was very similar, and both of them would've continued Obama's policies. And all three of them are infinitely superior to Donald Trump's.

[Geilinor]

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

Obamacare was never meant to be an end-all-be-all.

[Corrian]

Yeah, and people are going to die under Clinton as well.

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

While presumably blowing the shit out of the middle east.

[Astrolinium]

Why? We're currently making great strides in electric vehicles even in spite of oil companies; at this point, gasoline has no serious advantages, and electric actually has the advantage in acceleration. Many cities are already even putting in charging stations for them -- I feel it's a change that is coming on its own, but would come faster if there were government incentives for it.

The Military for one, i have yet to find a good alternative to turbines powering our shit.

And considering i have yet to hear clintons opinions on the state of the Military, ill hold my thoughts on it.

I'm mostly talking about civilian automobiles -- cars and trucks. We have a big military, but I suspect it's still only utilizing a very small proportion of the gasoline and diesel vehicles we have on the road.

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

No, because it was never supposed to be, and because the GOP was horribly obstructionist when it was in Congress.

[The balkens]

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

Obamacare was never meant to be an end-all-be-all.

It was more of a lazy band-aid then anything.

[Geilinor]

A lot more people are going to die under Trump, and Clinton might actually do something about the awful state of healthcare or climate change.

While presumably blowing the shit out of the middle east.

She's not going to blow the shit out of the Middle East.

[The Romulan Republic]

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

Obamacare was never meant to be an end-all-be-all.

Obamacare was a compromise that it seems hardly anyone really liked.

I don't doubt the issue will continue to be revisited.

[The balkens]

The Military for one, i have yet to find a good alternative to turbines powering our shit.

And considering i have yet to hear clintons opinions on the state of the Military, ill hold my thoughts on it.

I'm mostly talking about civilian automobiles -- cars and trucks. We have a big military, but I suspect it's still only utilizing a very small proportion of the gasoline and diesel vehicles we have on the road.

You mean Obamacare is not the end all be all that was promised?

No, because it was never supposed to be, and because the GOP was horribly obstructionist when it was in Congress.

Heres hoping that it stays that way.

[Occupied Deutschland]

They would have under Bernie Sanders as well considering that he would still be using drones. Clinton and Trump do not have the same foreign policies - as president, Trump will have to do what Republicans want him to. Republicans will be populating his administration.

I'm starting to wonder if anyone actually watched the debate that was specifically about Foreign Policy. Bernie and Clinton's foreign policy was very similar, and both of them would've continued Obama's policies. And all three of them are infinitely superior to Donald Trump's.

I mean, Bernie was rather more esoteric and hands-off.
Clinton and Trump's foreign policies are literally the same thing. Except Trump rhetorically jabberjaws about the ebul ISIS he's going to kill more of while Clinton just has that as an unspoken given because it would be too dreadfully embarrassing for her to say it and out her and Obama's foreign policy as 'Republican's foreign policy, but with slightly less rhetoric about destroying our enemies'.

[Corrian]

She's not going to blow the shit out of the Middle East.

Like I exactly believe that.

But to be fair, Sanders was going to continue drone policies, too, so he's not exactly great in that regard either.